I was done with the 62s as well, but i'm really liking these new ones. Yet another pickup I have to try out, thanks Jimmy
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Fender "Pure Vintage" Pickups
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I was done with the 62s as well, but i'm really liking these new ones. Yet another pickup I have to try out, thanks Jimmy
Seriously, I wonder whats the difference between the '74 vs '75
pickups.
Are they not made with the same materials?
pickups.
Are they not made with the same materials?
I had both the 74 and 75 AVRI....the 74 pups blow the 75s out of the water! the 75s were kinda thin sounding compared to the 74s....the 74s were very full and even sounding...I really loved those pickups and psyched fender released them to the public!
I am doing a MJT 1960 build now and I got antiquity 2s for them....since I already had one I just needed another.
I am doing a MJT 1960 build now and I got antiquity 2s for them....since I already had one I just needed another.
Ahh crap, I was hoping they were alike.
But seriously, I'd like to find out in what way the design changed, beside the fancy cloth wire.
Btw, are your sure the full even sound was coming from the pickups, or the bass itself?
I own a 63 P RI and it's one of the best Fender stock pickup I have played. Much better than what came on the 62 P RI. The pickup is on par with a SD Ant II or a Fralin.
It has it own tone and personality, it's very balanced and does not quite hit the highs found on a Fralin or the lows found on a SD Ant II but it sounds very good. It has nice punch. It ultimately boils down to your tonal preferences. It's also on par with the DP250 from Dimarzio which remains the best value for vintage toned pickup. If you are in a market for vintage tone, I would stay start there before paying more.
Ahh crap, I was hoping they were alike.
But seriously, I'd like to find out in what way the design changed, beside the fancy cloth wire.
Btw, are your sure the full even sound was coming from the pickups, or the bass itself?
my 75 was ash and 74 was alder....both had maple necks....the ash could have made it a touch brighter....but like the last poster said whatever they did they really stepped up the quality in these....you can compare them to Fralins.....whatever they did to change them you can hear the better quality in the pickups compared to the last set of AVRIs that were out.....the only pickups that Fender makes that are as good or better is the select pickups.
i knew i was wrong on what the spb-1 measured
pulled it out last night and it's 11.4k (5.8/5.6), swapped in a fender '62 p'up that measures 10.8k...should be practicing tonight so we'll see whats up.
i thought the poles on the spb1 were a few mm longer (they extend through the bottom of the bobbin while the fender poles are perfectly flush on the bottom) but they might net to the same length. should've looked closer. would pole length make a difference in sound?
the winding on the spb-1 are more uniform.
i'll probably think the '62 pup is fine once i get the height dialed in...then decide i can find something better in a few months.
kinda want to try a lollar.
Well, I got a set of the 74's.
Beside the cloth wire and the Shellac, the only difference is the magnet size. The 75 magnets are flush against the bottom and the 74's protrude outward so they are a little longer.
Your right, they are better.
Beside the 75's, I have the custom shop 60's, had Aero type 1, the Duncan sbj-1, the 62 vintage fender and original fender.
i've noticed these '63 precision pure vintage pickups for sale around the 'net
ebay and angelina have them
just sayin
ebay and angelina have them
just sayin
Yeah they sound smoother fuller more even. I really liked them. Kinda wish I kept that bass. I might pick up a set of the 74s for my standard. I tossed some dimarzio ultra jazz in it last week. They are a bit too bright but pretty good. Might be too bright for me.
Yup, angela instruments has em. I got mine at Darren Riley's Guitar & Amp Shop. Some other places are popping up.
Yeah thats how I describe the sound, smooth full and even.
They seem to be voiced exactly like the 75's as far as tone. But I think the longer magnets account for the extra muscle behind that tone.
Btw, I never tried dimarzio even though the factory is a few miles away from me.
I Just dislike the vocabulary Fender use.
It makes it more and more difficult to describe original basses and components with all the words that Fender use now.
Davo
It makes it more and more difficult to describe original basses and components with all the words that Fender use now.
