Fender Rumble Club

[Aaron Houts]

I bet that rig rumbles the rafters! Love the V2 Rumble 350 head. Tone for days.

Thanks, @Linnin ! That decision was made with help from you and @GonePlaid . We live an hour and a half apart. I brought that rig down to his place and we used the R350 to A/B the v3 Rumble 112 and 115 cabs.
I’m THRILLED with my rig thanks to the help of the Rumble Club.
@NO_Camping4U , if you’re trying to put a Rumble rig together (which you should) you’ve come to the right place. Listen to these people and good luck!

 

[Linnin]

I’m THRILLED with my rig thanks to the help of the Rumble Club.

We are the best there is be! Rumble On!

 

[CallMeAl]

Hey Rumblers, as some of you may recall I've been debating getting a 200c vs chaining a 2nd 100c to my beloved 100c. I had a few questions I couldn't find in the wiki, or elsewhere:

1) should you make the FX connection with an instrument or speaker cable? Does it matter?
2) is there a difference between:
a) 200 head + 12" cab + 12" cab
Vs
b) 100c + 100c?
On paper that looks exactly the same, but is it really? I already know about the slave/master control thing. No interest in varying the 2 amp's sound, just concerned with the raw power.

I'm leaning towards a 2nd 100, since it's cheaper, and a 200w 2x12 amp sounds pretty bodacious. Just want to make sure I'm not overlooking something

TIA!

 

[Linnin]

a) 200 head + 12" cab + 12" cab
Vs
b) 100c + 100c?
On paper that looks exactly the same, but it it really?

No, it is not. Two 100 watt combos are two 100 watt combos. They are not and never will be a 200 watt amp. Each 100 watt combo (or amp) has exactly that much headroom. Even two 100 watt amps only have 100 watts of headroom a piece. Headroom is not additive, it is cumulative

 

[CallMeAl]

No, it is not. Two 100 watt combos are two 100 watt combos. They are not and never will be a 200 watt amp. Each 100 watt combo (or amp) has exactly that much headroom. Even two 100 watt amps only have 100 watts of headroom a piece. Headroom is not additive, it is cumulative

Ok, I was getting that impression (that they are not in fact equal.) So why do people do it? Are you basically making a 100w 2x12? Would you consider a 200c (alone at 140w) louder/better/stronger than the 100c x2 option?

 

[White Funk]

Who woulda thunk it? The OD on the Rumble is very good for guitar! This may have been covered in this lengthy thread but I'm very surprised how good it is. I had a little spare time so I compared it to an Egnater Tweaker 15 all tube head and my Fulltone 500. I tell ya - I like the OD on the Rumble better for guitar than even the Egnater or Fulltone! I know this comes down to sheer opinion and taste but I though it would be a slam dunk that the Rumble's solid state OD wouldn't have a chance against all tube or MOSFET but she really does have a great sound. I'm thinking the Rumble can be a "do it all" amp for me covering both bass and guitar duties. The only thing I'd add when using guitar through it is perhaps a reverb pedal. One man's opinion!

 

[Linnin]

One man's opinion!

Fenders are always the best opinion. Rumble On!

 

[Linnin]

Ok, I was getting that impression (that they are not in fact equal.) So why do people do it? Are you basically making a 100w 2x12? Would you consider a 200c (alone at 140w) louder/better/stronger than the 100c x2 option?

Yes. That is correct.

 

[CallMeAl]

Yes. That is correct.

Thanks @Linnin ! So glad you're back

 

[G-Dog]

Ok, I was getting that impression (that they are not in fact equal.) So why do people do it? Are you basically making a 100w 2x12? Would you consider a 200c (alone at 140w) louder/better/stronger than the 100c x2 option?

I think you want to consider speaker area, too, though. More, or bigger, speakers can give more sound pressure and better dispersion, which sounds louder. Running two 100s, w/2x12s, can be preferable to a single 200, w/140 wt.->1x15, alone. But, add a 115 cab to the 200 and then it has the edge w/200 wt->2x15.

The wildcard is the horn for high frequencies that the 200 has and the 100 doesn't. If you need that in your tone, then the choice is made. Many bassists just turn off the horn in their combos and cabs, though. It's a personal preference you really need to audition.

The two 100s also gives you a spare, that can be run to the PA if needed in a pinch. But, then, two 200s would certainly be a very strong and flexible rig! Like many here say, "Mo' Rumbles is mo' bettah!"

So, not necessarily a simple decision. But, certainly workable any way you go. You can't go wrong with Rumble(s).

