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@bassdeal, if you are the only "semi" part and the rest of the trio is truly acoustic, then yes, your R40 will do you proud. No mics, or pickups, on the guitar or cajon, right? If you have a PA for vocals only, then the R40 can certainly be much louder, and carry much farther, than the acoustic guitar. ;)

But, "be prepared" is not just the scouts' motto. Take a bigger amp, too, 'just in case'. Maybe even setup the bigger amp, with the R40 on top and its XLR Out connected to the bigger amp. Probably no need to fire up the bigger amp, unless the guitar plugs into something and the cajon uses a mic. Then, you're still ready to shine with the R40! :thumbsup:
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#51,702
bassdeal said:
Hello Rumblers. I have a question for you all relating to a situation I am in.

I am a R40v3 and R4x10v2 user but this relates to my trusty R40. I am in a semi-acoustic trio, guitar, cajon, bass (I am the "semi" part) which generally does farmers markets, small restaurants, tap rooms, etc. We have a gig tomorrow afternoon, a 50th high school reunion (which I am missing mine since they fall on the same day and mine is ~450 miles away :--( ). I just got an email today stating the organizer is expecting about 100 people to show up. it is in a restaurant but it seems it is a large one. I don't know what kind of room we will be playing in (I do know it is indoors). To me, 100 people is the size of a reasonable wedding reception in a hall (but what do I know. I had a total of 5 at my wedding, including me). I have used my Markbass 250W amp with a GK 1.x15 Neo for those gigs.

My question is, do you think the R40 can handle this gig? I really like my R40 and would love to show its capabilities, but I also don't want to strain it or be under-mixed. With an normal band, I would just DI the R40 into the PA and get a boost if needed but the BL, who has the PA (a Bose linear array, which I hate, but that is for a different thread), always under-mixes me and cuts off all mids and highs.

I have other equipment far more powerful than the R40 but if the R40 could do it, I would like to use it.

Thanks.
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Suggestion: if possible, take both, scope out the room, and make your decision.
 
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Brians356 said:
I just bought a second Rumble 200 v3 combo for a backup amp. It was on Ebay locally. Tested it at a neutral site, a venue I play in often, and all seemed fine. Got it home to the quiet of my house, and now I notice a hum at idle. Not just a hum, but a soft roiling higher frequency sound as well like boiling water.

Also, I noticed all the white plastic knobs are sticky. At first I thought someone had dirty fingers, but all the knobs are the same. It's like the plastic is out-gassing.

I called the seller and he claims he never heard the hum, but he's going to think over about my request for a refund. I'm sick about this because I really wanted a 2nd 200, and the amp otherwise doesn't look beat up or trashed.

Anyone notice these problems before? Or know what could be the problem component?

Brian
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You didn’t leave a cable dangling from the effects loop did you?
 
#51,705
NHM said:
By fitting a jack socket that, when connecting an external amp, disconnects the internal amp whilst giving access to the speaker.
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Thank you! I didn't know something like that existed. I'll search for one.

I was thinking this was the only way to do it.
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Flamingo21 said:
I think people have done this by running a cable from "extension out" on the amp they'll use as an amp, to "fx return" on the combo they'll use as an extension. No modifications needed.

I'm not sure if this should be an instrument cable or an amp cable.
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NO! Do not do this!! Never connect an extension cab connector to another amp!!! That connects the two amps together and the Evil Smoke will arise!! Beware! :(
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bassdeal said:
Hello Rumblers. I have a question for you all relating to a situation I am in.

I am a R40v3 and R4x10v2 user but this relates to my trusty R40. I am in a semi-acoustic trio, guitar, cajon, bass (I am the "semi" part) which generally does farmers markets, small restaurants, tap rooms, etc. We have a gig tomorrow afternoon, a 50th high school reunion (which I am missing mine since they fall on the same day and mine is ~450 miles away :--( ). I just got an email today stating the organizer is expecting about 100 people to show up. it is in a restaurant but it seems it is a large one. I don't know what kind of room we will be playing in (I do know it is indoors). To me, 100 people is the size of a reasonable wedding reception in a hall (but what do I know. I had a total of 5 at my wedding, including me). I have used my Markbass 250W amp with a GK 1.x15 Neo for those gigs.

My question is, do you think the R40 can handle this gig? I really like my R40 and would love to show its capabilities, but I also don't want to strain it or be under-mixed. With an normal band, I would just DI the R40 into the PA and get a boost if needed but the BL, who has the PA (a Bose linear array, which I hate, but that is for a different thread), always under-mixes me and cuts off all mids and highs.

