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I have a few Rumble questions.

I play with a country/rock band that gets pretty loud. We run everything through the PA with subs. I'm currently using a Peavey Headliner 1000 head and Headliner 410 cab, giving me about 700 watts.

I like the way the Rumbles sound that I tried. Would I want the 500 watt combo with an extended 210 cab?
How much better would the 500 watt combo be with the extended 410 cab?

Or, is the 800 watt Rumble Head with a couple of 8 ohm 210 cabs the better? I'm not really interested in the stage model as I have my own pedals.

Which Rumble cab works best with the 800 head?

I've heard some say the jump between the 500 to the 800 wasn't a considerable difference.

I know they only get a little more than half their power at 8 ohms.

I like the idea of the 500 combo being light and I could use it alone on smaller gigs, is what I'm thinking, and add the extended cab for bigger gigs.

From what I saw in the store it seems to have a lot of power as I start turning up the volume, but tapers off a bit as it goes up. I know the in store perception is different than having it on a gig.

Thanks!
 
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Yes, it does. In my original post I stated I would like the option to use just one amp. I experimented a bit at the music store yesterday and found that the Rumble is the only one available locally that can be set flat enough to reproduce the drums and cymbals or get a decent enough reproduction through the Aux or Send/Receive. I tried one amp that made a total mess of the drums even through the Aux input. The "character" of the amp was not restricted to just the instrument input.

Side note:
I ended up returning the R100 and hope to try an R40 when one is available locally. I'll think about a gig-worthy amp when I come to cross that river. I see some people gig with an R40 and that would probably suit the type of gigging that I would like to do (i.e., lower volume). Thank you for your suggestions.
Our group(1 or 2 guitars, drummer who doesn't play loud, and bass)plays* some smallish restaurant/lounge gigs and the 40 is enuff. And has a smaller footprint.
*well, used to play. Damn virus.:banghead:
 
thanks for the replies Dookieshoes, I'll keep working it.
While I usually respond to stuff about Rumbles(I've had my 200c since Nov. 2015), I've stayed outta this 'cos I've never used 'phones with any of them, an advantage of living alone in a detached house.
 
I have a few Rumble questions.

I play with a country/rock band that gets pretty loud. We run everything through the PA with subs. I'm currently using a Peavey Headliner 1000 head and Headliner 410 cab, giving me about 700 watts.

I like the way the Rumbles sound that I tried. Would I want the 500 watt combo with an extended 210 cab?
How much better would the 500 watt combo be with the extended 410 cab?

Or, is the 800 watt Rumble Head with a couple of 8 ohm 210 cabs the better? I'm not really interested in the stage model as I have my own pedals.

Which Rumble cab works best with the 800 head?

I've heard some say the jump between the 500 to the 800 wasn't a considerable difference.

I know they only get a little more than half their power at 8 ohms.

I like the idea of the 500 combo being light and I could use it alone on smaller gigs, is what I'm thinking, and add the extended cab for bigger gigs.

From what I saw in the store it seems to have a lot of power as I start turning up the volume, but tapers off a bit as it goes up. I know the in store perception is different than having it on a gig.

Thanks!

I bought the 500 Combo and 210 extension and have not regretted it once. I love that I can hear myself much better with the vertical 410 set up, and there is plenty of power on tap, lighter and much easier to carry. Be sure to read up on how the GAIN and MASTER VOLUME interact differently with the Rumbles as well. I think you would be extremely happy.
 
I bought the 500 Combo and 210 extension and have not regretted it once. I love that I can hear myself much better with the vertical 410 set up, and there is plenty of power on tap, lighter and much easier to carry. Be sure to read up on how the GAIN and MASTER VOLUME interact differently with the Rumbles as well. I think you would be extremely happy.

Thank you!
 
