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So, please tell me about the horn on the higher-wattage Rumbles? What all does it accomplish? Is this something I should GAS for? If it's covered in the wiki, a pointer would be fine. TIA!
I prefer a dark-ish tone, so the onliest time I use the horn in my 200c is on breaks playing the CD player through the amp. In the 'book of words'(manual), it states that using the horn may add unwanted distortion. For me, all distortion is unwanted.
 
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So, please tell me about the horn on the higher-wattage Rumbles? What all does it accomplish? Is this something I should GAS for? If it's covered in the wiki, a pointer would be fine. TIA!

I prefer a dark-ish tone, so the onliest time I use the horn in my 200c is on breaks playing the CD player through the amp. In the 'book of words'(manual), it states that using the horn may add unwanted distortion. For me, all distortion is unwanted.


I am loathe to disagree with my friend, the venerable Plaid One, but the onliest reference to "unwanted distortion" I see in the "book o' words" is the description of the Input, thus:

"INPUT — Plug your passive or active bass in here. If your bass is too hot and causes unwanted distortion, try turning down the GAIN control."​

But I see that the mandible's description of the Horn Switch says, "The horn will add high-frequency crispness and sparkle for more modern tones that are well suited for slap-style funk." I understand the Horn turned on to also give a more balanced tone to recorded music played through the Aux In. However, I believe that a great many Rumblers prefer their bass tone with the Horn turned off.

I hope this helps.
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I am loathe to disagree with my friend, the venerable Plaid One, but the onliest reference to "unwanted distortion" I see in the "book o' words" is the description of the Input, thus:

"INPUT — Plug your passive or active bass in here. If your bass is too hot and causes unwanted distortion, try turning down the GAIN control."​

But I see that the mandible's description of the Horn Switch says, "The horn will add high-frequency crispness and sparkle for more modern tones that are well suited for slap-style funk." I understand the Horn turned on to also give a more balanced tone to recorded music played through the Aux In. However, I believe that a great many Rumblers prefer their bass tone with the Horn turned off.

I hope this helps.
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Now that I think of it, I seem to recall that was in the manual for my long gone R112 cab.
Maybe.
I know I read it somewhere. I ain't gots enuff imagination to come up widdat on my own.
 
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I couldn't help it and got this used Rumble 100 locally on Offerup. :)
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Now that I think of it, I seem to recall that was in the manual for my long gone R112 cab.
Maybe.
I know I read it somewhere. I ain't gots enuff imagination to come up widdat on my own.


Yes, in the [This invalid link has been removed] (2013) it says,

"HORN TWEETER
Adjust the volume level of the tweeter with the Horn Level {B} knob/switch. A normal setting is half volume/–6dB. Note that any distortion from your amplifier will be accentuated by the high-frequency response of the tweeter."

Sounds to me like what you're saying, Goner! :thumbsup:
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Yes, in the [This invalid link has been removed] (2013) it says,

"HORN TWEETER
Adjust the volume level of the tweeter with the Horn Level {B} knob/switch. A normal setting is half volume/–6dB. Note that any distortion from your amplifier will be accentuated by the high-frequency response of the tweeter."

Sounds to me like what you're saying, Goner! :thumbsup:
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Yeah. That. I sent the R112 manual with the R112 when I sold it.
 
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When I plug a stereo 3.5mm jack cable that isn't plugged into anything into the Aux in on my recently purchased, used, Rumble 100 the output of the amp jumps up, this is especially noticeable when listening on headphones. As soon as I plug the other end of the cable into something eg phone or laptop, the output level drops back down again.
Does this happen with anyone else's Rumble 100?
 
When I plug a stereo 3.5mm jack cable that isn't plugged into anything into the Aux in on my recently purchased, used, Rumble 100 the output of the amp jumps up, this is especially noticeable when listening on headphones. As soon as I plug the other end of the cable into something eg phone or laptop, the output level drops back down again.
Does this happen with anyone else's Rumble 100?


[gasp] chappy! :woot: @surprising_chap, you are now member #1649 in the Fender Rumble Club. Please put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.

This startles me! I've not heard of such a thing before and have no explanation for how it could happen. It's as if the Aux cable acts as an antenna to improve reception of your bass's signal! :confused: Anyone else have any explanation for this strange occurrence?

Meanwhile, old chap, how about telling us a bit about yourself, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular? We have all kinds here so you're bound to fit right in. But we all love to ... ... ...

Rumble On!
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I had mentioned earlier that my bass player in a side project loved the way his upright sounded through my Rumble 100. Here he is.
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He just ran his bass with bridge Piezo, through my old K&K 2 band preamp, into the Rumble. It sounded great. We weren't running super loud, but it was very close to his bass and on stool on a thumpy wood porch floor and still there was zero feedback. Credible upright amplification at such a low price and light weight is really amazing.
 