I have other equipment far more powerful than the R40 but if the R40 could do it, I would like to use it.

Thanks.
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A comment-or 2-about the Bose Line Array PA's. One of our guitarists bought 2 L1s, which he daisy chains, plus a 4 channel Tone MatchTM mixer(no subs). It takes him longer to set up and fiddle with each input, plus running power to both L1s, sometimes requiring multiple extension cords snaking around our gear, than it does for me to set up my PA rig. I use my good ol' Yamaha EX512 7-channel mixer's line out>a JBL EON One. I leave each guy's mic(4) EQ alone and only have to slightly tweak the master EQ for the room(we can but don't put instruments through the PA-vocals only). And I only need one 3 input extension cord/power strip from the wall(Yamaha, JBL, Rumble)-done.

Because the EON, like the L1s, has 180 degree dispersion, I set it up between me and the drummer and it serves as both PA and monitor. We hear what the crowd hears. It does not feed back.

The group consists of 2 guitars, drums, bass. Both guitarists and I alternate singing lead, drummer sings some harmony. We play-mostly-VFW's, American Legions, Elks Clubs, etc.; 60s/70s rock and country(plus some jazz 'standards'), for a 55+ y/o crowd. We don't hafta be LOUD. In fact, one of things they like about us is they can still talk to each other without yelling.
 
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G-Dog said:
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@bassdeal, if you are the only "semi" part and the rest of the trio is truly acoustic, then yes, your R40 will do you proud. No mics, or pickups, on the guitar or cajon, right? If you have a PA for vocals only, then the R40 can certainly be much louder, and carry much farther, than the acoustic guitar. ;)

But, "be prepared" is not just the scouts' motto. Take a bigger amp, too, 'just in case'. Maybe even setup the bigger amp, with the R40 on top and its XLR Out connected to the bigger amp. Probably no need to fire up the bigger amp, unless the guitar plugs into something and the cajon uses a mic. Then, you're still ready to shine with the R40! :thumbsup:
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Thanks. The guitarist and percussionist are both mic'ed (guitarist pickup in PA, cajon mic in sound hole on pillow). Guitarist always wants to be dominate. Last gig, he cranked the PA about 4 song before the end of the show. I was not wearing plugs (it was an outdoor farmers market). Killed my left ear. I could not get the wax out of it for a week.
 
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Flamingo21 said:
I think people have done this by running a cable from "extension out" on the amp they'll use as an amp, to "fx return" on the combo they'll use as an extension. No modifications needed.

I'm not sure if this should be an instrument cable or an amp cable.
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Just for clarification, the extension out on the first amp is a powerful output, meant to go to speakers only. The fx return is for a line level signal only. Running a signal strong enough to power a speaker will be way too much for an fx return.
 
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Brians356 said:
I just bought a second Rumble 200 v3 combo for a backup amp. It was on Ebay locally. Tested it at a neutral site, a venue I play in often, and all seemed fine. Got it home to the quiet of my house, and now I notice a hum at idle. Not just a hum, but a soft roiling higher frequency sound as well like boiling water.

Also, I noticed all the white plastic knobs are sticky. At first I thought someone had dirty fingers, but all the knobs are the same. It's like the plastic is out-gassing.

I called the seller and he claims he never heard the hum, but he's going to think over about my request for a refund. I'm sick about this because I really wanted a 2nd 200, and the amp otherwise doesn't look beat up or trashed.

Anyone notice these problems before? Or know what could be the problem component?

Brian
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Perhaps you got one of the older ones which had the "scratchy pot" problem. My older Rumble 200c had that which may be the boiling water sound you hear. Try plucking a note and rotating the volume knob and see if it make a scratchy noise as you rotate the knob back & forth. Mine was replaced under warranty.
You might try rotating the knob back & forth about 20 times and see if it helps. Some others have somehow used a contact cleaner to help.

Rumble 200 V3 pot static sound
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pbass74 said:
Perhaps you got one of the older ones which had the "scratchy pot" problem. My older Rumble 200c had that which may be the boiling water sound you hear. Try plucking a note and rotating the volume knob and see if it make a scratchy noise as you rotate the knob back & forth. Mine was replaced under warranty.
You might try rotating the knob back & forth about 20 times and see if it helps. Some others have somehow used a contact cleaner to help.
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Thanks, something to dig into. But, isn't it odd that I hear the boiling water sound out the speaker w/ both Gain and Master turned down to 0? That seems impossible, but I don't know anything this amp's design.
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