I bought the 500 Combo and 210 extension and have not regretted it once. I love that I can hear myself much better with the vertical 410 set up, and there is plenty of power on tap, lighter and much easier to carry. Be sure to read up on how the GAIN and MASTER VOLUME interact differently with the Rumbles as well. I think you would be extremely happy.
I have a 200c and a 112 cab. The coupla times I've had the "need" to run both, I loved the sound-if not the schlep-and getting the 200's 15 up where I could hear it.(I use a wedge or stand aimed toward my ears when it's alone)
 
Over the ear. If I turn master to one it starts to distort. With my 25 at lower volume the tonal range was good, now it"s all dull lows with no highs. I use me aux in with my headphones to listen to my computer and everything is fine, but when I start to play it goes to #%*&. I'm using a decent set of Sony headphones, maybe they don't have the range?
Question: what ohms are your Sony headphones? If they're under 100 (e.g., 32 ohms), they should work with plenty of volume, even on smartphones. If they're higher, like my 250 ohm headphones, you might need a headphone amp.
 
So this question has probably been asked hundreds, if not thousands of time here on the Rumble thread, but I will ask for clarification again. :)

I have a Rumble 500 Head and I currently use it with a Rumble 1x15 Cab. Currently still practicing at home but getting ready to try to get in a blues band, although I am going to hang low and continue to practice until this pandemonium passes.

Is it OK to use only the 115 with the 500W head? I think when I was checking out amps and cabs, a 115 or a 210 was suggested to go with the 500 Head.

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So if my 500W head puts out 350W at 8 Ohms, and the 115 cab is rated at 300W, is is safe to use? My assumption is as long as I do not MAX out the volume and gain, I should be OK.

Note: Edited to fix typing and grammar errors.

Thanks!
 
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So this question has probably been asked hundreds, if not thousands of time here on the Rumble thread, but I will ask for clarification again. :)

I have a Rumble 500 Head and I currently use it with a Rumble 1x15 Cab. Currently still practicing at home but getting ready to try to get in a blues band, although I am going to hang low and continue to practice until this pandemonium passes.

Is it OK to use only the 115 with the 500W head? I think when I was checking out amps and cabs, a 115 or a 410 was suggested to go thr the 500 Head.

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So if my 500W head pits out 350W at 8 Ohms, and the 115 cab is rated at 300W, is is same to use? My assumption is as long as I do not MAX out the volume and gain, I should be OK.



Thanks!
[Disclaimer] I don't work for or at 7ender, but I doubt seriously if many of us actually 'dime' our amps, so you should be OK. None of my Rumbles-40, 100, 200c-have ever had the gain over 11 or the master over 1.
 
Our group(1 or 2 guitars, drummer who doesn't play loud, and bass)plays* some smallish restaurant/lounge gigs and the 40 is enuff. And has a smaller footprint.
*well, used to play. Damn virus.:banghead:
I saw some of your posts about gigging with the R40 and they led me to the conclusion that it should be enough for me. I just picked one up and am happy with it. For me the virus means I can practice more (and do my taxes). Thanks for your posts.
 
I have a few Rumble questions. ... ...


Well, jd, you came to the right place! :thumbsup:
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... ... I play with a country/rock band that gets pretty loud. We run everything through the PA with subs. I'm currently using a Peavey Headliner 1000 head and Headliner 410 cab, giving me about 700 watts. ... ...


Wow! Pretty substantial stage monitor for everything going thru the PA! But, I understand completely. My modern country band has the same setup, and the Rumble 500 combo alone was always enough for me.

Do I understand correctly that you run just one Headliner 410 cab with the Headliner 1000 amp? If I'm seeing the correct specs for your rig you could be putting up to 700W into a 400W rated cab? You must not need to turn up the volume very far, right?
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... ... I like the way the Rumbles sound that I tried. Would I want the 500 watt combo with an extended 210 cab?
How much better would the 500 watt combo be with the extended 410 cab? ... ...


First, always remember that the terms "better" and "best" are very subjective and, therefore, are interpreted differently by different people. In music, always let your own ears guide you toward your interpretation of "better" and "best".

