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Michael Favata said:
Question. I am working from home. Of course the fender R500 and Mustang at my side. I pick it up every spare moment. Love working from home. Anyway. I also like playing early with my 1st cup of coffee. My hands are fresh. My mind is fresh. Anyway. I turn on the Rumble at 8:30 or so. I get busy working. I forget it’s on. About 11:30 I get caught up and pick up the bass. Amps been on for a few hours now. There’s times it’s on 5-6 hours. It doesn’t heat up at all. What do you folks do? Leave it on? Turn it off? At gigs is the amp on or off between sets? What’s your thoughts? Good being on so long? No worries? I posted this in the Combo club too
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I wouldn't expect any problens from that, Michael. Although, there's always the chance that some small component may reach its life expectancy a bit earlier that way. I've heard of some anti-exercise proponents who claim the human heart only lasts for so many beats, on average, and that exercise uses them up faster! :confused:

I tend to believe that more of electronic parts than organic parts. I've read of some Rumblers using the super secret mute switch* between sets. Not that it would preserve anything, but just prevent feedback or unexpected notes. ;)



*See the "Overdrive as Mute" link near the bottom of the Rumble Talks section of your Rumble Club Wiki page. :thumbsup:
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Practice report with the Rumble 500 combo...

90s alt rock band I put together with vocalist and rhythm guitarist about about 4 months ago- we just get together once a month. First rehearsal couple weeks ago with new drummer and new lead guitarist. Other practice facility had a bass amp, so this was the first time my Rumble has left the house. I got started with this music thing very late in life (about 3 and a half years ago). I will be 60 in a couple of months. Playing basic stuff, but having a blast!

(probably need headphones to hear my mediocre efforts)

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Michael Favata said:
Question. I am working from home. Of course the fender R500 and Mustang at my side. I pick it up every spare moment. Love working from home. Anyway. I also like playing early with my 1st cup of coffee. My hands are fresh. My mind is fresh. Anyway. I turn on the Rumble at 8:30 or so. I get busy working. I forget it’s on. About 11:30 I get caught up and pick up the bass. Amps been on for a few hours now. There’s times it’s on 5-6 hours. It doesn’t heat up at all. What do you folks do? Leave it on? Turn it off? At gigs is the amp on or off between sets? What’s your thoughts? Good being on so long? No worries? I posted this in the Combo club too
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Umm, you know it has a fan, right?
 
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Michael Favata said:
Yep I’m aware that it has a fan.
Was just curious what everyone’s practice/routine was here.

Here’s a couple of links speaking about this.

On, Off, or Mute

Standby switch vs. leaving amp in run position vs. turning off

Home power usage of Class D, different wattage amps?
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The first two are specifically referring to tube amps. When I used tube amps-up 'til ~1984-I'd put them on standby on breaks. IF I could get to the switch on the back w/o blocking the other band member's way offa the stage.(it occurs to me that the gigs I played from 75-82 were on small stages with the entry through my 'spot') Otherwise, just kill the volume on the bass to prevent feedback.
 
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Hmmm... Not knowing any more about the electronics involved in amps than I do about the math involved in getting to the moon and back, I'm not questioning the credibility of the specifics of this article but more about what makes this article any more credible than the long-standing "myth?" There is not authorship noted or claim to any particular expertise or reference or peer reviews. What makes this more "right" than any, oh, I don't know, say,"Ivermectin promoting" article found on the interwebs? I'd actually like to know because I have 2 all-tube amps.

Tim
 
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ClassicJazz said:
He's one of the few bass players I like that are pick players. And a hell of nice guy, met him some years ago and got to play his famous Jazz bass.

The other is Andy West from the Dixie Dreggs. Amazing bass player, also got to meet him.
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What was the action like on Bobby's Bass? It looks so effortless or him but there again He's Bobby Vega HaHa!!
 
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trseal said:
Hmmm... Not knowing any more about the electronics involved in amps than I do about the math involved in getting to the moon and back, I'm not questioning the credibility of the specifics of this article but more about what makes this article any more credible than the long-standing "myth?" There is not authorship noted or claim to any particular expertise or reference or peer reviews. What makes this more "right" than any, oh, I don't know, say,"Ivermectin promoting" article found on the interwebs? I'd actually like to know because I have 2 all-tube amps.

Tim
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Well there is a claim to expertise maybe you missed it? From the article:

"It’s a long-standing debate about what the standby switches on Fender amps are used for. That’s why Sweetwater‘s own tube amp expert, Greg Bowers, decided to clear things up and end the debate once and for all."

