Fender Rumble Club

[ventus]

Now I'm pretty happy Fender Rumble 500 combo, Fender Rumble 115 and my nice Fender '51 P-bass ... Very good vintage sounds from both amplifiers, cabinets and P-bass. We play quite loud and I wonder if it really is 500w amplifier? : - / Volume at 9 o'clock and Gain 12 is already very, very loud I've had the Marshall VBA400 and VBC412, Peavey VB-2 and Peavey Tour 810, Ampeg 810 and Ampeg V4BH, Hartke 215VX and Hartke 3500 etc .. This Fender rig delivers as good as the above several times more expensive amplifiers and cabinets.

 

[honeyiscool]

Fender sells stuff other than Bass stuff? Yeah I guess it is a matter of perspective... I rarely look at the guitar stuff. Not saying never, but my interest is more on the bass...

Odd thing is, I am GASsing for a Champion 100 / HSS Strat as well. I love the effects build into the Champion, and figure once I get the bass thing down, guitar should be super easy...

I can't recommend starting with an amp like that. I'd rather recommend something that has fewer features and a bit more life to it. Something like a Vox AC series, Fender Hot Rod, Fender Blues Junior, Peavey Classic 30. A good tube amp in the 15-30 watt range that overdrives easily and has a quality cabinet will inspire your playing the way that a cheap 100 watt digital amp really won't. Good digital amps exist. They're just really expensive, that's all.

I'm actually far from a fan when it comes to Fender classic guitar amps. Twin Reverbs amps are the main reason why bass players hate guitar players. I think the biggest thing holding Fender back as a guitar amp innovator is that their classic amps sell so well that they're not willing to innovate the way they've done with Fender Rumble, which has brought a new level of quality, value, cost, size, and weight to bass players. I think that's because Fender bass amps have never actually been iconic. You see the same laziness with Ampeg bass amps that you do in Fender guitar amps. Some good ideas, but none of those ideas are followed all the way through, so that they can protect their iconic and classic products. Never mind the fact that on a modern bar stage, a Fender Twin Reverb makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[Big Hoss]

I can't recommend starting with an amp like that. I'd rather recommend something that has fewer features and a bit more life to it. Something like a Vox AC series, Fender Hot Rod, Fender Blues Junior, Peavey Classic 30. A good tube amp in the 15-30 watt range that overdrives easily and has a quality cabinet will inspire your playing the way that a cheap 100 watt digital amp really won't. Good digital amps exist. They're just really expensive, that's all.

I'm actually far from a fan when it comes to Fender classic guitar amps. Twin Reverbs amps are the main reason why bass players hate guitar players. I think the biggest thing holding Fender back as a guitar amp innovator is that their classic amps sell so well that they're not willing to innovate the way they've done with Fender Rumble, which has brought a new level of quality, value, cost, size, and weight to bass players. I think that's because Fender bass amps have never actually been iconic. You see the same laziness with Ampeg bass amps that you do in Fender guitar amps. Some good ideas, but none of those ideas are followed all the way through, so that they can protect their iconic and classic products. Never mind the fact that on a modern bar stage, a Fender Twin Reverb makes no sense whatsoever.

Good to know. I know absolutely zero about Guitar amps other than I know I will need a decent one to start with, and as impressed as I am with the Rumble I figure a Fender amp is a good solid bet...

 

[Tad]

Good to know. I know absolutely zero about Guitar amps other than I know I will need a decent one to start with, and as impressed as I am with the Rumble I figure a Fender amp is a good solid bet...

I have a G-Dec, a G-Dec3 30, a Mustang I, and a Mustang V. They are all cool.

I got my Mustang V when the V1's went on clearance. 150 watt steero head and 200 watt stereo 412 cab for $290. It's sitting by my Rumble Rig in the family photo.

I am not really a guitar player, but I like to fool around with them. I have a Strat and a Tele.

I don't figure that I'll ever need anymore guitar amps.

 

[Big Hoss]

I have a G-Dec, a G-Dec3 30, a Mustang I, and a Mustang V. They are all cool.

I got my Mustang V when the V1's went on clearance. 150 watt steero head and 200 watt stereo 412 cab for $290. It's sitting by my Rumble Rig in the family photo.

