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Fender Rumble Club

#4,023
Well, now I am frustrated.... My cab is here, and it's beautiful to look at... But alas, no cable yet...

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Lync said:
Right-great description...it was not truly "farting"...just a growl that was not deep and clean like the higher strings.
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I did some more experimenting. In house practice volume, gain at noon, eq all at noon and master at 9. Contour button in and the B sounds good with my passive Precision V. I think I need a bigger room if I am going to use the vintage button with the low B.
 
#4,028
bdplaid said:
seriously, I'd have been on my way to GC to get a cable - any cable - just to hear it.
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I was trying to get to DannyDs but they close at 7, and I had to make sure the cab got IN the house... UPS leaving something with the Fender logo on it on the front porch is an engraved invitation for theft...
 
#4,033
Hey Fellas, can I join the club????? I just picked up the Fender Rumble 500 combo. I had the chance to gig with my buddy's Rumble 200 combo and I was very impressed with how the low end filled the room. Something about when the sound is right, the music sounds sweeter!!!! The 200 wasn't boomy by no means, but rich in low end tone. Now on to my purchase. I spent ALOT of time reading thru pages and pages of rave reviews for both the 200 and 500, to the point of maybe thinking that I should consider getting the 500 as well for future proofing with an extension cab. My review on the 500 should be taken with a grain of salt because everybody's preference is different in terms of what sounds good to our on ears. My style of playing is more reserved, not into slapping or popping. I play in a trio, consisting of a talented drummer and keyboardist. My style of music that I play is mix of R&B with jazz, and playing at coffee shops to bars.

I haven't had an opportunity to gig with the 500 yet, but just in comparing the 500 vs the 200 is very subjective. I'm having a difficult time trying to dial in the tone on the 500, and maybe that's were research will come into play as well as trial and error. With the 200, it was just small adjustments and away I went. Yes, I got very spoiled by the 200.... But I'm not going to rule out adding a 15 extension cab to help fill in that low end I'm REALLY missing..... I'll share my settings of what I have so far... If anyone has any suggestions, please feel free to comment. Gain at 9 oclock, drive and level at 7 oclock, Bass at 3 oclock, Low mid at 9 oclock, high mid at 7 oclock, treble at 7 oclock, volume at 9 oclock.... Bright, contour and vintage are off.......... At times, I hear a little distortion, and I don't want to use the word "farting" because it isn't that major. And again, it could be an error on my part for something not being adjusted correctly.

One big plus is the weight... Moving my friends 200 combo up two flights of steps was a breeze, the drummer on the other hand was pissed!!!!! LMAO.......

Having played both, and until I can dial in my tone on the 500, I'm still leaning towards the 200.... Volume wise, the 500 is a little louder in the lower mids and highs, but to me, the E string notes are missing the depth. I hope that this makes sense to everyone.
 
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Sub Freq said:
I'm having a difficult time trying to dial in the tone on the 500, and maybe that's were research will come into play as well as trial and error. With the 200, it was just small adjustments and away I went. Yes, I got very spoiled by the 200.... But I'm not going to rule out adding a 15 extension cab to help fill in that low end I'm REALLY missing..... I'll share my settings of what I have so far... If anyone has any suggestions, please feel free to comment. Gain at 9 oclock, drive and level at 7 oclock, Bass at 3 oclock, Low mid at 9 oclock, high mid at 7 oclock, treble at 7 oclock, volume at 9 oclock.... Bright, contour and vintage are off.......... At times, I hear a little distortion, and I don't want to use the word "farting" because it isn't that major. And again, it could be an error on my part for something not being adjusted correctly.
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Hiya,
Not quite sure what you're after, but if it were me I'd simplify - first, turn off the overdrive section. To my ears, it enhances the upper mids and reduces the low end. Then I'd put everything at 12 o'clock and see what you get. If there's too much mids (sounds as though you like a scooped sound) then push the contour button. More bass? dial some in. Push the vintage button for a punchy high-bass enhancement.
Everything on the Rumbles can be used simultaneously, but be sure to use common sense. The amp definitely has the oomph to damage the speakers if you push all the bass all the way.
Another thing - you might just like the sound of the 15" speaker in the 200 better. If that's the case, and you can return the combo, then maybe get a 500 head and the 15" cab? Or just get the 200, since you seem to like it a lot. If you need more volume, get another 200 combo down line.
there's 2 cents worth, and worth every penny.
 
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Sub Freq said:
....If anyone has any suggestions, please feel free to comment. Gain at 9 oclock, drive and level at 7 oclock, Bass at 3 oclock, Low mid at 9 oclock, high mid at 7 oclock, treble at 7 oclock, volume at 9 oclock.... Bright, contour and vintage are off.......... At times, I hear a little distortion, and I don't want to use the word "farting" because it isn't that major. And again, it could be an error on my part for something not being adjusted correctly.

...Volume wise, the 500 is a little louder in the lower mids and highs, but to me, the E string notes are missing the depth. I hope that this makes sense to everyone.
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When you boost a frequency with EQ, the width of the filter gets narrower the further you push it.

I haven't played through the 500 combo, but on my 100, if I push the bass control too far, my B string gets worse instead of better. Simply put, the first overtone of the open E string is getting boosted so far, that the B string ends up sounding weaker in comparison.

With the settings you're describing, you're gutting the low mids at the same time that you're effectively raising the low-end cutoff frequency.

I don't know for sure, but I suspect that if you dial the bass back to 1 or 2 o'clock, and bring the low mids up to at least 10 o'clock, the low end will sound wider and fuller.

A lot of us go even further, cutting the bass a hair, and boosting the low mids a little. Not as wide, but very tight and punchy.
 
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bdplaid said:
Hiya,
Not quite sure what you're after, but if it were me I'd simplify - first, turn off the overdrive section. To my ears, it enhances the upper mids and reduces the low end. Then I'd put everything at 12 o'clock and see what you get. If there's too much mids (sounds as though you like a scooped sound) then push the contour button. More bass? dial some in. Push the vintage button for a punchy high-bass enhancement.
Everything on the Rumbles can be used simultaneously, but be sure to use common sense. The amp definitely has the oomph to damage the speakers if you push all the bass all the way.
Another thing - you might just like the sound of the 15" speaker in the 200 better. If that's the case, and you can return the combo, then maybe get a 500 head and the 15" cab? Or just get the 200, since you seem to like it a lot. If you need more volume, get another 200 combo down line.
there's 2 cents worth, and worth every penny.
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Hey,
Thanks for the reply. The last thing I want is to damage the amp, lol. The sound that I'm looking for is similar to Erykah Badu's "Other side of the Game, and even Robert Glasper's Lift-Off, the live version if any of this helps....
 
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steve_rolfeca said:
When you boost a frequency with EQ, the width of the filter gets narrower the further you push it.

I haven't played through the 500 combo, but on my 100, if I push the bass control too far, my B string gets worse instead of better. Simply put, the first overtone of the open E string is getting boosted so far, that the B string ends up sounding weaker in comparison.

With the settings you're describing, you're gutting the low mids at the same time that you're effectively raising the low-end cutoff frequency.

I don't know for sure, but I suspect that if you dial the bass back to 1 or 2 o'clock, and bring the low mids up to at least 10 o'clock, the low end will sound wider and fuller.

A lot of us go even further, cutting the bass a hair, and boosting the low mids a little. Not as wide, but very tight and punchy.
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Steve,
Thanks for chiming in. What you just explained makes alot of sense.
 

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