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Glad you're back to gigging.Nice! Just had a gig myself, but didn't need the Rumble as an adequate sound system was provided. I hope yours went well, GP.
Here is another that would join. Rumble 40, perfect for the home.I searched, but can't seem to find a club for those of us who use and love the Fender Rumble series of amps. Any interest?
I've been playing at home with my Rumble 30 since late January and it seems to me like this amp puts out a good share for being so small! Originally I was looking at the Rumble 15 but went with the 30 because of the extra input jack, more wattage, and I read online reviews which said the 30 would be good enough to play with a band in a small venue even versus the 15 which didn't have as much bang.
Hope to hear form some fellow Rumble fans soon!
So this makes me the founding member, #1? I feel this is a big honor for someone so new on the forum!
Here is another that would join. Rumble 40, perfect for the home.
How quickly? The lack of essential workers these days slows overseas factories and shipping logistics, as well as U.S. goods. As much as everyone wants things to get back to normal, it's an uphill battle. My state, for example, has actually just reinstated some previously rescinded mask & distancing protocols because the hospitals are now filling up again! It's a crazy time.
And it's not a rare problem on most amps with FX Loops. With every relocation at the factory before boxing, & after unboxing at your house, the jacks (and these switches) are exposed to ambient air, which can frequently change from hot & humid to cool & dry, with accompanying corrosive condensation on metal parts. Such electrical contacts are especially susceptible to these conditions.
Thank goodness for this simple cable fix, if that is the problem.
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Pretty sure the Rumbles were never PTP.My guess is the general rise in electronics-in-general of cheaper, miniaturized, all-in-one printed circuit modules replacing ol' timey point-to-pojnt handwiring. That brings on the replacement-over-repair policies that are not as sustainable as previous repair policies. This trend is just a global economic fact of business life that's not limited to Fender, but affects all products containing electronics. What's the life expectancy of a modern smart/cell phone these days?
Repairability of old PTP handwired gear is one thing keeping the vintage market alive, similar to vintage cars that still have parts available. BTW, Fender, and others, do still make a few very repairable PTP handwired products at premium prices.
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It’s a design/manufacturing problem. We need new designs that are repairable, but hopefully this is possible without going back to older PTP designs. We should, however expect electronics to become more expensive as a result. This might be a good thing, though - if this is coupled with repairability we might end up keeping our stuff for longer.My guess is the general rise in electronics-in-general of cheaper, miniaturized, all-in-one printed circuit modules replacing ol' timey point-to-pojnt handwiring. That brings on the replacement-over-repair policies that are not as sustainable as previous repair policies. This trend is just a global economic fact of business life that's not limited to Fender, but affects all products containing electronics. What's the life expectancy of a modern smart/cell phone these days?
Repairability of old PTP handwired gear is one thing keeping the vintage market alive, similar to vintage cars that still have parts available. BTW, Fender, and others, do still make a few very repairable PTP handwired products at premium prices.
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Pretty sure the Rumbles were never PTP.
Yes, I believe that's a safe assumption, Miley. Even if the original Custom Shop Rumbles were(?) hand wired by the designer of the Ampeg SVT, as rumored, they probably weren't really PTP. 
It’s a design/manufacturing problem. We need new designs that are repairable, but hopefully this is possible without going back to older PTP designs. We should, however expect electronics to become more expensive as a result. This might be a good thing, though - if this is coupled with repairability we might end up keeping our stuff for longer.
If an amp is easier to repair, it’s going to be more expensive to produce. If a manufacturer sells fewer amps, each unit is going to be more expensive as well. We’re going to have to rethink the way we’re doing things altogether. The consumer society is not sustainable in the long run.Yes, Jake, quite right. Repairability issues are now affecting a very wide range of industries, some of them very critical to sustainable modern life. It's about a lot more than just fixing cell phones. As usual, the right solution has got to be more expensive initially and would seem to lead to less sales in the long run! And what business wants to make that choice?
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Saturday.
Tim
Lived there as a kid 1959.We're waaaay up in Redding.
Tim