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Fender Plus Deluxe Club

Franco was the bass player in a band a friend of mine got involved in about 15 years ago when he moved back into the area. Kind of a crusty guy but nice enough to a stranger who showed up at his gig with an old Precision that looked like it had never been played. He was slow getting back to the band stand after a break but showed up quick after (at the rest of the bands' request) I started playing my bass through his rig.

Over the years I sat in with the band 2 or 3 times a year mostly on guitar. Franco was a solid player who knew a million tunes and he really liked to play so my opportunities on bass were limited. I quickly found out that I could depend on him to keep the pulse and changes going even while I struggled with an unfamiliar tune.

Four years ago I brought my new (to me) Washburn bass to a rehearsal and he played it for the whole time. It sounded great. Franco was not a snob when it came to instruments. When I first met him he was using an old Ibanez but the day I brought the Washburn he had the Jazz Plus.

I'd never heard of a Jazz Plus. The headstock was painted the same color as the body and the words 'Jazz +' were there in blocky stick on letters. He told me it was a real Fender but he had refinished it. I don't think he was real happy with it, though. He didn't seem to know what the knob positions did and the battery was dead or dying. Maybe that's why he played my Washburn that day! The next time I saw him, he was playing a beautiful sunburst Jazz that I could hear two blocks away from the pizza joint the band was playing at.

That time and the next time a few months later I played a lot more bass with the band because Franco wasn't feeling too well. It sure felt good to be validated by Franco letting me sub for him while he was there.

Sadly, three months later, he wasn't there any more. Franco died in January 2012. Long story short, after a couple of months I was able to purchase some of Franco's gear from the estate. I really wanted the old Jazz but it turned out to belong to someone else who had loaned it to Franco so the Jazz Plus came to me almost by default.

I cleaned it up and played it around but it didn't move me like that old Jazz had. I liked the sound I got out of the Washburn – humbucking pickups and 3 band active preamp – so I set the Plus aside for a while.

I did like the neck on it, though, so I kept coming back to it, even if only to play for a few minutes in the bedroom unamplified. That's when I really started to notice the neck dive. I rationalized that it was no longer a stock instrument due to Franco's refinish job so I changed out the tuners for Hip Shot UltraLights.

Then I found that the battery kept dying even though I was careful to switch off the preamp when I wasn't playing. All the connections seemed ok so I eventually just took out the Kubicki preamp and put in a Bartolini 2 band. Same number of holes but the old knobs didn't fit so now you can see the darker unfaded finish around the now smaller knobs.

I still didn't like the sound so last month I replaced the Lace Sensors with DiMarzio Ultra Jazz pickups. Bingo! Now I've got a bass that's got some of Franco's mojo but with a sound I really like. Now when I rock it, I can feel Franco smiling at me!
 
It seems like it has been a while since there was an update on the thread.
I just got a used 1990 Precision Plus. It seems that it has all the original hardware though i'm suspecting the tuning keys were replaced. I bought it from musicgoround.com for 650 USD and it comes with a hardshell case not the original but a fender HSC. I had no contact with the previous owner to know the exact history of the bass.
Here are some pictures, what do you guys think?
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That's beautiful congrats
 
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Franco was the bass player in a band a friend of mine got involved in about 15 years ago when he moved back into the area. Kind of a crusty guy but nice enough to a stranger who showed up at his gig with an old Precision that looked like it had never been played. He was slow getting back to the band stand after a break but showed up quick after (at the rest of the bands' request) I started playing my bass through his rig.

Over the years I sat in with the band 2 or 3 times a year mostly on guitar. Franco was a solid player who knew a million tunes and he really liked to play so my opportunities on bass were limited. I quickly found out that I could depend on him to keep the pulse and changes going even while I struggled with an unfamiliar tune.

Four years ago I brought my new (to me) Washburn bass to a rehearsal and he played it for the whole time. It sounded great. Franco was not a snob when it came to instruments. When I first met him he was using an old Ibanez but the day I brought the Washburn he had the Jazz Plus.

I'd never heard of a Jazz Plus. The headstock was painted the same color as the body and the words 'Jazz +' were there in blocky stick on letters. He told me it was a real Fender but he had refinished it. I don't think he was real happy with it, though. He didn't seem to know what the knob positions did and the battery was dead or dying. Maybe that's why he played my Washburn that day! The next time I saw him, he was playing a beautiful sunburst Jazz that I could hear two blocks away from the pizza joint the band was playing at.

That time and the next time a few months later I played a lot more bass with the band because Franco wasn't feeling too well. It sure felt good to be validated by Franco letting me sub for him while he was there.

Sadly, three months later, he wasn't there any more. Franco died in January 2012. Long story short, after a couple of months I was able to purchase some of Franco's gear from the estate. I really wanted the old Jazz but it turned out to belong to someone else who had loaned it to Franco so the Jazz Plus came to me almost by default.

I cleaned it up and played it around but it didn't move me like that old Jazz had. I liked the sound I got out of the Washburn – humbucking pickups and 3 band active preamp – so I set the Plus aside for a while.