I am not really a guitar player, but I like to fool around with them. I have a Strat and a Tele.

I don't figure that I'll ever need anymore guitar amps.

Yeah, my purpose for a guitar amp is something I can play with to know the instrument and amplification... Not necessarily because I need the best guitar amp possible, just something to play through, for guest jams that sort of thing...

 

[Tad]

Yeah, my purpose for a guitar amp is something I can play with to know the instrument and amplification... Not necessarily because I need the best guitar amp possible, just something to play through, for guest jams that sort of thing...

That's kind of my deal, too.

I have had a couple of guitar players say something about my Mustang before they plugged in.

After they played through it none of them had anything bad to say about it.

Mustangs are fairly inexpensive for what you get and pretty versatile, too. Mileage may vary.

 

[Big Hoss]

That's kind of my deal, too.

I have had a couple of guitar players say something about my Mustang before they plugged in.

After they played through it none of them had anything bad to say about it.

Mustangs are fairly inexpensive for what you get and pretty versatile, too. Mileage may vary.

Yeah, right now that Mustang V rig At least the Mustang V V.2 150 head and 4x12 cab are running around $600.00, more than I want to spend for just a toy that won't likely see a lot of use.

 

[Linnin]

Now I'm pretty happy Fender Rumble 500 combo, Fender Rumble 115 and my nice Fender '51 P-bass ... Very good vintage sounds from both amplifiers, cabinets and P-bass. We play quite loud and I wonder if it really is 500w amplifier? : - / Volume at 9 o'clock and Gain 12 is already very, very loud I've had the Marshall VBA400 and VBC412, Peavey VB-2 and Peavey Tour 810, Ampeg 810 and Ampeg V4BH, Hartke 215VX and Hartke 3500 etc .. This Fender rig delivers as good as the above several times more expensive amplifiers and cabinets.

Fender Happiness Is A Beautiful Thing!
Fender Rumbles Don't Cost A Million $. They Just Sound Like They Do!

 

[GregT]

A guitar plugged into a bass amp can't be beat either. As long as you like a clean jazzy sound. There have been famous guitar players who used bass amps for sure. Solid state bass amps have a great sound for guitar. I've always thought Leo really did appreciate the bass. Not like it was an afterthought. I really like to believe he would have liked the new Rumbles.

 

[Tad]

Yeah, right now that Mustang V rig At least the Mustang V V.2 150 head and 4x12 cab are running around $600.00, more than I want to spend for just a toy that won't likely see a lot of use.

Yep, the V1's were priced like that too before the V2's came out. The exact same thinking was why I had never sprung for a decent guitar rig. I couldn't see myself spending that much money for something that I wasn't going to be using all the time.

I had gotten the Mustang I when they were on a special sale for $79 and really liked it and figured that I would settle for that.

When the V2's were released the V1's went on half price clearance at GC. It was one of those Deal of the Day clearance things. That is when I snagged mine.

I figured I would never get that much of a rig for less than $300. That is less than the regular price on a new Mustang III and was less than what either component had been before it went on clearance. It came with all the cables and the footswitch, also, all NIB. I put it on layaway and paid it off.

I knew that it would not be regularly abused in my music room and would probably be all that I ever needed for fooling around or having a rig when somebody came over to play.

If you were to run across a good deal on a used Mustang in good shape, check it out. A II, III or IV would probably do it, too. Depending on what you thought your needs were.

 

[Linnin]

Good to know. I know absolutely zero about Guitar amps other than I know I will need a decent one to start with, and as impressed as I am with the Rumble I figure a Fender amp is a good solid bet...

You are right about that, Dave. Fender Champion 100's are flying off the shelves just like Rumble 500's only they are outselling the Rumble 500's ten-to-one. The Champion 40 would be an excellent choice at $180, and plenty loud. Sound quality and tone would be identical to the 100.

 

[Scott Truesdell]

[the local music store] doesn't stock stuff so people don't try things and then buy online. He will order me whatever I want (from online ), but I need to pay for it first. When I mentioned that online at least I get a 30 day money back period, he asked me to order it online, try it, send it back, and then buy it from him, 20% more expensive

This music store owner is going to lose his store. There are many many businesses which have been disrupted by the shift to e-commerce. Guitar Center, with its strong buying power, is able to compete by matching internet pricing and thus keep the doors open. But to your local store own we can only say, "It's not 1990. Things have changed."

