I think GlennA was using a Rumble 500 head for the test, but I don't remember. It's back there quite far.
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It does appear to be a Rumble 500 and that all makes sense, thanks!
I'm gonna take some time today to play with effects and EQ.
. . . . I'm gonna take some time today to play with effects and EQ.
May I recommend that you consult the Fender Rumble Club TONE POOL for suggested settings? You're also welcome to add your own settings. We love to share.
I'm definitely going to check out some of these. My settings are usually just more mids with or without a lot of overdrive. But maybe there's something I can contribute.
I had already tried a Studio 40 at the Fender dealer when I read "studio quality digital effects" on here, which is why I was laughing & had to respond to that (which I think is when Linnin blocked me)!
That claim is wildly inaccurate!
but he also claims Rumbles aren't scooped:
What does "scooped" mean and why would Fender build this in?
See the 4 dB dip at 600 Hertz?
I'm not sure why almost every amp on Earth is scooped either
Are you using any of the built-in effects?
I'm not sure why almost every amp on Earth is scooped either
Are you using any of the built-in effects?
See the 4 dB dip at 600 Hertz?
I'm not sure why almost every amp on Earth is scooped either
IMO, it’s because the baked-in basic tone of an amp is what captures a potential buyer.
How many posts do we see on this and other forums that say, “It was easy to get my tone with a [such-and-such] amp. Didn’t need to twiddle any knobs.” Most people don’t know what their EQ controls do, nor what the effect is on the sound when any of them are changed. Add to that the understanding that many tone stacks - with some exceptions - have controls that are interactive (changes on one control affects the other controls), and it becomes confusing to many players.
Some players have a predisposition to learn about these things. Most players, in my experience, don’t. They like “plug and play”, especially when there’s no time at a gig to optimize their tone for a particular room.
That’s why you have “Ampeg guys”, “Fender guys”, “Aguilar guys”, “GK guys”, “MarkBass guys”, etc. The baked-in amp tone suits their needs, wants, and likes.
I have to agree with this because I re-read the WiKi and related posts only to confirm that there is no definitive answer to the Fender "scooped" question. It's either yes it is, no it isn't, perhaps, depends, it's pickups, strings or EQ.
Apparently it is a popcorn question where anyone's opinion is just that! I keep thinking back to the old days when amps had a volume knob and a tone knob. Questions like "scooped" didn't exist. Now, as back then, I will let my ears decide
.Oh, and Happy Fender Friday
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So I have the Studio 40. I have never been a big effects guy. I could never dial in anything that I liked. Always seemed like it was too much or too little. Most likley do to the fact I had no idea what I was doing. Take this for what it is worth but, I do have to say that I now use effects more than I ever did. I have found with the Studio that I can easily dial in the effect I like and have it sit in the mix at just the right spot. Also for me, a lot of the preset are right where I would want them and if I wanted to tweak it a bit it was very easy to do. Just to note I am kind of a minimalist so to have everything built-in is perfect for me.
Have you ever tried using the expression pedal with yours?
Not in the case of the Rumble graph I posted. You feed a flat signal in & get that U shape out = not flat, but scooped.
I'm not saying Fender is the only one, many brands do it & the only one I know that doesn't is Aguilar, but they drop off the curve after 3 kHz, which puzzles me as well. My Aguilar head sounded awful for guitar, now I know why.
G-K also scoops by default & the knob settings for "real flat" have been posted in the huge G-K thread.
It's not a matter of opinions, it's facts that have been supported with graphs.
Not in the case of the Rumble graph I posted. You feed a flat signal in & get that U shape out = not flat, but scooped.
I'm not saying Fender is the only one, many brands do it & the only one I know that doesn't is Aguilar, but they drop off the curve after 3 kHz, which puzzles me as well. My Aguilar head sounded awful for guitar, now I know why.
G-K also scoops by default & the knob settings for "real flat" have been posted in the huge G-K thread.
It's not a matter of opinions, it's facts that have been supported with graphs.
I am certainly not disagreeing with you, KBD, just trying to understand what this does to the sound of my bass and why the manufacturers do it. I took 50 years off from playing bass so I am a novice
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That graph got a pretty wild response from the kingpin on here, basically calling it a lie.
If it's any correlation he also claimed that my Aguilar head into a MarkBass cabinet was lacking mids.
Everyone else who actually owns either of those will attest that Aguilar or MarkBass are mid-forward or actually more flat than Fender or G-K.
If it's any correlation he also claimed that my Aguilar head into a MarkBass cabinet was lacking mids.
Everyone else who actually owns either of those will attest that Aguilar or MarkBass are mid-forward or actually more flat than Fender or G-K.
I've been meaning to try it, but so far have not.
I've connected my phone by BT, but didn't see much in the app besides the downloads.
TBH I never used it on my old Peavey Vypyr VIP either & that one had a program for your computer where you manipulate all the controls from your screen.
I was surprised when there wan't a program like that for the micro-USB connection on the Studio 40.
Many Fender guitar amps have Fuse software support.
I think the Bronco bass amp does also.
I've connected my phone by BT, but didn't see much in the app besides the downloads.
TBH I never used it on my old Peavey Vypyr VIP either & that one had a program for your computer where you manipulate all the controls from your screen.
I was surprised when there wan't a program like that for the micro-USB connection on the Studio 40.
Many Fender guitar amps have Fuse software support.
I think the Bronco bass amp does also.
I once thought my B-DEC modeling bass amp could use the Fuse software, but it doesn't. The 4-button footswitch helps A LOT with the B-DEC, though, which I would expect is the same with the Stage & Studio.
But, if I'm correct in thinking the Tone App can, pretty much, completely control the Stage & Studio, then that (depending on the ease-of-use of the interface) could be much easier than using The Knob(s). IDK
But, if I'm correct in thinking the Tone App can, pretty much, completely control the Stage & Studio, then that (depending on the ease-of-use of the interface) could be much easier than using The Knob(s). IDK
I'm going through mine right, you've got:
<presets> loading & editing installed presets
<setlists>
<download>
<settings>:
tuner
EQ settings (global ones like "bright boost" or "low cut")
backup/restore
Tips
Inside presets you can do all the manipulation of the controls.
<presets> loading & editing installed presets
<setlists>
<download>
<settings>:
tuner
EQ settings (global ones like "bright boost" or "low cut")
backup/restore
Tips
Inside presets you can do all the manipulation of the controls.
Is that thru the App? How easy is it to manipulate the controls of a preset?
