I have a few Rumble questions. ... ...
Well, jd, you came to the right place!
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... ... I play with a country/rock band that gets pretty loud. We run everything through the PA with subs. I'm currently using a Peavey Headliner 1000 head and Headliner 410 cab, giving me about 700 watts. ... ...
Wow! Pretty substantial stage monitor for everything going thru the PA! But, I understand completely. My modern country band has the same setup, and the Rumble 500 combo alone was always enough for me.
Do I understand correctly that you run just one Headliner 410 cab with the Headliner 1000 amp? If I'm seeing the correct specs for your rig you
could be putting up to 700W into a 400W rated cab? You must not need to turn up the volume very far, right?
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... ... I like the way the Rumbles sound that I tried. Would I want the 500 watt combo with an extended 210 cab?
How much better would the 500 watt combo be with the extended 410 cab? ... ...
First, always remember that the terms "better" and "best" are very subjective and, therefore, are interpreted differently by different people. In music, always let your own ears guide you toward your interpretation of "better" and "best".
Other things being equal (but when does
that really happen?), the 2x210 stack gives a bit better dispersion, which your audience doesn't need, and gets speakers closer to your ears, which you do need, better than the single 410 cab. [Assumes two 8 ohm 210 cab
s & one 4 ohm 410 cab to get equal amp power.]
The 210 combo on top of the 410 cab gets speakers closer to your ears

and adds more Sound Pressure Level (SPL) around your ankles

. But any perceived greater fullness of the 410, which some hear/feel, may add to your monitoring enjoyment.
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... ... Or, is the 800 watt Rumble Head with a couple of 8 ohm 210 cabs the better? I'm not really interested in the stage model as I have my own pedals.
Which Rumble cab works best with the 800 head? ... ...
Now, with the Rumble 800 HD, you're talkin' cab options galore, jd! Being 2 ohm stable, you can run anything from one, two, three, or up to
four 8 ohm cabs!
And all the Rumble cabs are designed to work well together, so mixing and matching them to your heart's content gives a win-win any way you go. But, I wouldn't recommend the 115 as a
single cab for either the 500 or 800 heads without some serious downturn on the Master, since it's the lowest rated at 300W!
But, as I've already mentioned, jd, you must be familiar with this situation, running a 400W cab with a 700W amp. However, in combination with other Rumble cabs, the 115 is terrific! So, pick your favorites and go for it.
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... ... I've heard some say the jump between the 500 to the 800 wasn't a considerable difference. ... ...
I think that comes from the basic amplification concept that to double the volume takes 10 times the power. So, of course, in that context, it doesn't
seem like a big difference. But, once again, letting your own ears be your guide may give a different perspective on what is, or is not, "considerable". Or, just having powerful specs, even if you never max them, gives considerable headroom.
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... ... I know they only get a little more than half their power at 8 ohms. ... ...
Actually, the Rumble 500 can do up to 350W at 8 ohms, or 70% of full power at 4 ohms, while the Rumble 800 can do up to 400W at 8 ohms, or 50% of full power at 4 or 2 ohms. It may seem strange, but it's true.
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... ... I like the idea of the 500 combo being light and I could use it alone on smaller gigs, is what I'm thinking, and add the extended cab for bigger gigs.
From what I saw in the store it seems to have a lot of power as I start turning up the volume, but tapers off a bit as it goes up. I know the in store perception is different than having it on a gig. ... ...
Yes, the 500 combo is a very light and convenient one-hand-carry package for load-in/load-out. That's what I use in my loud country band, raised on a stand, tilted back to "aim" toward my ears, it worked quite well by itself! The few times I added an extension cab it was overkill and I could have easily done without it, but it
looked killer!
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Why not try a Rumble head through the Headliner cab first? Might be real nice.
Yes, an excellent "starter" path. Next step, if you choose to continue, would be to add a lightweight Rumble 210 cab to be used either with, or without, the heavy Headliner cab as you see fit. Just continue your already judicious low volume settings when using
both cabs, since they are each rated 400W and could each see 500W at max!
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I bought the 500 Combo and 210 extension and have not regretted it once. I love that I can hear myself much better with the vertical 410 set up, and there is plenty of power on tap, lighter and much easier to carry. Be sure to read up on how the GAIN and MASTER VOLUME interact differently with the Rumbles as well. I think you would be extremely happy.
Yes, indeed, Thundar! And the
Rumble Club Wiki page, linked in my signature, is a good place to do that. See
the Rumble Talks section there.
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The 800 head will go down to 2ohms, so you could run two 4ohms cabs.
Excellent point, davey! The Rumble 800 HD can, indeed, run two 4ohm cabs, or a 4ohm and 1or2 8ohm cabs, or four 8 ohm cabs! It's really quite versatile.
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Yes, jd. Yes, it is.
Please keep us posted on your Rumble Quest. And, should you get a Rumble please show us a pic and join The Club!
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