JACink, you write like an American! I always envy Europeans with their mastery of 3, 4, 5 languages! Well done, sir!

 

[JACink]

JACink, you write like an American! I always envy Europeans with their mastery of 3, 4, 5 languages! Well done, sir!

LOL! Thanks (I think )

 

[GuiTuber]

This music store owner is going to lose his store. There are many many businesses which have been disrupted by the shift to e-commerce. Guitar Center, with its strong buying power, is able to compete by matching internet pricing and thus keep the doors open. But to your local store own we can only say, "It's not 1990. Things have changed."

JACink, you write like an American! I always envy Europeans with their mastery of 3, 4, 5 languages! Well done, sir!

But a local shop doesn't have GC's buying power so you can't use their model to chastise the local shop owner. Having said that, I agree that the shop owner has got to be watching money walk out his door with his practice.

I bought a Yamaha 12-string a few years ago from a local shop. I had looked online and found some pretty good pricing. However, I couldn't find one in a store, any store, to play. As I talked to the guys at the local shop about my desire to purchase the Yamaha, they told me they would match the lowest price I found online and order it for me. I have no idea if they lost money on that deal or not, but they enticed me to buy the item from them, which is one way the owner of the shop in question is failing himself.

 

[Big Hoss]

Yes, local shops rarely have the bulk purchasing power of the big box chains, or larger online retailers (I.E. Guitar Center and its associated brands, Sam Ash, Amazon...) HOWEVER, I have talked with my local guy, he price matches online pricing on like for like items he carries in stock. Plus on any in stock instruments, they are given a full setup and inspection, I have yet to see any duds in his shop, whereas with online purchasing its a crap shoot. He manages to price match, offer superior service, AND pull a reasonable profit from a clean, appealing, and up to date shop not some run down strip mall shop like a lot of them I have seen.

I'm certain he would be more than happy to sell me whatever I needed price matching online pricing, however I KNOW I have paid more to go to him and not even tried to price match due to the service I get from him and his staff. (Fender 20' tweed jacket instrument cable, $27.99 on Amazon, $31.99 + tax locally)... But more importantly...

When I looked last he had a Fender Rumble 100, Fender Rumble 200 combo, Fender Rumble 500 Combo, Fender Rumble 115 cab, Fender Rumble 410 cab, Fender Rumble 10 cab, and even a trade in Fender Rumble V2 2x8 cab. Price tags on each of them were exactly at where Musiciansfriend had them listed...

We talked a bit about amplification, and why he had so much Fender in stock, Rumbles, Mustangs, Champions, etc... He simply said... "I carry what sells, and lots of people are buying Fenders".

And one Ampeg, and one Orange...

 

[Tad]

Yeah, my purpose for a guitar amp is something I can play with to know the instrument and amplification... Not necessarily because I need the best guitar amp possible, just something to play through, for guest jams that sort of thing...

The other reason that I went ahead and bought it is because my youngest, she's 12 now, plays guitar. She also plays flute in band at school. She is pretty musical. She had started fooling with guitars a little before before those amps went on clearance sale.

Her guitar instructor is teaching her "Brown Eyed Girl" right now. She is starting to get pretty good on her little acoustic. I was kind of hoping that I'll have a built in guitar player to jam with before too long.

She doesn't know it yet, but I bought her a Squier Vintage Modified Surf Stratocaster when it was on clearance. She had played it at the store and really liked it. She told me how pretty was and it was her favorite color. And she sounded pretty good on it. It was a nice little guitar and I got a screaming deal on it. Of course that was right after Christmas.

I got the thing off of layaway but I haven't given it to her yet. I am trying to figure out what would be a good time to give it to her.

My wife plays keys and banjo.

I am working towards getting family jams in the music room to be a regular thing. Hoping anyway.

