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Fender MIA - Worth it?

The Fender Roadworn basses are an exceptional value. My biggest problem is, I don’t play 4 strings anymore. If I only played 4 strings I would probably stick with the roadworn series.

Nowadays I primarily play five strings. I’ve owned an American professional precision bass, And it was a fantastic instrument. I’ve owned several fender American elite five string basses and my current one is an absolutely stellar instrument.

In my opinion, the Pros are:

1). Both the American Professional and Elite series have better feeling and playing necks. Fretwork is also better

2). The finishes also seem to be of higher quality although the American Performer series has great finishes as well

3). I can usually find lighter weight basses in the US line

Here are the cons:

1). If it has a preamp, you’re better off swapping it out. I’ve never been happy with the preamps on the American basses, and I recently swapped out mine with the Sadowsky pre and it sounds 10 times better.

2). May be a good idea to also swap out the pickups. I’ve found more than one American elite model in a music store that didn’t have functioning pickups. I’ve also talked to a few people here on TalkBass whose pickups ended up malfunctioning. One guy told me that when he pulled the pick ups out to test them, some of the wires that wrapped around the magnet were falling off. These facts don’t exactly endear me of Fender’s quality assurance standards.

In conclusion, if you just want to play a passive 4 string bass I would suggest sticking with the Roadworn series or American Professional.

If you want the five string or active models, be prepared to invest in electronics upgrades. But having said that, my fender is an amazing instrument that I love playing.
 
I think that's the point. I'd only be doing it for the sake of it. Maybe I've answered my own question.

That, or I'll wait for a used one at the right price. Let someone else take the bath on the resale.

I certainly went the used route. MIA is popular. So if you find a good one and take care of it. Resale is about the same as what you pay for it ... assuming you buy it right on the used market. Maybe you are out strings and a set up. Cheap rental IMO. Sometime u get lucky and the value rises. But I wouldn’t count on it.
 
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Hey all,

I have got a nice array of Fender basses (I've also got a Yamaha BB735A, but that's not part of this conversation). The basses are;

1998 MIM Standard Jazz bass - modded the crap out of it, deleted the neck PU, bridge PU is now a MM, with an aguilar OBP-2, it's effectively a Flea Jazz but with boost and cut.
2007 CIJ Mustang Bass with comp stripes.
2014 MIJ PB57 with USA pickups.
2017 MIM RW Jazz.

Love all the basses, they all do exactly what I want them to. But.... part of me wants to add a MIA to the collection, and I have gas for either a Am. Performer PJ or Mustang. I don't have a PJ in my collection , and I like to try to only have one "type" of each bass, no double-ups. So, a PJ would fit nicely.

My question is, is a MIA bass really worth the extra $$? The MIM RW is frickin amazing, and I've played both MIA AP's (P and Mustang) in store. I like them, They feel nice in the hands, and have a very consistent and considered tone. Not sure I dig the greasebucket tone, but that can be removed relatively easily. To me, the MIM RW and MIA AP feel of a similar quality. So, is it worth the extra money for the Mexicans to assemble it in Corona, rather than in Ensenada?

Thanks, Ciaran
Yes.
 
I forgot to echo what many others are saying in that the elite-level MIM instruments (Classic Series, Roadworn, the new Vintera series, etc.) are often every bit as good as the American Standard or Professional instruments and generally cost a few hundred dollars less. For the budget-minded musician, those axes occupy a bit of a sweet spot. My bet is that Fender sells a whole bunch of instruments in that category.
 
I had an American Standard Jazz I purchased new in 1998 that I had to sell several years ago do to financial issues.

Was worth every penny back then amazing fit and finish, fabulous tone. Have not played any of the current American Professionals but if they are anything like that 98 standard. Yes, worth the price IMO.

I do have a AVRI 64 Jazz that I spoon at nights...
 
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I've had a Korean Jazz 24, a MIM P, and another active Jazz from Japan or Korea.
The MIM was the least expensive and worst sounding. It had a gawd awful snake skin vinyl wrap over the entire body. It was hideous and so, I had to have it.
It sounding like someone was amplifying snapping fingers in a mud puddle.
So that brings me to my current bass, an early 2000's American Vintage Reissue of the stacked pots 1962 Jazz.
I can't put it down. The attention to detail and craftsmanship is amazing. It feels, looks and most importantly sounds like a bass should. I will more than likely not buy a non American made Fender again. I am so proud in ownership. Because I for once got what I paid for, and then some.
So yes, an MIA is worth it. In my opinion.
But I am biased, I am the schwag wearing musician. I have Fender emblazoned on multiple articles of clothing. I stopped short of the underwear, but socks are fair game.
Make
It
Awesome. (Don't hit me)
 
