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Fender Mustang Club

I bought a pj last year any suggestions on pickups that will yield a more bassier sound? A guitar player in group I play in complained that mustang was getting lost on the mix, sounding more like guitar than bass, particularly around mid fingerboard (D on G strong? I like the neck and size of the mustang, but other basses I have (66 jazz is most noteable ) don’t present this problem

Could be psychological. There are those who will never accept a short scale as "a real bass". Or just a case of "It looks more guitar-like than your other basses, therefore it must sound more like a guitar than your other basses". People do tend to hear with their eyes. I’m not saying that’s the case here, but just bringing up the possibility.

It’s a somewhat different instrument, but my MIJ Mustang definitely doesn’t get lost in the mix. It’s not as full sounding as my P, but it can certainly be clearly heard and it sounds like a bass. I don’t have a PJ Mustang, but I’d figure that a PJ on just its P pickup would by bassier than a Jazz, no? For one, short scales are inherently bassy (well, more fundamental, less upper harmonics). Finally, it’s more in the midrange frequencies that one can generally cut through a mix, imo.

Anyway, listening, do you agree with him? I mean, he may be exactly right, how would I know, lol. Are you using only the P pickup? If not, try that. Using both pickups together can create a mid-scooped sound that could get lost in some mixes. Of course the J pickup on its own wouldn’t be the way to go if you’re trying to sound more bassy. Backing off on the tone knob a bit could make it sound less guitary, but turning the tone knob down too low could lead to an indistinct sound that could...get lost in the mix. So, tone knob to taste, with an eye towards cutting through but not sounding like a guitar (I generally like my tone knob almost all the way up [i.e. backed off just a little], fwiw, though I adjust as needed on a case-by-case basis). Finally, a preamp pedal or EQ pedal to let you boost any missing frequencies could be another option besides a pickup change (not that there’s anything wrong with a pickup change; my next projects are pickup changes on two of my basses that just haven’t been cutting it).

Finally, finally, don’t forget to investigate the amp settings. The same settings that worked for your Jazz may not be the optimal settings for your Mustang.

Good luck on working it all out!
 
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I bought a pj last year any suggestions on pickups that will yield a more bassier sound? A guitar player in group I play in complained that mustang was getting lost on the mix, sounding more like guitar than bass, particularly around mid fingerboard (D on G strong? I like the neck and size of the mustang, but other basses I have (66 jazz is most noteable ) don’t present this problem
I got mine 2nd hand with Quarter Pounder pickups already installed. I turn down the bass on my amp's EQ when playing as there's so much bass, particularly if P only. I don't know what the stock ones sound like but I'd definitely want to try everything DMT suggests first though. The tone control, and bass EQ on your amp would probably make all the difference you need if you're already happy with the sound. Or try adjusting the pickup heights if it's particular strings that aren't cutting through. Lots of things you could try before switching pickups. And I agree it's important to check if it's just the guitarist who has the problem. He might not be able to hear you because he's standing too close to his amp and playing too loud. Or wearing earplugs that cut out certain frequencies. I say that as someone in a band with a very loud lead guitarist who wears earplugs. :)
 
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Ok can't stand it. Here it is instead of having to mess with the avatar. Cavities shielded, custom pickguard .040mm, new pickguard from Pickguard Planet (done and delivered in 4 days), not a hiss, hum, or static what so ever. Made me nervous at first and I wondered if I would get any string sound. Yup sure did! Finally a set of D'Adarrio Chrome flats to round it all out.
The only thing left to do is just play it.
Any questions feel free.
Have a great day.
Bob
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Ok can't stand it. Here it is instead of having to mess with the avatar. Cavities shielded, custom pickguard .040mm, new pickguard from Pickguard Planet (done and delivered in 4 days), not a hiss, hum, or static what so ever. Made me nervous at first and I wondered if I would get any string sound. Yup sure did! Finally a set of D'Adarrio Chrome flats to round it all out.
The only thing left to do is just play it.
Any questions feel free.
Have a great day.
BobView attachment 3391879

THAT is beautiful, Bob!
 
Here's mine. According to serial number guides, it's a 1972, and I got it used in 1977 to play in the middle school jazz band. The original red finish was badly damaged, and as a cellist, I never figured out frets. While in high school, I refinished and de-fretted it, and made the pickguard out of black acrylic. Judging from the looks, I'm guessing that the body might be some kind of poplar. It has the Nordstrand replacement pickups in it.

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Now for the GAS announcement! I just sold my, ahem, 1993 Gibson Les Paul Sadard and My Marshall 4x12 half stack for a bit more than expected.
I have been given the green light to add a new bass to the mix. So tomorrow is a sceduled field trip to try out a New Performer Mustang and a 2015 G&L L2000.
I am really not to sure how I truly feel. But as a very wise man once said "One of anything ain't worth a damn!"
Well in the least I get outta this house.
Bob
 
Here's mine. According to serial number guides, it's a 1972, and I got it used in 1977 to play in the middle school jazz band. The original red finish was badly damaged, and as a cellist, I never figured out frets. While in high school, I refinished and de-fretted it, and made the pickguard out of black acrylic. Judging from the looks, I'm guessing that the body might be some kind of poplar. It has the Nordstrand replacement pickups in it.

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Short sweet and to the point. I REALLY LIKE IT! That is sweet! Especially for a high school student.
Bob (class of '69)
 
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Ok can't stand it. Here it is instead of having to mess with the avatar. Cavities shielded, custom pickguard .040mm, new pickguard from Pickguard Planet (done and delivered in 4 days), not a hiss, hum, or static what so ever. Made me nervous at first and I wondered if I would get any string sound. Yup sure did! Finally a set of D'Adarrio Chrome flats to round it all out.
The only thing left to do is just play it.
Any questions feel free.
Have a great day.
BobView attachment 3391879
What a beauty! Nice job Bob!