He makes a logical case that makes sense to me. I think he lay's it out pretty clearly. But maybe that's just me.
 
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GonePlaid said:
A very merry un-birthday.
Totally in agreement on the soundman-and old school-things. None of the places we play have house PA's-or people to run them. All sound is adjusted by us. Most places we play don't have room for monitors. At the place we played last Saturday, the dancers bump into the mics(flat floor, no stage). Also they have us set up in the SE corner of the room and the people at the bar in the NW corner of the room complain they can't hear our 'on break' music. But if I turn it up so they can hear, the people in front of us say it's too loud.

Our usual PA setup-voices only-is 2 Daisy chained BOSE L-1's, which we can hear ourselves off the sides of and at our volume, it's enuff. We're not acoustic, but we're also not LOUD.(60s-70s rock and country)

Most of our(too few)gigs, we get there ~1 hour before start time, set up, tune and go for it. I try to use my longest(20')cable and get out front to hear any EQ tweaks that need to be addressed. Which is kinda uncool with people sitting there eating and chatting and looking at you like you have 3 heads. I always have the Rumble on a stand* of some kind, angled up toward my ears. Partly because my knees don't work all that well as knees, but aren't worth a hoot as ears.

Referencing pay, or lack of, we're a quartet-normally. The place we're playing Friday and Saturday(10/15+16) doesn't pay enuff so we're going in as a trio each night. I'm off tonight. One of the guitarists, w/ his PA, also plays bass so he's on tonight, I'm on tomorrow night. And I 'get' to take my PA(JBL EON ONE)tomorrow. I run a mixer to put 3-4 mics into the EON.

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The “last Saturday” place? Do you have another PA speaker and stand you can put near the bar?
 
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Michael Favata said:
Well there is a claim to expertise maybe you missed it? From the article:

"It’s a long-standing debate about what the standby switches on Fender amps are used for. That’s why Sweetwater‘s own tube amp expert, Greg Bowers, decided to clear things up and end the debate once and for all."

He makes a logical case that makes sense to me. I think he lay's it out pretty clearly. But maybe that's just me.
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Yeah, I did finally see that in there but I'm not disagreeing with your take-away. Only questioning what makes it more factual than any other internet article or manufacturer's Owner's Manual.

Tim
 
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trseal said:
Hmmm... Not knowing any more about the electronics involved in amps than I do about the math involved in getting to the moon and back, I'm not questioning the credibility of the specifics of this article but more about what makes this article any more credible than the long-standing "myth?" There is not authorship noted or claim to any particular expertise or reference or peer reviews. What makes this more "right" than any, oh, I don't know, say,"Ivermectin promoting" article found on the interwebs? I'd actually like to know because I have 2 all-tube amps.

Tim
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you don’t know me from Adam, but I spent years modding, repairing, and occasionally building tube amps. I agree with the article in question, as do a number of recognized tube amp experts.
 
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Tex Bass said:
Practice report with the Rumble 500 combo...

90s alt rock band I put together with vocalist and rhythm guitarist about about 4 months ago- we just get together once a month. First rehearsal couple weeks ago with new drummer and new lead guitarist. Other practice facility had a bass amp, so this was the first time my Rumble has left the house. I got started with this music thing very late in life (about 3 and a half years ago). I will be 60 in a couple of months. Playing basic stuff, but having a blast!

(probably need headphones to hear my mediocre efforts)

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Nice! I couldn't hear the bass too well in the mix, but you're playing with a lot of enthusiasm and confidence, and that's more than half the battle! Congrats and keep going. For three and a half years, that's really great.
 
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trseal said:
Yeah, I did finally see that in there but I'm not disagreeing with your take-away. Only questioning what makes it more factual than any other internet article or manufacturer's Owner's Manual.

Tim
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I understand. What I'm learning as I get older is there's a lot I don't know. I'm more willing to listen to someone who is the "expert." Of course we always have to consider the source. I don't know this Greg Bowers but Sweetwater declares him their tube expert. That gives him credibility to me because I've come to know Sweetwater as a trusted reliable source. That said if there was an article from an expert taking down this guys facts and they were a reliable source I would consider that as well. But until and if that happens I think this makes sense. You mention the manufacturers owners manual. That's interesting. Do they refute what Bowers says? Because I'm sure Fender has their own "tube experts".
 
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