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Fender Rumble Club

So I am looking at getting either the 500c or the new 800
I have played through a 500c and as you all know it sounds great and is a power house
The extra power is nice on the 800 but not what I am looking at the 800 for. Putting another 400w to an external cab IS something to consider though and having the 4 ohm cab option could come in handy.

I see a few differences with the 800 and would like your input(s) on them

1. There is a pre and post XLR line out. A lot of Rumble users have complained about the standard setting on the 500c is post line out. There is a way to change this (I have read) but it doesn't seem easy.
Has anyone changed the line out settings on a 500c?
2. The 800 has a two 1/4" line-outs for stereo. Has anyone used such a feature before and for what application(s) would this be used for?
3. The 800 has a USB port. I read that this can be used for recording (true or false)? Or is this just for connecting to a computer (firmware, updates and such)?

Eventually I would like to join a band but for now I am happy just jamming/practicing on my own. I feel the FXs would be to my advantage at home but worried about the durability of the amp if I start playing out.
Does anyone have experience with any of the other newer Fender digital amps and their ruggedness?
My brother has an older Cyber Twin that has stood the test of time with fairly heavy gigging but not sure how that compares to 'todays' digital amps (amp is still running and sounding great but the big a$$ pedal board that came with it did not!)

Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated, thanks for reading

I was told that the USB output can be used for recording. :thumbsup:
 
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Just purchased a used Rumble 60. It's got two smaller gigs and one larger gig, where the band leader had me put it, "right behind the drummer's head to push him along."

No idea how old it is, but it's dead quiet and works well.

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Welcome Rumbler #880! When @Linnin shows up, he can probably tell you when it was made. Cool amp. Rumble on!
 
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So I am looking at getting either the 500c or the new 800
I have played through a 500c and as you all know it sounds great and is a power house
The extra power is nice on the 800 but not what I am looking at the 800 for. Putting another 400w to an external cab IS something to consider though and having the 4 ohm cab option could come in handy.

I see a few differences with the 800 and would like your input(s) on them

1. There is a pre and post XLR line out. A lot of Rumble users have complained about the standard setting on the 500c is post line out. There is a way to change this (I have read) but it doesn't seem easy.
Has anyone changed the line out settings on a 500c?
2. The 800 has a two 1/4" line-outs for stereo. Has anyone used such a feature before and for what application(s) would this be used for?
3. The 800 has a USB port. I read that this can be used for recording (true or false)? Or is this just for connecting to a computer (firmware, updates and such)?

Eventually I would like to join a band but for now I am happy just jamming/practicing on my own. I feel the FXs would be to my advantage at home but worried about the durability of the amp if I start playing out.
Does anyone have experience with any of the other newer Fender digital amps and their ruggedness?
My brother has an older Cyber Twin that has stood the test of time with fairly heavy gigging but not sure how that compares to 'todays' digital amps (amp is still running and sounding great but the big a$$ pedal board that came with it did not!)

Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated, thanks for reading

Here's my input on differences between the 500c and 800. I've owned and gigged a 500c for a few years. All I know about the 800 is what I've read from reviewers, a couple owners and the manual.

1. The 2 XLRs on the 800 default to mono pre and post and are NOT affected by the Master volume. They can be configured to stereo post, still not affected by Master. Their volume level can be adjusted, but likely won't need to be (though the manual doesn't mention this). The Master volume affects on the 500c are comparatively small. I've not read of a way to change this, or anyone who has done it.
2. The stereo XLRs on the 800 would be for sending stereo fx, such as ping pong delay, to FOH. I've not yet read of anyone doing this on bass, but it probably won't be long.
3. The USB on the 800 is an output for connecting to a computer for recording. Firmware updates are done by wifi!

The 500c has been very reliable to me and others here, despite it's light weight. If you feel protective, there are padded covers available with more protection than Fender's covers. The 800 is so new there's not a lot of feedback yet, but there are one or two members here still honeymooning with theirs that we are awaiting reviews from.

