Fender Rumble Club

[GonePlaid]

Ok so I went to guitar center again and this time, I hooked up the 1x15 to the 500c and I wasn't able to reproduce the crackling sound. Maybe because I didn't need the gain or master up as loud with the two together. Had the gain at 9 o'clock as suggested here, master around 11 o'clock and I backed the bass down to 10 o'clock.

The pair sounded so killer together that when I unplugged the 1x15 and played the 500c by itself and then went to the 200c and played it by itself, it just wasn't the same. That full 500 watts and the combo of the 10s and 15 spoiled me, so I bought the 1x15! $199, couldn't pass that up. Have to wait 3 weeks to pick it up but I can't wait.

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That's something(among many)that bugs me about GC. If ya can't take it for X weeks, don't put it out on the floor 'til the day b4 it's actually available. I passed on an amp I liked 'cos I couldn't get it for 2 weeks. I needed it within 2 days. So Able Mike Fox.

 

[mbell75]

Might be a silly question but Ive never owned a combo and an extension cab before. If I am using both and go direct out, is the full 500 watts going out or just the 350 watts from the combo?

 

[GonePlaid]

Might be a silly question but Ive never owned a combo and an extension cab before. If I am using both and go direct out, is the full 500 watts going out or just the 350 watts from the combo?

500W. Like my 200c, I only get 200W when I hook up the 112 extension, otherwise 140W, which is more than enuff for 95% of our gigs.

 

[Linnin]

Might be a silly question but Ive never owned a combo and an extension cab before. If I am using both and go direct out, is the full 500 watts going out or just the 350 watts from the combo?

Might be a silly question but Ive never owned a combo and an extension cab before. If I am using both and go direct out, is the full 500 watts going out or just the 350 watts from the combo?

A full 500 watts are going out from your amp to your speakers into the room. From your XRL Out = Zero (0) Watts to the board. It's a mic level output.

 

[richwag]

Might be a silly question but Ive never owned a combo and an extension cab before. If I am using both and go direct out, is the full 500 watts going out or just the 350 watts from the combo?

Direct out doesn't affect power at all. If you're using an extension cab, you're getting the full 500 watts.

 

[mbell75]

A full 500 watts are going out from your amp to your speakers into the room. From your XRL Out = Zero (0) Watts to the board. It's a mic level output.

So if I’m going direct to the sound guy, there’s no reason to bring the extension cab right? Unless I just want to amuse myself on stage I guess.

 

[GonePlaid]

Most places we play, my 200c is more than enough, but there's one place I occasionally take my 112 just 'cos I love the sound of the 15"/12"combination. We haven't gone through a PA in at least a year and a half.

 

[mbell75]

Most places we play, my 200c is more than enough, but there's one place I occasionally take my 112 just 'cos I love the sound of the 15"/12"combination. We haven't gone through a PA in at least a year and a half.

Right, it’s not really about volume at all for me as the 500c is more than enough for the small to medium sized places we play. It’s about the fullness of the tone, one completes the other. Like peanut butter and jelly!

 

[Giffro]

Or Vegemite and Cheese lolll

 

[bdplaid]

Congratulations! I have the same setup. I think the 500c pairs beautifully with the 1x15 cabinet.

You should try it with another 210 cab. Beef. That is all.

 

[Kipp Harrington]

I’m happy too!

 

[GonePlaid]

Or Vegemite and Cheese lolll

Yep, he's back.

 

[Giffro]

Yep, he's back.

We ol blokes gotta hang together...Vegemite and Cheese notwithstanding lol

 

[dORSY]

500W. Like my 200c, I only get 200W when I hook up the 112 extension, otherwise 140W, which is more than enuff for 95% of our gigs.

I guess what people are really confused about is Wattage in general.
I know that this is really oversimplified and not considering a lot of factors there, but to have twice as much volume You need 10 times the power for the same speakers.