Other things being equal (but when does that really happen?), the 2x210 stack gives a bit better dispersion, which your audience doesn't need, and gets speakers closer to your ears, which you do need, better than the single 410 cab. [Assumes two 8 ohm 210 cabs & one 4 ohm 410 cab to get equal amp power.]

The 210 combo on top of the 410 cab gets speakers closer to your ears :D and adds more Sound Pressure Level (SPL) around your ankles :facepalm:. But any perceived greater fullness of the 410, which some hear/feel, may add to your monitoring enjoyment.
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... ... Or, is the 800 watt Rumble Head with a couple of 8 ohm 210 cabs the better? I'm not really interested in the stage model as I have my own pedals.

Which Rumble cab works best with the 800 head? ... ...


Now, with the Rumble 800 HD, you're talkin' cab options galore, jd! Being 2 ohm stable, you can run anything from one, two, three, or up to four 8 ohm cabs! :woot:

And all the Rumble cabs are designed to work well together, so mixing and matching them to your heart's content gives a win-win any way you go. But, I wouldn't recommend the 115 as a single cab for either the 500 or 800 heads without some serious downturn on the Master, since it's the lowest rated at 300W! But, as I've already mentioned, jd, you must be familiar with this situation, running a 400W cab with a 700W amp. However, in combination with other Rumble cabs, the 115 is terrific! So, pick your favorites and go for it.
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... ... I've heard some say the jump between the 500 to the 800 wasn't a considerable difference. ... ...


I think that comes from the basic amplification concept that to double the volume takes 10 times the power. So, of course, in that context, it doesn't seem like a big difference. But, once again, letting your own ears be your guide may give a different perspective on what is, or is not, "considerable". Or, just having powerful specs, even if you never max them, gives considerable headroom.
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... ... I know they only get a little more than half their power at 8 ohms. ... ...


Actually, the Rumble 500 can do up to 350W at 8 ohms, or 70% of full power at 4 ohms, while the Rumble 800 can do up to 400W at 8 ohms, or 50% of full power at 4 or 2 ohms. It may seem strange, but it's true. :)
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... ... I like the idea of the 500 combo being light and I could use it alone on smaller gigs, is what I'm thinking, and add the extended cab for bigger gigs.

From what I saw in the store it seems to have a lot of power as I start turning up the volume, but tapers off a bit as it goes up. I know the in store perception is different than having it on a gig. ... ...


Yes, the 500 combo is a very light and convenient one-hand-carry package for load-in/load-out. That's what I use in my loud country band, raised on a stand, tilted back to "aim" toward my ears, it worked quite well by itself! The few times I added an extension cab it was overkill and I could have easily done without it, but it looked killer!
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Why not try a Rumble head through the Headliner cab first? Might be real nice.


Yes, an excellent "starter" path. Next step, if you choose to continue, would be to add a lightweight Rumble 210 cab to be used either with, or without, the heavy Headliner cab as you see fit. Just continue your already judicious low volume settings when using both cabs, since they are each rated 400W and could each see 500W at max!
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I bought the 500 Combo and 210 extension and have not regretted it once. I love that I can hear myself much better with the vertical 410 set up, and there is plenty of power on tap, lighter and much easier to carry. Be sure to read up on how the GAIN and MASTER VOLUME interact differently with the Rumbles as well. I think you would be extremely happy.


Yes, indeed, Thundar! And the Rumble Club Wiki page, linked in my signature, is a good place to do that. See the Rumble Talks section there.
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The 800 head will go down to 2ohms, so you could run two 4ohms cabs.


Excellent point, davey! The Rumble 800 HD can, indeed, run two 4ohm cabs, or a 4ohm and 1or2 8ohm cabs, or four 8 ohm cabs! It's really quite versatile.
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Oh that's cool!


Yes, jd. Yes, it is.

Please keep us posted on your Rumble Quest. And, should you get a Rumble please show us a pic and join The Club! ;)
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