Fender Rumble Club

[Linnin]

Hey guys its me got hacked and had to start over with new acct. Getting ready to pick up the v3 40 for church. Trading a cab for it. Linnin thanks for neing the keeper of the Rumble Flame. Played my 500 with my 15 cab New Years gig man I fall in love over and over when I fire that up.

Great to see you back, hotbass57! Please be sure to let us know how you like the Rumble 40.

Y'all are a great group of bass players, and it's a pleasure to be the official Rumble Club Greeter, and keeper of the member roster.

 

[jumblemind]

But ultimately, the best value is the 500 combo with the extension.
A 500 head with 2 x 210 runs $1100
But the combo and 210 runs $850 for essentially the same thing, with the added advantage of having the head attached (one less item to lug in), and only needing 1 cable. That's a steal.

Yep, definitely something I've contemplated, but having the head attached isn't always an advantage. One thing I don't like about a combo is that if my amp goes out, I'm SOL unless I'm carrying another combo or another amp and speaker rig with me. With separate head and cab, if my amp goes out I just switch to the backup amp I keep in my cable bag. Not that these worry me especially, just that it's happened to me enough (with very different kinds of amps) to get better value from paying a little more. And even if I never touch the knobs, I like to look at 'em . Not to mention, that NEO 610 gas may get the better of me someday, and I'll be prepared...

Lucky for us, Fender has us both covered.

 

[jumblemind]

Which just goes to show ya "Eat all your veggies. And don't bang the dillies."

Amen to that. Wa da ta, my dommies.

 

[Linnin]

Hey all. I've followed this thread a bit since I just acquired my first bass and will be needing an amp. I've played guitar for years, and I'm thinking about a light-weight dual purpose amp so I can just take a single amp to practice sessions and use for guitar and bass. I'd be using "amp in a box" pedals for overdrive tones with the guitar. I'd considered the Ampeg Micro VR since it has the Ampeg SVT type voicing that guitarists have bonded with in the past. And I'm also considering the V3 Rumbles. Any thoughts or experience on running guitar through the 100, 200, or 500 models?

Hi McQ7! I don't want your question to get lost in the excitement of new Rumble cabs. I don't play guitar so I can't help you there, but the Rumble 100 strikes me as the best multipurpose amp of the line. What are your needs for a bass amp? Are you going to be the primary bass player in a band?

 

[bdplaid]

Multipurpose amp: didn't Jimmy Paige play through an SVT from time to time?

As for the 210 vs 410: I'm SO done with 410s. They sound great, but only when you can hear them. Usually, that's 8+ feet in front of you (can't fight physics). Also, 65 - 100+ pounds is over with for me. Want to talk sprained ankle? I did a number on mine over 30 years carrying - guess what? It's still stiff. I used to have two 210 cabs and occasionally stacked them vertically. despite it being Peavey, it sounded great, probably because I could actually hear it. I'm looking forward to a two 210 stack that I can hear and actually sounds good, like the Rumble. And, since I also have the 500 head, I'll carry that in a bag as a backup in case of trouble.

 

[riverasampayo]

Hi, trying to find a good setting for slapping. Got an ESP LTD D-5 driving a 500 V3 Combo. Any help will be appreciated.

 

[Smoove-Groove]

Hi, trying to find a good setting for slapping. Got an ESP LTD D-5 driving a 500 V3 Combo. Any help will be appreciated.

Contour button activated. All EQ set at noon.

 

[Linnin]

Hi, trying to find a good setting for slapping. Got an ESP LTD D-5 driving a 500 V3 Combo. Any help will be appreciated.

Welcome to the Fender Rumble Club, riverasampayo! You are member #337
For slap you want good clean power for fast transient response, so keep you gain down around 9 o'clock or less. Use your master to get the volume you need. With all tone controls at noon, engage both the contour and bright buttons.

 

[riverasampayo]

Welcome to the Fender Rumble Club, riverasampayo! You are member #337
For slap you want good clean power for fast transient response, so keep you gain down around 9 o'clock or less. Use your master to get the volume you need. With all tone controls at noon, engage both the contour and bright buttons.

Thx, BTW;

Anyone has tested the V3 2x10 700 watts cabinet? Planning an extension now.

 

[Linnin]

Thx, BTW;

Anyone has tested the V3 2x10 700 watts cabinet? Planning an extension now.

You're welcome. The Rumble 210 is brand new just being announced at Winter NAMM a few days ago. These are going to be in very high demand and my advice is to place a pre-order now, and sit back and wait patiently.

 

[Orangeclawhammr]

Hey guys its me got hacked and had to start over with new acct. Getting ready to pick up the v3 40 for church. Trading a cab for it. Linnin thanks for neing the keeper of the Rumble Flame. Played my 500 with my 15 cab New Years gig man I fall in love over and over when I fire that up.

Be real careful lifting that Fumble 40. It's nowhere as heavy as it looks. If you are not careful, you'll use too much force and send it through the ceiling. It's like lifting a bucket of air. And this is from a man with no upper body strength. You're gonna love that little amp!

 

[hotbass57*123]

Be real careful lifting that Fumble 40. It's nowhere as heavy as it looks. If you are not careful, you'll use too much force and send it through the ceiling. It's like lifting a bucket of air. And this is from a man with no upper body strength. You're gonna love that little amp!

Thanks I will lol!

 

[nutdog]

Who says you can't gig with a 100 watt combo? Our oldies group plays for this church senior group once of twice a year. They love us. A room with seating for about 200. We just run vocals, keys and acoustic in the PA. The v3 112 carried the bass. We were on a little riser and it was kind of boomy. I meant to press the vintage button but forgot. I have sound man duties as well and our regular mixer is in for repair so it was little hectic setting up on a Tuesday night after work before the dinner crowd showed up.