IMO, you're talking about the difference between a good bass (MIM) that compares well with competitors in its price class, and a bass that has more attention to detail, better hardware, and IMO a better, fuller sound (the MIA). I have a couple of MIA Ps - an American Special and American Standard, and an American Standard Jazz. From my experience, they are simply superior instruments if you can swing the extra bucks. Once again, I think the Mexican Fenders are really solid instruments, but the American made offer a range of improvements on the Mexican made ones. I will say (not having been in the market for a new Fender in several years) that I just scoped out the prices on the new Vintera series which look nice. But, wow, they are really only a couple hundred bucks less than the entry level American instruments. It seems to me that the price increases in both the Mexican and American instruments have occurred at somewhat different paces with the Mexican instruments a steeper curve.
 
It is less than desirable to judge Fender basses solely based upon country of origin … far too many models, eras, versions of models, etc … and as far as 'justifying' the extra expense of a MIA Fender … I just sold two MIA Fender J's for under $350 each in very good condition … not much justification there …

JMHO … as always ...
 
May I ask why you got so little?

… absolutely … both were early Hwy 1's, and when I decide to move something along I move something along … very few people understand the confusing Hwy series basses and components used, era's, etc … I have had several, and they are good basses, but to see them for sale with people asking $6-700 is nutz … they are a good $450- 500 bass, and there is probably no bigger proponent of them than I am, but I also realize there value if you want to move them without dinking around … both were sold without any haggling, shipping, PayPal fees, etc ... both sold without cases as well, or that would have added another $50-75 depending on style ...
 
Hey all,

I have got a nice array of Fender basses (I've also got a Yamaha BB735A, but that's not part of this conversation). The basses are;

1998 MIM Standard Jazz bass - modded the crap out of it, deleted the neck PU, bridge PU is now a MM, with an aguilar OBP-2, it's effectively a Flea Jazz but with boost and cut.
2007 CIJ Mustang Bass with comp stripes.
2014 MIJ PB57 with USA pickups.
2017 MIM RW Jazz.

Love all the basses, they all do exactly what I want them to. But.... part of me wants to add a MIA to the collection, and I have gas for either a Am. Performer PJ or Mustang. I don't have a PJ in my collection , and I like to try to only have one "type" of each bass, no double-ups. So, a PJ would fit nicely.

My question is, is a MIA bass really worth the extra $$? The MIM RW is frickin amazing, and I've played both MIA AP's (P and Mustang) in store. I like them, They feel nice in the hands, and have a very consistent and considered tone. Not sure I dig the greasebucket tone, but that can be removed relatively easily. To me, the MIM RW and MIA AP feel of a similar quality. So, is it worth the extra money for the Mexicans to assemble it in Corona, rather than in Ensenada?

Thanks, Ciaran
Love my 99 MIA Precision
Love my 2009 Indo Squier
 
Sold my MIA P bass because the MIM P bass played and sounded better after I put in my choice of PU's. If you got the money and want to spend it because for you "it's all about your image", go right ahead. I think that if you find a MIA you really like, get it. If you find a MIM you really like get it, and save some money. Whichever you find you like, get it and don't worry about where it's made.
 
Your money - your honey.
Not for me. I will never pay extra price, because of some sticker.
Tried few. But, could not find the way to justify the price.
MIJ, under $1k is max I will pay for any Fender instrument.
 
Hey all,

I have got a nice array of Fender basses (I've also got a Yamaha BB735A, but that's not part of this conversation). The basses are;

1998 MIM Standard Jazz bass - modded the crap out of it, deleted the neck PU, bridge PU is now a MM, with an aguilar OBP-2, it's effectively a Flea Jazz but with boost and cut.
2007 CIJ Mustang Bass with comp stripes.
2014 MIJ PB57 with USA pickups.
2017 MIM RW Jazz.

Love all the basses, they all do exactly what I want them to. But.... part of me wants to add a MIA to the collection, and I have gas for either a Am. Performer PJ or Mustang. I don't have a PJ in my collection , and I like to try to only have one "type" of each bass, no double-ups. So, a PJ would fit nicely.

My question is, is a MIA bass really worth the extra $$? The MIM RW is frickin amazing, and I've played both MIA AP's (P and Mustang) in store. I like them, They feel nice in the hands, and have a very consistent and considered tone. Not sure I dig the greasebucket tone, but that can be removed relatively easily. To me, the MIM RW and MIA AP feel of a similar quality. So, is it worth the extra money for the Mexicans to assemble it in Corona, rather than in Ensenada?

Thanks, Ciaran
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