Container ships truly are slow boats from China, and Indonesia isn't any closer.
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I ordered a 210 cab from fender web site on feb. 2 after reading here that fender had added ordering direct to there web site and were show the 210 ready to order. Got my email yesterday that said it shipped and tracking # says it will be here Monday the 9th.
Got my 210 500 rumble back in july. Loving it!! cant wait to hear this with the xtra cab!!
Guess I need a club # Linnin.
Much thanks to all who post here, your advice in this thread is what lead me to go look at the rumble's back in june and july when I was amp hunting.
Hook
Got my 210 500 rumble back in july. Loving it!! cant wait to hear this with the xtra cab!!
Guess I need a club # Linnin.
Much thanks to all who post here, your advice in this thread is what lead me to go look at the rumble's back in june and july when I was amp hunting.
Hook
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WOOT! Welcome to the Fender Rumble Club, Grayhook!
You are member #342 
Please do give us a review as you very well may be the first club member with the new Rumble 210 drool
Rumbles Rule, Baby! Yes They Do 
That's awesome news! I guess the info from Sweetwater was incorrect, and I do wish I had ordered a 210 cab from Fender. And yes, we're all eager to hear your review!
Bob
It's around 3 weeks from Indonesia to Long Beach/L.A., not including the time it takes at port to unload, clear customs, and drayage to their warehouse. Like I said earlier, the west coast ports are a disaster right now. There are signs that the main issues will be resolved soon, but it will still be some time before the congestion is relieved. The fact that Fender has product available is a really good sign, however.
Very likely. I hear there are some importers doing just that, and some are even using Canadian ports.
#342 sweet! Thanks Linnin.
Be glad to give you guys a review.
But I am a total nub at playing bass. Only been playing for 13 mo. so don't expect to much. I'll do the best I can.
I do play with a group of friends. A drummer and two guitar players, all who think that loud is good and louder is better! The 500 combo keeps up with them with some to spare. Don't really need the xtra cab atm but gassing hard for it! Mostly looking to get the sound up closer to my ear so i can hear it. We play in a small room and i'm all ways stuck standing right in front of my amp and can barely hear myself. We will be jamming the weekend of the 14th. (Cant wate to run there butts out of the room with my new added cab! lol) So I can give my report then.
Be glad to give you guys a review.
But I am a total nub at playing bass. Only been playing for 13 mo. so don't expect to much. I'll do the best I can.
I do play with a group of friends. A drummer and two guitar players, all who think that loud is good and louder is better! The 500 combo keeps up with them with some to spare. Don't really need the xtra cab atm but gassing hard for it! Mostly looking to get the sound up closer to my ear so i can hear it. We play in a small room and i'm all ways stuck standing right in front of my amp and can barely hear myself. We will be jamming the weekend of the 14th. (Cant wate to run there butts out of the room with my new added cab! lol) So I can give my report then.
Worry not, Grayhook, we're all family here and Fender is our middle name.
Trucks run from Fender's Ensenada, Mexico plant to Fender's Ontario, California Distribution Center everyday. I just checked the map, and guess what? Ensenada is a Pacific port city!
Trucks run from Fender's Ensenada, Mexico plant to Fender's Ontario, California Distribution Center everyday. I just checked the map, and guess what? Ensenada is a Pacific port city!
Yup, this is true. With their supply chain already in place in Mexico, it shouldn't be much of an issue to do this. It might be a little bit more expensive, but worth it.
The political/labor problems with the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach (effectively one large port) has global repercussions.
I think it is an issue to change ports.
Port Hueneme, a little less than 100 miles north of LA/LB has better logistics and is already set up to off-load cars headed from Asia to USA, but they may share the same labor issues as their brothers to the southeast.
I think it is an issue to change ports.
- The port of Ensenada has a tiny fraction of the capacity of the Port of Los Angeles/Long Beach and it looks like little to none of that capacity is being used to ameliorate the LA/LB problem. A quick glance at Invalid Link Removed shows 287 ships currently in or off of LA/LB and 5 ships off Ensenada, most of which are Mexican registry. More telling is the number of ships anchored outside LA/LB in an orderly pattern.
- The shipping manifest has the port of entry listed. This is not easy to change once the ship has been loaded.
- Fender does not take up an entire container ship. They share that ship with containers from many different companies, going to many different companies. I would think there would need to be a consensus to change port-of-entry.
- The road from Ensenada to San Diego isn't all that great of a road. Never more than 2 lanes in each direction. There is a twisty mountain pass section.
- Getting trucks across the border is most definitely an issue.
Port Hueneme, a little less than 100 miles north of LA/LB has better logistics and is already set up to off-load cars headed from Asia to USA, but they may share the same labor issues as their brothers to the southeast.
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I wonder if Fender's Ensenada product is actually put on container ships to go north to L.A. also. I have no clue what the railroad situation might be like. Hmmmm
I didn't realize what a big deal this port crisis really is. Here's the union's take on it.
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Ok, hopefully this doesn't get too off topic.......
Fender could and most likely does have containers going into Mexico. The port is dependent on where the vessel calls, it doesn't have to be Ensenada, and they would have to plan ahead, meaning they would book the container to go to Mexico before it leaves, not while the boat is on the water. No one said that Fender would "take up an entire container ship", especially since most container ships have container space in the thousands. Also, no company would divert a container ship, only the owner of the ship, usually a company like Hapag Lloyd, or MSC, or Yang Ming, can do that, and they would not do it for Fender or anyone else. Fender has a facility in Ensenada and does ship to-from there regularly, so they most likely have all of their logistics issues squared away.
And yes, the situation at the all the west coast ports is serious, not just LA/LB terminals. It could be resolved today. I don't want to get into the details, 1) I spend all day talking about it and 2) when there's a union involved there is politics just on the horizon.
So, to bring it back on topic. Zzounds tells me that they shipped my Rumble 500 yesterday, but they are waiting for Fed Ex to update with a tracking number. Not sure why they don't have one, maybe Fed Ex handles distribution for them, I don't know. We shall see.
Big Hoss
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What about the Port of Portland? Portland Or isn't too far as the crow flies from LA if you need to get your material on shore and moving...
Big Hoss
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I would love to both see, and hear that combined rig when you get the extension cab in...
What cable are you going to use for the connection? I would assume a 1/4 to Speakon speaker cable correct?
All west coast U.S. ports are affected, everything from the typical container terminals to oil & grain terminals. Also, container vessels usually stop at LA/LB first, then head north to Oakland and on up, depending on the vessel and it's sailing schedule. Some go the other way, but the congestion issues have delayed things across the board. Shipping into another west coast port isn't going to help much, sadly.
This is correct. The Pacific Maritime Association manages (or mismanages) all U.S. west coast ports, and the Longshoreman's Union lack of a contract has led to labor slowdowns. PMA has eliminated the sorely needed night shift, and there are other allegations of mismanagement. Sweetwater puts it this way, "Fender has informed us that this item has an unusually long shipping delay." It's really an unloading delay as containers full of much wanted product sit on anchored ships waiting their turn to be unloaded. I put in a call to Fender for an official response, but I don't actually expect one.
That covers the basics, yup. Curious to see if Fender gives you an answer, though it's not like it's a big secret and everyone that has import or export freight through the west coast is affected.