Davo
My experience with "older" version of Fender '60 J pick ups is very positive. My bass really came alive in live band situation. Very hot and articulate. Red lots of negative comments too, but, once again I was very pleased. Price is totally fair,too. Would go with Fender pups anytime, when and if needed.
If only there's some sound clip of it and fair comparison with it's competitors (esp. I'd like it to be EMG Geezer, SD SPB-1,..and etc, pickups that people think comparable to it)
I am also reading about this pure vintage pickups. Nice to hear that they are even better then 75's RI pickups. So Rayman, you already compae it to 75, nice description, what about comparison to the custom shop 60's, Aero type 1, the Duncan sbj-1, the 62 vintage fender and original fender; that you said that you have ?
By the way; I have an american standard, adler, maple neck, normal magnets position - what do you think I can achive with that 74's pure vintage pickups? I think I would like it, cause I like the caracter, but with ash and 70's position (aka marcus) is to much high mid usually for me; with 60's magnets ( custom shop 60's) I found it to glassy.
By the way; I have an american standard, adler, maple neck, normal magnets position - what do you think I can achive with that 74's pure vintage pickups? I think I would like it, cause I like the caracter, but with ash and 70's position (aka marcus) is to much high mid usually for me; with 60's magnets ( custom shop 60's) I found it to glassy.
Well, the 74's are very similar to the 75's. But after taking a second look it seems the magnets are the same lenght except the 75's magnets are flush against the grey bottom, and the 74's magnets are flush with the pickup cover instead. They both have a strongest upper mids with the 74's having more warmth in spite of the nearly identical construction.
I know what you mean by 60's CS being 'glassy', yet the 60's CS have plump lower mids that can get pretty chubby. In my case the set of Aero's I had sounded nearly identical to the 60's CS.
I remember the 62 vintage being a little sterile and without depth. I would put them in the same category as the original set if I remember them correctly.
Now the Duncans were nice, they had a certain colorfull vibe that was pretty raw. I wish I hung on to them.
You mean Duncans sjb-1?, or some antiquity II?
Yes, CS 60 can be chubby, little too much sometime and you can hear that are low mid oriented, which I like, but I found it lacking in depth or in real low end (when you want to feel it in the mix) - maybe I am wrong here?; I get more low end with stock fender american standard pickups ( 98's american standard jazz), but over all tho stock ones are of course not very good.
I heared also that 62's or "original" fender are lacking in lows.
Well, of course we have to stay in touch with a theme of this topic; so I am looking forward to hear more about this "pure vintage" pickups and some comparison.
Yes, CS 60 can be chubby, little too much sometime and you can hear that are low mid oriented, which I like, but I found it lacking in depth or in real low end (when you want to feel it in the mix) - maybe I am wrong here?; I get more low end with stock fender american standard pickups ( 98's american standard jazz), but over all tho stock ones are of course not very good.
I heared also that 62's or "original" fender are lacking in lows.
Well, of course we have to stay in touch with a theme of this topic; so I am looking forward to hear more about this "pure vintage" pickups and some comparison.
Ray man is correct on the magnet lengths and positions
Ok - the geeky engineering note is:
The 74's have less capacitance and more inductance in the coil winding - they almost exactly match my vintage early 70s pickups with only a very slight increase in capacitance from the vintage pickup - they are the closest match I have measured to date.
The 75's have a close match in the Japan (not US) Geddy Lee pickups - except the 75's magnets have a hard edge and the magnets are charged in the opposite polarities compared to the Japanese pickups.
Ok - the geeky engineering note is:
The 74's have less capacitance and more inductance in the coil winding - they almost exactly match my vintage early 70s pickups with only a very slight increase in capacitance from the vintage pickup - they are the closest match I have measured to date.
The 75's have a close match in the Japan (not US) Geddy Lee pickups - except the 75's magnets have a hard edge and the magnets are charged in the opposite polarities compared to the Japanese pickups.
I want to add that all of these pickups have there own charm, and one set isn't night and day different than the other. Infact, I like the 75 bridge pickup better than the 74, but I like the 74 neck pickup better than the 75. The 75 bridge is snappy and burppy while the 74 neck is more dynamic.
IOW don't put your 75 reissue on the curb for garbage pickup.