And I like the racing stripe, but it would be just as gorgeous without it imho...
 
Ok can't stand it. Here it is instead of having to mess with the avatar. Cavities shielded, custom pickguard .040mm, new pickguard from Pickguard Planet (done and delivered in 4 days), not a hiss, hum, or static what so ever. Made me nervous at first and I wondered if I would get any string sound. Yup sure did! Finally a set of D'Adarrio Chrome flats to round it all out.
The only thing left to do is just play it.
Any questions feel free.
Have a great day.
BobView attachment 3391879

Looks really good...funny , I just ordered the same pickguard yesterday from pickguard planet minus the toggle swith hole...Least I know that it looks really good on the white! :thumbsup:
 
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Florinda4:

What’s the color of the ‘Stang in your avatar? Looks like copper. PJ body with a maple FB? What’s the story on that combination? Far as I know, the maple fingerboard necks are either 70’s USA made or new CME special order only.
 
Well I had my GAS Moment and tried the Fender Performer Mustang and the G&L L2000 today and a good time was had by all! Especially my daughter. Her current condition (pregnant with my first Grandson) had done nothing to dull her sense of humor. I arrived sat down and awaited the Mustang and what does the sales guy bring out for me to test drive?! A “MINT” Mustang! Not just the pickguard but the whole darn thing. The room explodes in laughter! Apparently my daughter (soon to be disowned) had called ahead and set this all up for their entertainment. Suprisingy, despite the color I really enjoyed the bass. The neck feels a bit thinner but nothing I couldn't get used to. I was able to hear the J pup solidly when solo, and P pup was strong and deep like it is supposed to be and when used together there was not the fade nor tone decrease that I was used to. Very nice little bass that from what I could see would not need much mod at all.

Then the sales guy takes the colorful ‘Stang and returns with the L2000 w/a natural finish and a grey pickguard looking fine except ther are “MINT” ribbons hanging off each of the Tuners. She just couldn't leave it alone. The group blows up guffawing as does all the customers in the store as word got around (now she is disinherited)! It was exactly like the reviews described. I need not say more as this is the Mustang Club, is it not? I am soooo glad to be of entertainment to my friends and family (grimacing).

Now it is time to mull things over. We left without a purchase either way. A big disappoint for the group. GOOD!

So I guess my next post will be for NBD.

I will keep all informed as it occurs.

Looking back it was funnier than hell and I still have bouts of chuckling. Not bad for a under 30 blond! No offense to young blonds intended!

Until the next chapter.

Bob
 
Ok can't stand it. Here it is instead of having to mess with the avatar. Cavities shielded, custom pickguard .040mm, new pickguard from Pickguard Planet (done and delivered in 4 days), not a hiss, hum, or static what so ever. Made me nervous at first and I wondered if I would get any string sound. Yup sure did! Finally a set of D'Adarrio Chrome flats to round it all out.
The only thing left to do is just play it.
Any questions feel free.
Have a great day.
BobView attachment 3391879

Stripe looks pretty cool
 
Florinda4:

What’s the color of the ‘Stang in your avatar? Looks like copper. PJ body with a maple FB? What’s the story on that combination? Far as I know, the maple fingerboard necks are either 70’s USA made or new CME special order only.

Candy Tangerine, and the fret board is pau ferro. Started as one of those $399 special mentioned by @pudge in the post above yours. Its story is here: Fender Mustang Club

I just love this little jewel with its fat flexible sound. Mustang "Molly" is now my regular bass for almost everything (mostly small ensemble jazz, practice, unpredictable jams, etc).

Exceptions are big band, where I rely on my 2006 EB MM Sterling with Rotosound 77s and active pups to keep everyone in line, and beloved '73 Pbass for occasional casuals that are classic rock- or motown-related - though the Mustang would be fine for that, imho.

But I play occasionally with some other geezers who need to SEE a P-bass come out of the case to feel comfortable. I swear it's all about the optics, though even with the Fralin pups I admit the Mustang never will sound exactly like a Pbass. Very close, but not exact. And that's not a qualitative judgment. Neither is better than the other, to my ear. Just different. And the Mustang is far more flexible in its range of tone/sound.

If I fiddled with the tone and blend knobs a bit and then put blindfolds on my co-geezers, I doubt they could tell the difference.
 
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Awesome color. I see the neck is not maple from the pics in your link. Doing my first re-build and trying to decide on a different kind of color. Yours caught my eye. The build is a '71 body with a JMJ neck and Quarter Pounder P-Bass PUPS. Will probably switch out the Hipshot Lollipop tuners for Hipshot Lightweights. Been considering a really dark gun metal blue, like what they used on the Squire Katana. Or, TV Yellow, which already looks kinda like faded Olympic White. Or, Maui Blue. Or, Rust Red. Anything but Sonic Blue or Seafoam Green!
 
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Man this thread is giving me MUSTANG GAS!!!!!

Hi BamaBird. My name is David Lee and I am a bassaholic. Welcome to the Mustang BHPD Help Center. :drool: I imagine there is probably some form of treatment for this condition, but I don't want to know what it is. I'm not ready for recovery since I'm currently enjoying my 4-string dependency. I shamefully admit to owning five MB's, three hybrid Mustang builds in various stages of non-completion and an MM re-build on the way. Oh yeah, and a Squire Vintage Modified Jaguar Short Scale. So far, not having any distracting and annoying thoughts of slowing down. Guess it depends on how long the bank account holds up under the strain of constant incoming packages.