Jim Carr
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Fender MIM road worn 60' J bass
- Thread starter SanDiegoHarry
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Sorry Jim, certainly didn't intend to offend anyone.
Just meant that I don't get the road worn concept...but maybe that's because I'm stupid.
Just meant that I don't get the road worn concept...but maybe that's because I'm stupid.
Jim Carr
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No. You are not.
This is just about a style of finish. If you like LPB, you are not stupid, right?
This is just about a style of finish. If you like LPB, you are not stupid, right?
Can't they wear them uniquely? I mean, there are certain areas that you want the same type of wear, but each one doesn't have to be exactly the same. It kind-of defeats the purpose, no?
I used to think that relics were a waste of time and why would anyone want to do that, but I think they've grown on me a little. One of the guitarists in my band picked up a relic'd Tele knock-off and I have to admit, it looked really good. It sounded good too.
I used to think that relics were a waste of time and why would anyone want to do that, but I think they've grown on me a little. One of the guitarists in my band picked up a relic'd Tele knock-off and I have to admit, it looked really good. It sounded good too.
You mean "stoopid" like the rap artists mean it, right?
As in "Let's get STOOPID y'all!"
Cause that's a GOOD thing!
What I was trying to say (and utterly failed to convey) is that paying more for the road worn thing is...uh...a head scratcher for me.
But you know what, I'm going to stop explaining this now, because when your foot's already in your mouth you're bound to mumble!
Peace all.
As in "Let's get STOOPID y'all!"
Cause that's a GOOD thing!
What I was trying to say (and utterly failed to convey) is that paying more for the road worn thing is...uh...a head scratcher for me.
But you know what, I'm going to stop explaining this now, because when your foot's already in your mouth you're bound to mumble!
Peace all.
I think it's a bit more than "style of finish" - It reminds me of buying pre-faded or ripped jeans, when that was in fashion... I didn't much care for that either, nor did I stress much about it when folks DID buy it - - it just struck me as a waste of money.
I figure that if someone is going to wear out my axe, it best be me or the players who had it before me - not some machine. I guess it just *bugs* me... Especially for $1200+ ! ! !
screw those basses i wouldnt pay that a MIM p bass is 620 now tho so the price is not too unreasonable just the fact they all look exactly the same
i would get a highway 1 with niro finish and have it reliced
but.....i dont like relics just ^ thats a better idea it plays better its MIA which is better resale andit could have a unique relic job
i prefer to not have purposely beat up guitars
u can get like a 1978-79 p or j bass for around 2000$ with natural wear
i would get a highway 1 with niro finish and have it reliced
but.....i dont like relics just ^ thats a better idea it plays better its MIA which is better resale andit could have a unique relic job
i prefer to not have purposely beat up guitars
u can get like a 1978-79 p or j bass for around 2000$ with natural wear
Jim Carr
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Your opinion of pre-faded jeans not withstanding, relic finishes ARE just a style of finish. It is not as if such instruments inherently need a refret, new pots, or have dead pickups. I have had all of those and more with old Fenders.
Sheesh, guys--some manufactured dings and scuffs, and the geezers go ballistic. Who-da thunk it? It amazes me still.
But oh, right. "It ain't real." Can't you find something else that is ACTUALLY dishonest to care about? This is trivial stuff--a finish on a relatively cheap bass. No one is pretending these instruments are vintage basses. Get it? Nearly every single thread in the last year touching on this topic has ended up being about how relic finishes are some how evil.
Get over it. Grow up. People have different tastes and guess what---bad news---here it is---wait for it----
Things change. Hate it all you want.
Yes, Fender does know, and their corporate strategy is to bump up prices sharply, either because their costs have increased (I doubt they increased that much), or to maximize cash flow right now. And that whole GC markdown BS is also built into their strategy - snag the ones w/GAS at first & have them pay huge margins, then bring down prices over time to capture the rest of the market.
Your opinion of pre-faded jeans not withstanding, relic finishes ARE just a style of finish. It is not as if such instruments inherently need a refret, new pots, or have dead pickups. I have had all of those and more with old Fenders.