HTH
 
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Welcome Rumbler #880! When @Linnin shows up, he can probably tell you when it was made. Cool amp. Rumble on!

Thanks! I wonder if I could find out by pulling the chassis. There's supposed to be an inspection sticker somewhere on it with a date code.

I've suddenly begun to get tons of pickup gigs, so the Rumble and a D.I. have been staying in the back of my Blazer. I've got it backwards now. My big rig stays in my rehearsal room, and my "practice" amp has been going to all the gigs.
 
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Just purchased a used Rumble 60. It's got two smaller gigs and one larger gig, where the band leader had me put it, "right behind the drummer's head to push him along."

No idea how old it is, but it's dead quiet and works well.

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It looks to be a v1 Rumble, which was produced from 2003 to 2010. So, 8 to 15 years old?
 
I remember reading this also. Wasn't it in a post from Tom Bowlus?

@JACink, could you be thinking of this post from tombowlus where he mentions that you can adjust the XLRs' volume levels on the Stage 800 from it's menu?

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But, I believe tb4sb was talking about changing the 500c post line out, though not easy to do.

Right?
 
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A lot of Rumble users have complained about the standard setting on the 500c is post line out. There is a way to change this (I have read) but it doesn't seem easy.
Has anyone changed the line out settings on a 500c?
I don't know if anyone did this. I just looked and think it would not be an easy mod. First, check the diagram:

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The master volume controle is right after the bright/gain/vintage/overdrive circuit and before the rest of the circuit.
Then check the layout of the amp:

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The input jack is on the vertical PCB which is connected with a multi wire cable to the left PCB which has all the connectors on the back side, including the line out. If you want to tap off the signal before the master volume, you would have to figure out at what point of the circuit board that would be. Or maybe you could tap into one of the white cables. You would have to trace the incoming input signal until it gets to the master, preferably with a multimeter or scope (I do own one).
However, you would still loose the rest of the Rumble circuit: contour, EQ, FX send/return, HPF, limiter and speaker cab sim.

A more simple approach would be to drill an extra hole for an additional output jack and tap directly off the input jack. But that would bypass the entire amp circuit, equal to using a simple splitter on the bass output.
 
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Or tape an outboard DI to the top. :cool:

Fwiw... I may've commented ON the Rumble 500C and it's XLR/DI out. . That it would be NICE to have the OPTION to switch it pre or post. But. .... I've not complained about it. I've used my 500C on a fair few gigs where it's been going thru FOH PA and our sound engineers have never complained about the signal. . not once. I've personally asked em how the bass sounded and they've replied positively.
I've also told them about the post DI & that if I turn up onstage it'll affect their signal. Not once have any of them stated that there was any problem nor did they say they had to even adjust it out front.
So no doubt the info listed previously, about minor volume changes not making any difference to the DI'd signal, seem true.
Recently at a pub gig, I turned up from about 8 o'clock to around 10 o'clock onstage and the sound engineer didn't notice :woot:. Take from that what you will. ;)
 
Or tape an outboard DI to the top. :cool:

Fwiw... I may've commented ON the Rumble 500C and it's XLR/DI out. . That it would be NICE to have the OPTION to switch it pre or post. But. .... I've not complained about it. I've used my 500C on a fair few gigs where it's been going thru FOH PA and our sound engineers have never complained about the signal. . not once. I've personally asked em how the bass sounded and they've replied positively.
I've also told them about the post DI & that if I turn up onstage it'll affect their signal. Not once have any of them stated that there was any problem nor did they say they had to even adjust it out front.
So no doubt the info listed previously, about minor volume changes not making any difference to the DI'd signal, seem true.
Recently at a pub gig, I turned up from about 8 o'clock to around 10 o'clock onstage and the sound engineer didn't notice :woot:. Take from that what you will. ;)
I have the exact same experience. Many adjustments w/ no complaints from FOH. And I've played some big rooms with a 410 under my 500 combo!
 

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