 

[CallMeAl]

I think you want to consider speaker area, too, though. More, or bigger, speakers can give more sound pressure and better dispersion, which sounds louder. Running two 100s, w/2x12s, can be preferable to a single 200, w/140 wt.->1x15, alone. But, add a 115 cab to the 200 and then it has the edge w/200 wt->2x15.

The wildcard is the horn for high frequencies that the 200 has and the 100 doesn't. If you need that in your tone, then the choice is made. Many bassists just turn off the horn in their combos and cabs, though. It's a personal preference you really need to audition.

The two 100s also gives you a spare, that can be run to the PA if needed in a pinch. But, then, two 200s would certainly be a very strong and flexible rig! Like many here say, "Mo' Rumbles is mo' bettah!"

So, not necessarily a simple decision. But, certainly workable any way you go. You can't go wrong with Rumble(s).

Currently I play in a unique trio; guitar, cajon drummer and myself. We do our own PA, and I always have the option to go thru the PA (and often do.) My 100c has been enough for 95% of our gigs.

Once drummer brought the kit; 100 was almost enough. PA support, so just wish I had a little more stage volume. Another brewery gig we play has a big sprawling lawn, I felt like i could use a little more power....

Also thinking long game here. This drummer may leave and we'll have a kit drummer to balance with, or I may leave and join another band with a kit drummer. Just want to explore options.

At this point, I'm leaning 200c. Thanks for the input @G-Dog !

 

[GonePlaid]

Very nice, @GonePlaid . Your bass playing sounded great. The BL must know you well since he stuck you way back in the corner...to keep you away from that singer .

Singer's BF was playing 3rd trombone.

 

[GonePlaid]

Wow! Really boppin' the bass big time. Rumble 200, right? Killer tone. Rumble On!

Exactly! And thanks.

 

[GonePlaid]

Who woulda thunk it? The OD on the Rumble is very good for guitar! This may have been covered in this lengthy thread but I'm very surprised how good it is. I had a little spare time so I compared it to an Egnater Tweaker 15 all tube head and my Fulltone 500. I tell ya - I like the OD on the Rumble better for guitar than even the Egnater or Fulltone! I know this comes down to sheer opinion and taste but I though it would be a slam dunk that the Rumble's solid state OD wouldn't have a chance against all tube or MOSFET but she really does have a great sound. I'm thinking the Rumble can be a "do it all" amp for me covering both bass and guitar duties. The only thing I'd add when using guitar through it is perhaps a reverb pedal. One man's opinion!

And that's exactly it! What works for you is what's importantest(?).

 

[Linnin]

At this point, I'm leaning 200c.

The 200 combo is my favorite Rumble. Add the Rumble 115 when needed or wanted. Keep the 100 for a stage monitor. Pop it on a Mudstand and aim it at the drummer. He'll be forever grateful.

 

[Linnin]

Thanks @Linnin ! So glad you're back

Eventually I'll be banned forever, but until that time comes I'll just continue to annoy some folks to no end. It's a gift.

 

[mesaplayer83]

The 200 combo is my favorite Rumble. Add the Rumble 115 when needed or wanted. Keep the 100 for a stage monitor. Pop it on a Mudstand and aim it at the drummer. He'll be forever grateful.

I prefer the 200 Combo, too - although when needed, I combine it with a Bassman 115 Neo cab... That setup will get surprisingly loud for 200 watts, and sounds great...

 

[MaxC]

Iv played with several guitarist and a keyboardist that played through BassMan’s and swore by them.
No reason a Rumbler wouldnt work equally well.

 

[CallMeAl]

The 200 combo is my favorite Rumble. Add the Rumble 115 when needed or wanted. Keep the 100 for a stage monitor. Pop it on a Mudstand and aim it at the drummer. He'll be forever grateful.

My guitar player has a 15 cab sitting in the practice space, just waiting to get rumbled!

 

[tom dicus]

Currently I play in a unique trio; guitar, cajon drummer and myself. We do our own PA, and I always have the option to go thru the PA (and often do.) My 100c has been enough for 95% of our gigs.

Once drummer brought the kit; 100 was almost enough. PA support, so just wish I had a little more stage volume. Another brewery gig we play has a big sprawling lawn, I felt like i could use a little more power....

Also thinking long game here. This drummer may leave and we'll have a kit drummer to balance with, or I may leave and join another band with a kit drummer. Just want to explore options.

At this point, I'm leaning 200c. Thanks for the input @G-Dog !

The Rumble 200c with a 115 and a P bass is magical!!!
You'll love the combination!