Sheesh, guys--some manufactured dings and scuffs, and the geezers go ballistic. Who-da thunk it? It amazes me still.
But oh, right. "It ain't real." Can't you find something else that is ACTUALLY dishonest to care about? This is trivial stuff--a finish on a relatively cheap bass. No one is pretending these instruments are vintage basses. Get it? Nearly every single thread in the last year touching on this topic has ended up being about how relic finishes are some how evil.
Get over it. Grow up. People have different tastes and guess what---bad news---here it is---wait for it----
Things change. Hate it all you want.
Ah... So that I have an opinion about what *I* like that does not coincide with what *you* like means that I need to "Grow up". Hmmm.
Sorry if your bothered that I don't agree with you. I didn't realize that my opinions were that important...
Ah... So that I have an opinion about what *I* like that does not coincide with what *you* like means that I need to "Grow up". Hmmm.
Sorry if your bothered that I don't agree with you. I didn't realize that my opinions were that important...
No. What it means is that people need to get over the butt hurt and either suck it up and pay it or not.
The incessant whining about it is childish.
+1
BTW, the Roadworns are not actually all identical--similar, yes, identical, NOT! Jeez--just look at a couple.
I have seen them and, according to the Fender Rep who happened to be in the store when I saw the Strats, the wear is done using templates...and they look it.
I'm sure over time each one will age according the use/abuse it receives from its series of owners but when new, on the wall in the store, a bunch of them hanging next to each other look like some sort of bizarre relic parade review.
Jim Carr
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Ah... So that I have an opinion about what *I* like that does not coincide with what *you* like means that I need to "Grow up". Hmmm.
Sorry if your bothered that I don't agree with you. I didn't realize that my opinions were that important...
Harry--
I'm not bothered by your opinions. I get that you don't like artificial relics. That's fine. I respect that.
"Grow up" referred to the childish implication by most posters on this topic that a road worn or relic finish is anything more OR anything less than a paint job. It is just a paint job. Ugly or beautiful, template or not, it is just a finish.
I hope no one thinks these basses are trying to be vintage basses, or that they are being passed off for having been played for 40 years. It's just a look, like a tat, a jacket, a nose ring, hair, etc. Fashion.
Everyone should calm down and quick acting like there is some sort of fraud being perpetrated. For that, we have Ebay. These are just MIM Fenders for heavens sake. Relax.
They are not taking our jobs, our manhood, or our (self) righteous worn/vintage bass mojo. These fender road worn finishes are commercial products for kids or for those who enjoy them. Nobody is getting hurt, lied to, or fooled.
BTW, most people still buy pre-washed, pre-shrunk, and pre-faded jeans, at least in the US.
Well, I don't have any artificially reliced instruments, however, I wouldn't be that critical of people who do. There is really no need to insult people who have purchased these basses, which is essentially what you are doing.
If they had a Road Worn 5'er, maybe I'd consider. But I can't see paying over a grand for a bass that's not American made, plain and simple.
But I can't see paying over a grand for a bass that's not American made, plain and simple.
$1,200.00? Luxury!!! US$1,200.00 is equal to AU$1,868.00 according to the current exchange rate for the Australian dollar...
Today at lunchtime I took a fretless Stingray I bought of a fellow US-TB'er to my local guitar store to be set up. While the tech was playing with the SR, one of the guys proudly showed me a newly arrived MIM Roadworn Jazz bass. It looked and felt amazing, but I was shocked at the price...
AU$3,000.00, which is US$1,927... how does that price grab ya?
Pretty neat but too expensive. I have reliced my own instruments through showtime but would be down to buy a fiesta red one... but too much money for a MIM bass. It's just not going to hold value like the MIAs in the long run I don't think.
I have not seen the basses but did play some road worn guitars a week back and they had a nice level of quality to the finish for sure.
I have not seen the basses but did play some road worn guitars a week back and they had a nice level of quality to the finish for sure.