I did like the neck on it, though, so I kept coming back to it, even if only to play for a few minutes in the bedroom unamplified. That's when I really started to notice the neck dive. I rationalized that it was no longer a stock instrument due to Franco's refinish job so I changed out the tuners for Hip Shot UltraLights.

Then I found that the battery kept dying even though I was careful to switch off the preamp when I wasn't playing. All the connections seemed ok so I eventually just took out the Kubicki preamp and put in a Bartolini 2 band. Same number of holes but the old knobs didn't fit so now you can see the darker unfaded finish around the now smaller knobs.

I still didn't like the sound so last month I replaced the Lace Sensors with DiMarzio Ultra Jazz pickups. Bingo! Now I've got a bass that's got some of Franco's mojo but with a sound I really like. Now when I rock it, I can feel Franco smiling at me!

I love this story - thank you for sharing groundedchris - (wait a minute… Pacifica! - expect PM)! Anyway, this is what I'm thinking - this is what draws me to tb. Yes, I'm a bass-porn addict but when someone can share/express an experience as a bass-player - isn't this really what it comes down to? Isn't that what we crave really? Obsessing over a wooden plank w/strings on it… and a shared experience? (I'm already signed up!)
 
I love this story - thank you for sharing groundedchris - (wait a minute… Pacifica! - expect PM)! Anyway, this is what I'm thinking - this is what draws me to tb. Yes, I'm a bass-porn addict but when someone can share/express an experience as a bass-player - isn't this really what it comes down to? Isn't that what we crave really? Obsessing over a wooden plank w/strings on it… and a shared experience? (I'm already signed up!)
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Jazz Plus on ebay - (no affiliation) Whole bass or neck/tuners - 2 separate BIN auctions. Missing bridge pu and orig knobs on the body, and has Schaller deluxe tuners on the neck. (no case) Price is a bit high for such, but possibly of interest being the body is (natural) ash. (most are alder) The neck w/the deluxe tuners is $375 free shipping so in the ballbark if you want a nice 22 fret US made Fender neck.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-Fender...ad-/121372320121?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-USA-...ts-/121373833542?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123


Update: The auction above has changed since yesterday - orig stacked-pot knobs are now on but not pictured… (?) curious. Not clear if the bridge pu which is not installed is included or not. (apparently needs repair) And w/a non-orig tweed hs case & higher BIN price. Unless you really want an ash body - the red one below is a killer deal on these great, underrated basses.


And just checking, this red '90 Jazz Plus is now $474 - shipped! crazy good deal

https://reverb.com/item/155309-fender-jazz-bass-plus-1990-red

Update: as of July 11th 2014 - still available for $475.

For anyone interested, here is a Fender HSC like the ones it was sold with new currently on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141044367374?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Adding the case & shipping, you can own a sweet US made Jazz Plus w/HSC for $648! Really hard to beat considering it's a quality US made 22 fret Kubicki-powered tone monster for under $700 w/HSC. Honestly, if I already didn't own one (see below post) I would be all over this. (not into owning multiples of the same exact bass for collectors sake)
 
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Just wanted to bump my thread w/a pic of my 2 same year ('93) 22 fret black-sheep Jazz basses from the early 90's; American Standard (boner) and Jazz Plus. The red boner has upgraded pu's (NJ4's), bridge (Schaller 3D) and tuners (Schaller deluxe) … oh, and aged white strat knobs. Tone-monsters each, one passive w/TBX and one w/9v Kubicki pre. A very good year for US made Jazz basses.

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Hey JIO, I have a black jazz plus just like yours . I have had it for quite a while. I am thinking of selling it but I really hate to part with it . I have six basses and really need a new mixer and power amp . Still can't make up my mind . I just bought back my Ibanez musician that I purchased new in 1979 , and a BRX10.2 cab , so a new mixer and power amp are out of the picture unless I sell something.
 
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Hey JIO, I have a black jazz plus just like yours . I have had it for quite a while. I am thinking of selling it but I really hate to part with it . I have six basses and really need a new mixer and power amp . Still can't make up my mind . I just bought back my Ibanez musician that I purchased new in 1979 , and a BRX10.2 cab , so a new mixer and power amp are out of the picture unless I sell something.

sorry, just saw this - hope you made up your mind. Yah, it's hard to let an old friend go - but needs are needs...
 
Franco was the bass player in a band a friend of mine got involved in about 15 years ago when he moved back into the area. Kind of a crusty guy but nice enough to a stranger who showed up at his gig with an old Precision that looked like it had never been played. He was slow getting back to the band stand after a break but showed up quick after (at the rest of the bands' request) I started playing my bass through his rig.

Over the years I sat in with the band 2 or 3 times a year mostly on guitar. Franco was a solid player who knew a million tunes and he really liked to play so my opportunities on bass were limited. I quickly found out that I could depend on him to keep the pulse and changes going even while I struggled with an unfamiliar tune.