 

[McQ7]

Love that video demonstrating the capability of the 112 V3 100W combo, thanks for posting! For some gigs I might be the main bass player, so I'd like something that can handle playing with a drummer for practice. Most places here run through the PA, so I'm not concerned with filling a room necessarily, just being able to keep up with drums. I've gathered that some can get the Micro VR to do that if they let it do what its SVT-type thing does best, which is live in a punchy mids realm (mids being heard when a scooped set up will not be). Would the Rumble 100 V3 be able to get a similar thing going on? So many options with the vintage, bright, contour, low-mid and high-mid knobs!

 

[nutdog]

I've had a couple of the svt210av cabs and really like them, too. Didn't have the micro head, though, used some different 500 watt heads. Hard to say which tone will work best for you. Depends on the drummer but for reasonable volumes either should keep up for practice. For me the convenience/weight/cost of the rumble is a big plus.

 

[Clark Westfield]

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A pair of 210 cabs runs $700. That buys you a diagonally staggered vertical array of 10's vs the quad box of a 410 ($400). They move the same amount of air. The stack is easier for you (and the rest of the band) to hear.

The big deal is going from an 8 ohm load to a 4 ohm load and from 350 to a full 500 watts.
210 cabs are obviously smaller and lighter to move than the 410. They also present a smaller footprint on stage. As far as sound quality goes, it should be extremely close.

Modularity is a plus with any pair of smaller cabinets. Small bar gig? Only need 210s? You got it. Or leave a cab at rehearsal and one at home and just carry the head back and forth.

However, need maximum SPL? Rumble 410 x 2 to the rescue! Only $800. It all depends on your need.

I'm already running a 500 head with a 410.

Would a 210 cab benefit lifting the sound higher toward the ear?

Would splitting the 500 watts hurt or help?

 

[jumblemind]

I'm already running a 500 head with a 410.

Would a 210 cab benefit lifting the sound higher toward the ear?

Would splitting the 500 watts hurt or help?

Yes, definitely would benefit getting higher toward the ear.

You aren't splitting the 500 watts, you are getting the full 500 watts with two cabs. With the 410 cab at 8ohm your head is putting out a max of 300w or thereabouts. The only way it would potentially "hurt" adding the 210 is that you are splitting 250w to each cab, splitting the power evenly among the speakers in each one. So each speaker in the 210 will be getting twice the power of any of the individual speakers in the 410, which means they would crap out well before the speakers in the 410 if you were reaaallly cranking things. That just means you need to be careful with cranking and listen in case those 210 speakers start getting farty/pushed to hard. There again, with the 210 on top and closer to your ear, you're in a better position to hear that.

 

[jumblemind]

Love that video demonstrating the capability of the 112 V3 100W combo, thanks for posting! For some gigs I might be the main bass player, so I'd like something that can handle playing with a drummer for practice. Most places here run through the PA, so I'm not concerned with filling a room necessarily, just being able to keep up with drums. I've gathered that some can get the Micro VR to do that if they let it do what its SVT-type thing does best, which is live in a punchy mids realm (mids being heard when a scooped set up will not be). Would the Rumble 100 V3 be able to get a similar thing going on? So many options with the vintage, bright, contour, low-mid and high-mid knobs!

So much of the MicroVR's sound and punch comes from the 210AV cab. It's sealed and has two 10" speakers, so it's very tight and focused in the mids and "throws" very well. With two of the cabs, it's very capable. I've played lots of gigs with both setups, even had a single cab carry a big, boomy room in a guitar-bass-drums setup that had a reasonable guitar player.

The Rumble 100 combo only has a single 12" speaker, so you have less speaker area than the MicroVR cab, which is your major volume component. It in all likelihood has more low end feel, though, and like you said the Rumbles have voicing options that cut through mixes much better than a lot of amps I've played. But I still think a single speaker is going to be the limiting factor in keeping up with drums.

 

[Clark Westfield]

Yes, definitely would benefit getting higher toward the ear.

You aren't splitting the 500 watts, you are getting the full 500 watts with two cabs. With the 410 cab at 8ohm your head is putting out a max of 300w or thereabouts. The only way it would potentially "hurt" adding the 210 is that you are splitting 250w to each cab, splitting the power evenly among the speakers in each one. So each speaker in the 210 will be getting twice the power of any of the individual speakers in the 410, which means they would crap out well before the speakers in the 410 if you were reaaallly cranking things. That just means you need to be careful with cranking and listen in case those 210 speakers start getting farty/pushed to hard. There again, with the 210 on top and closer to your ear, you're in a better position to hear that.

Well let me tell you, even with my drummer, Johney Gorillia sticks, I have never pushed the amp past 4.

If just 250 would be the max output to each cab, with more speakers, i would not have to push the rig even farther into the death zone. Correct?

Would one cabinet be noticeably louder than the other, or would it just blend nicely?

 

[Linnin]

Well let me tell you, even with my drummer, Johney Gorillia sticks, I have never pushed the amp past 4.

If just 250 would be the max output to each cab, with more speakers, i would not have to push the rig even farther into the death zone. Correct?

Would one cabinet be noticeably louder than the other, or would it just blend nicely?

Yes, that is correct, and yes they will blend nicely without issue.

You're not pushing that 410 very hard at all. Grab a sturdy wooden piano bench about 19-20" tall, and pop your 410 on top of that, and everyone will hear you better.

Or for a more rock 'n' roll appearance for just $50 more than the 210 just opt for another 410. Impressive stack that everybody is going hear without any problem at all.