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[gasp] chappy! :woot:
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Haha, unfortunately not very surprising just a randomly generated username from http://creativityforyou.com/combomaker.html which made me chuckle.

I wanted to play bass when I was a kid just getting into punk but my next door neighbour was selling his Les Paul copy cheap so I ended up buying that instead. Got into electronic music with the advent of acid house, programming the bass lines was always my favourite part. Bought a used Danelectro shortscale 63 bass about 10 years ago when I was recording an album but never really used it, then about 6 months ago I picked it up again and really enjoyed thrashing about on it. So I have been trying to learn to play ever since, and have been subject to terrible GAS!

I'll investigate the strange phenomenon with the aux cable more though the Rumble isn't kept at my home with paper thin walls.
 
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When I plug a stereo 3.5mm jack cable that isn't plugged into anything into the Aux in on my recently purchased, used, Rumble 100 the output of the amp jumps up, this is especially noticeable when listening on headphones. As soon as I plug the other end of the cable into something eg phone or laptop, the output level drops back down again.
Does this happen with anyone else's Rumble 100?
I would ask this question of @agedhorse. He is an expert on this sort of thing.
 
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So while we're asking questions, I have one. In your opinion(s), which method will produce the best bass sound within a classic rock band?
My recent acquisition on a new R800c along with playing widely diverse venues, I've been taking full advantage of my R's utility regarding the power switch. But being so close to the action, it's hard to tell which may sound better: HIGH POWER--Low Volume (Master) or LOW POWER--High Volume. Say output volume being roughly equal, which sounds better? At low power, volume ALL THE WAY UP or at high power volume set to get approximately the same level. I tend to be a pretty aggressive player.

Wudya think..?

Tim
 
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So while we're asking questions, I have one. In your opinion(s), which method will produce the best bass sound within a classic rock band?
My recent acquisition on a new R800c along with playing widely diverse venues, I've been taking full advantage of my R's utility regarding the power switch. But being so close to the action, it's hard to tell which may sound better: HIGH POWER--Low Volume (Master) or LOW POWER--High Volume. Say output volume being roughly equal, which sounds better? At low power, volume ALL THE WAY UP or at high power volume set to get approximately the same level. I tend to be a pretty aggressive player.

Wudya think..?

Tim

Disclaimer: I am primarily a keyboardist that was playing guitar then switched to bass. This may skew my perception and "values". I tend to play assertively. Kinda like if Pete Townshend played bass at times to Yngwie Malmsteem playing bass at others.

https://c.tenor.com/yOoArhd_Z3kAAAAC/townshend-pete.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-14-2015/TG_cdJ.gif

There are virtues to both approaches. I use both approaches. Speaking very, very generally: having the power amp roar sounds great for impact while pushing the gain but not the master volume is better for sag and sustain. There are also wonderful shades in-between. I tend toward the "push the gain" side of the equation (for bass and guitar but push the master for keys).

edit: I always have my R100's gain at 3:00. It just sounds right to my ears. I am using a Fender Player Jazz.
 
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I had mentioned earlier that my bass player in a side project loved the way his upright sounded through my Rumble 100. Here he is.
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He just ran his bass with bridge Piezo, through my old K&K 2 band preamp, into the Rumble. It sounded great. We weren't running super loud, but it was very close to his bass and on stool on a thumpy wood porch floor and still there was zero feedback. Credible upright amplification at such a low price and light weight is really amazing.
My upright sounds great through my Rumble! You can plug in almost anything to one.
 
When I plug a stereo 3.5mm jack cable that isn't plugged into anything into the Aux in on my recently purchased, used, Rumble 100 the output of the amp jumps up, this is especially noticeable when listening on headphones. As soon as I plug the other end of the cable into something eg phone or laptop, the output level drops back down again.
Does this happen with anyone else's Rumble 100?

Both of my R100s do the same thing. I need to adjust to volume when I plug a device into aux in.
 
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I had a brief chance to plug my SGT-DI into the FX return of the R100. TL;DR: the R100 and SGT-DI are fairly meh to ugh together. They are better off separated. Still, just brief initial impressions.

All impressions are without a cab sim engaged.

First, the SVT circuit with low to mid SGT settings were pretty decent. Not up to the SGT-DI as a headphone amp or recording device through the DI but is "rockable".

Second, the B15 circuit with any SGT settings. Er...not so much. The R100's 12 is tuned different than the B15's 15 and it shows.

Third, the Preamp section of the SGT-DI alone into the R100. Not bad, but not as good as my RB-110. What struck me was the way highs were handled. There is a different quality to the frequency range but especially in the treble region. The R100, by itself, has a very nice "exciter"-like quality to the treble region. It lends itself well to no grit to mild grit. I missed that treble quality when using the SGT-DI with the R100.
 
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