Four years ago I brought my new (to me) Washburn bass to a rehearsal and he played it for the whole time. It sounded great. Franco was not a snob when it came to instruments. When I first met him he was using an old Ibanez but the day I brought the Washburn he had the Jazz Plus.

I'd never heard of a Jazz Plus. The headstock was painted the same color as the body and the words 'Jazz +' were there in blocky stick on letters. He told me it was a real Fender but he had refinished it. I don't think he was real happy with it, though. He didn't seem to know what the knob positions did and the battery was dead or dying. Maybe that's why he played my Washburn that day! The next time I saw him, he was playing a beautiful sunburst Jazz that I could hear two blocks away from the pizza joint the band was playing at.

That time and the next time a few months later I played a lot more bass with the band because Franco wasn't feeling too well. It sure felt good to be validated by Franco letting me sub for him while he was there.

Sadly, three months later, he wasn't there any more. Franco died in January 2012. Long story short, after a couple of months I was able to purchase some of Franco's gear from the estate. I really wanted the old Jazz but it turned out to belong to someone else who had loaned it to Franco so the Jazz Plus came to me almost by default.

I cleaned it up and played it around but it didn't move me like that old Jazz had. I liked the sound I got out of the Washburn – humbucking pickups and 3 band active preamp – so I set the Plus aside for a while.

I did like the neck on it, though, so I kept coming back to it, even if only to play for a few minutes in the bedroom unamplified. That's when I really started to notice the neck dive. I rationalized that it was no longer a stock instrument due to Franco's refinish job so I changed out the tuners for Hip Shot UltraLights.

Then I found that the battery kept dying even though I was careful to switch off the preamp when I wasn't playing. All the connections seemed ok so I eventually just took out the Kubicki preamp and put in a Bartolini 2 band. Same number of holes but the old knobs didn't fit so now you can see the darker unfaded finish around the now smaller knobs.

I still didn't like the sound so last month I replaced the Lace Sensors with DiMarzio Ultra Jazz pickups. Bingo! Now I've got a bass that's got some of Franco's mojo but with a sound I really like. Now when I rock it, I can feel Franco smiling at me!
i have palying 23 years bass and i have play many many basses from ken smith to squire and i am telling you that fender plus with the original parts is one of the greatest basses i have ever dig in! i dont know why you dont like something on it! kubicki preamp is so cool and i have never had problems with battery life! lace sensors is amazing pups with vintage soul! i think you are you and me is me but i have couple of people who knows from good basses and they have the exactly point of view with me
 
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i have palying 23 years bass and i have play many many basses from ken smith to squire and i am telling you that fender plus with the original parts is one of the greatest basses i have ever dig in! i dont know why you dont like something on it! kubicki preamp is so cool and i have never had problems with battery life! lace sensors is amazing pups with vintage soul! i think you are you and me is me but i have couple of people who knows from good basses and they have the exactly point of view with me

They are really underrated basses and I'm glad you're digging yours. Fortunately for us there are many, many options out there for all the individual preferences we have as players.
 
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They are really underrated basses and I'm glad you're digging yours. Fortunately for us there are many, many options out there for all the individual preferences we have as players.
i prefer to play basses that can cut very well in the mix and can follow a big majority of different songs from rock funk progressive metal to jazz and this beast has succesfully past my test! the only instrument that iam digging more from this its a bacchus 5 jazz!
 
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Hey guys, I just purchased an early 90's Precision 'Cowpoke' sort of sight unseen. It's one of the basses on my bucket list and I practically stole it off the guy. Low and behold I brought it home, opened up the back and found out why I really got it so cheap...someone removed the Kubicki preamp setup and installed some aftermarket no-name pots. So aggravating! Now I need to find a Kubicki preamp setup. Does anyone have one laying around or know where I might be able to find them? There are none on eBay. I think I'm going to try contacting the Kubicki company online and see if they have any kicking around. Thanks for any help guys!

-Joe
 
Hey guys, I just purchased an early 90's Precision 'Cowpoke' sort of sight unseen. It's one of the basses on my bucket list and I practically stole it off the guy. Low and behold I brought it home, opened up the back and found out why I really got it so cheap...someone removed the Kubicki preamp setup and installed some aftermarket no-name pots. So aggravating! Now I need to find a Kubicki preamp setup. Does anyone have one laying around or know where I might be able to find them? There are none on eBay. I think I'm going to try contacting the Kubicki company online and see if they have any kicking around. Thanks for any help guys!

-Joe

Hey Joe - First off, the pre in the 'cowpokes' was a Fender product, not a Kubicki. (sort of Fender doing a Kubicki pre, sort of) If what is in your bass is active (9v) and set up like the Kubicki w/2 stacked pots - that's the way it came. The orig Kubicki pre's (either 9 or 18v) do not appear often or at all - but.., visit 'The Kubicki Factor' fb page and there's a guy (Guitar Dr? or something) who services Kubicki Factors. A place to start your search - good luck.