"-Doubling the power output (watts) will result in a 3 dB increase in loudness.
-A ten times increase to the power output will result in a 10 dB increase, or sound that is twice as loud."

 

[G-Dog]

I guess what people are really confused about is Wattage in general. ... .... ... ...

I think what many musicians are really confused about is the unintuitive math involved with electricity in general. Wattage, impedance (ohms), signal versus power levels, input/output, gain versus volume, various ratings versus sales hype; it can seem like part of the mystic arts. No wonder some wish to avoid the distraction of electric instruments entirely to concentrate on music, itself.

For those who wish to learn enough about electrical amplification to use it with confidence there are ample resources online. For those with a certain technical question, if not always correctly phrased, there are online forums like TalkBass.

For those of us who aspire to assist others through this texting environment, it can be a fine line between seeming arrogant or irritable. But, it's nice when the right communication is made and enlightenment and fellowship ensues. That's why we continue to ... ...

Rumble On!​

 

[CaptainBoxman]

So I tried a 40w out in my local shop to test run my bass after a set up.

It sounded a little boomy and...lacking in clarity with a flat E.Q. I have a shortscale PJ Mustang Bass and the P bass pickups especially were just really boomy (I can't think of another word, sorry). Have people experienced this before, and it's just something like "Oh yeah, roll back on the bass knob champ, they all do that" or a doomed relationship between my bass and the Rumble?

 

[dORSY]

So I tried a 40w out in my local shop to test run my bass after a set up.

It sounded a little boomy and...lacking in clarity with a flat E.Q.

Depends on what You are looking for.
Rumble Flat
There is somewhere a discussion in this thread about how to set the eq for flat freq response.

I like my 100c a bit boomy, altough I just stuffed some foam in it, so it's just not that "boxy".

 

[GonePlaid]

So I tried a 40w out in my local shop to test run my bass after a set up.

It sounded a little boomy and...lacking in clarity with a flat E.Q. I have a shortscale PJ Mustang Bass and the P bass pickups especially were just really boomy (I can't think of another word, sorry). Have people experienced this before, and it's just something like "Oh yeah, roll back on the bass knob champ, they all do that" or a doomed relationship between my bass and the Rumble?

I have found that I usually need to roll of a little bit of 'bass' on all o' my Rumbles. I'm from the days of '1-10' on the knobs so having center be 'flat' is still a little foreign. Having the capability of a helluva lotta bottom is kind of a novelty. Doesn't mean I gotta use it.
For example, on my original bass amps(2 of these), I ran bass @ 8-10, Treble @ 4-5 and 'presence' @ 7-10. Comparable numbers on my Rumbles would be(approximately-I don't have the piggyback Bassmans to compare ) Vintage-on, B-10[o'clock], both mids-2-ish, T-10+/-, Bright-on.

 

[TheDayMan]

So I tried a 40w out in my local shop to test run my bass after a set up.

It sounded a little boomy and...lacking in clarity with a flat E.Q. I have a shortscale PJ Mustang Bass and the P bass pickups especially were just really boomy (I can't think of another word, sorry). Have people experienced this before, and it's just something like "Oh yeah, roll back on the bass knob champ, they all do that" or a doomed relationship between my bass and the Rumble?

Was the “vintage” effect on? I’ve found that gives me an undesirable boomyness.

 

[G-Dog]

So I tried a 40w out in my local shop to test run my bass after a set up.

It sounded a little boomy and...lacking in clarity with a flat E.Q. I have a shortscale PJ Mustang Bass and the P bass pickups especially were just really boomy (I can't think of another word, sorry). Have people experienced this before, and it's just something like "Oh yeah, roll back on the bass knob champ, they all do that" or a doomed relationship between my bass and the Rumble?

... ... There is somewhere a discussion in this thread about how to set the eq for flat freq response.

I like my 100c a bit boomy, altough I just stuffed some foam in it, so it's just not that "boxy".

There is a link to Rumble flat settings on the Rumble Wiki page (linked in my signature) near the TONE POOL link.