 

[dbbltime]

Yes, local shops rarely have the bulk purchasing power of the big box chains, or larger online retailers (I.E. Guitar Center and its associated brands, Sam Ash, Amazon...) HOWEVER, I have talked with my local guy, he price matches online pricing on like for like items he carries in stock. Plus on any in stock instruments, they are given a full setup and inspection, I have yet to see any duds in his shop, whereas with online purchasing its a crap shoot. He manages to price match, offer superior service, AND pull a reasonable profit from a clean, appealing, and up to date shop not some run down strip mall shop like a lot of them I have seen.

I'm certain he would be more than happy to sell me whatever I needed price matching online pricing, however I KNOW I have paid more to go to him and not even tried to price match due to the service I get from him and his staff. (Fender 20' tweed jacket instrument cable, $27.99 on Amazon, $31.99 + tax locally)... But more importantly...

When I looked last he had a Fender Rumble 100, Fender Rumble 200 combo, Fender Rumble 500 Combo, Fender Rumble 115 cab, Fender Rumble 410 cab, Fender Rumble 10 cab, and even a trade in Fender Rumble V2 2x8 cab. Price tags on each of them were exactly at where Musiciansfriend had them listed...

We talked a bit about amplification, and why he had so much Fender in stock, Rumbles, Mustangs, Champions, etc... He simply said... "I carry what sells, and lots of people are buying Fenders".

And one Ampeg, and one Orange...

Great example of adapting in the buisness world, via cs, and inventory. Sometimes one positive buying expeirence leads to positive dynamics as in first person word of word of mouth - the most efficient form of advertisement.

 

[GuiTuber]

When I looked last he had a Fender Rumble 100, Fender Rumble 200 combo, Fender Rumble 500 Combo, Fender Rumble 115 cab, Fender Rumble 410 cab, Fender Rumble 10 cab, and even a trade in Fender Rumble V2 2x8 cab. Price tags on each of them were exactly at where Musiciansfriend had them listed...

Just guessing, but I think that a lot of manufacturers set strict pricing for retailers on certain products. Whether they do it for the benefit of the consumer or themselves, or both, I don't know.

We talked a bit about amplification, and why he had so much Fender in stock, Rumbles, Mustangs, Champions, etc... He simply said... "I carry what sells, and lots of people are buying Fenders".

And one Ampeg, and one Orange...

In sharp contrast to our local GC. You can't swing a dead cat in there without hitting a Markbass.

 

[Big Hoss]

Just guessing, but I think that a lot of manufacturers set strict pricing for retailers on certain products. Whether they do it for the benefit of the consumer or themselves, or both, I don't know.



In sharp contrast to our local GC. You can't swing a dead cat in there without hitting a Markbass.

I have multiple reasons for disliking my experience with MarkBass, the sound is just meh... and honestly, they might be great amps, but the way they are marketed makes them seem like a Guitar Center house brand like the Williams digital pianos which are how shall I put this? Less than stellar...

 

[Big Hoss]

The other reason that I went ahead and bought it is because my youngest, she's 12 now, plays guitar. She also plays flute in band at school. She is pretty musical. She had started fooling with guitars a little before before those amps went on clearance sale.

Her guitar instructor is teaching her "Brown Eyed Girl" right now. She is starting to get pretty good on her little acoustic. I was kind of hoping that I'll have a built in guitar player to jam with before too long.

She doesn't know it yet, but I bought her a Squier Vintage Modified Surf Stratocaster when it was on clearance. She had played it at the store and really liked it. She told me how pretty was and it was her favorite color. And she sounded pretty good on it. It was a nice little guitar and I got a screaming deal on it. Of course that was right after Christmas.

I got the thing off of layaway but I haven't given it to her yet. I am trying to figure out what would be a good time to give it to her.

My wife plays keys and banjo.

I am working towards getting family jams in the music room to be a regular thing. Hoping anyway.

LOL... You are sort of going the way I am... My wife does a teeny bit of accoustic guitar and wants to learn keys, her brother plays accoustic and a strat, I have sisters in law that sing, and a nephew that absolutely shreds on his strat... I have another nephew that has never been exposed to playing music, but can drum his brains out on a desk... Seriously considering getting him a starter set for Christmas, and pointing him to an instructor... But I think my in laws would kill me... Better wait till he has his own place...