Fender Rumble Club

[Andybass0077]

I played our first gig last night, which went really well, we had a load of people dancing and singing along. The bass was nice and clear and LOUD from my R500 stack. Awesome amp! I took the beer off the top before playing of course...

 

[Brandon Shea]

I took the beer off the top before playing of course...

That beer certainly wouldn't stay there for long if you didn't move it!

 

[G-Dog]

I played our first gig last night, which went really well, we had a load of people dancing and singing along. The bass was nice and clear and LOUD from my R500 stack. Awesome amp! I took the beer off the top before playing of course...
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Andy, is that your 210 cab under your Rumble 500? The cab cab looks a little short, or maybe it's the perspective.

 

[Andybass0077]

Andy, is that your 210 cab under your Rumble 500? The cab cab looks a little short, or maybe it's the perspective.

Haha yes, perspective mode on the camera making it look smaller.
I assure you it is just exactly as big and bulky as the top R500 amp. Still sooo much lighter than my old fender BXR300 though. That was probably about 50kg, and contributed to my current back pain

 

[swansong95]

Hello everyone!!

I am looking for a combo amp that will play on stage (90's cover band) as well as suffice for at home play. Currently, I am looking at the Rumble Stage 800 or just the Rumble 800. Does anyone have experience with those? I saw another thread about using two Rumble 100s together being quite capable of cutting through the noise of a guitar player (and drummer sometimes, lol) so the more I read the more I confuse myself....

Any input or advice will be greatly appreciated!

 

[Brandon Shea]

Hello everyone!!

I am looking for a combo amp that will play on stage (90's cover band) as well as suffice for at home play. Currently, I am looking at the Rumble Stage 800 or just the Rumble 800. Does anyone have experience with those? I saw another thread about using two Rumble 100s together being quite capable of cutting through the noise of a guitar player (and drummer sometimes, lol) so the more I read the more I confuse myself....

Any input or advice will be greatly appreciated!

The Rumble 800 and Stage 800 are both really cool, and I don't think you can actually go wrong with either. If you asked me to pick one today, I'd probably choose the "plain" Rumble 800 instead of the Stage, mostly because I appreciate the simplicity and lack of menus. It's also even lighter, which is a great bonus.

Have you used any amp modelers before, and if so, did you like them?

 

[M-Mittlesteadt]

Hello everyone!!

I am looking for a combo amp that will play on stage (90's cover band) as well as suffice for at home play. Currently, I am looking at the Rumble Stage 800 or just the Rumble 800. Does anyone have experience with those? I saw another thread about using two Rumble 100s together being quite capable of cutting through the noise of a guitar player (and drummer sometimes, lol) so the more I read the more I confuse myself....

Any input or advice will be greatly appreciated!

I have two Rumble 100's chained together (top controls, control both combos).

It gets insanely loud given it's a 100 watt amp into a 112 cab (as a combo). So two together is effectively a 200 watt 212 rig. And each combo weighs only 22 lbs. each.

I've played in outrageously loud rock cover bands before and my rig would have worked perfectly with 2 guitarists, keyboards and a loud drummer.

Both combos in this pic are the same Rumble 100's (V3)...one looks larger only because of the angle of the photo. With the Gain halfway up and the Master at about 2 (7 or 8 o'clock) I was already knocking things off shelves and the wall in my house.

I've had the Master up to "noon" only once and I couldn't tolerate volume output. It will easily handle any indoor gig, as well as an outdoor gig with PA support.

I used to design and build custom cabs. I was one of the first to build a fEARful 15/6 and used various amps from 800 to 1000 watts. Watts and speaker size are somewhat of a biased myth.

 

[swansong95]

The Rumble 800 and Stage 800 are both really cool, and I don't think you can actually go wrong with either. If you asked me to pick one today, I'd probably choose the "plain" Rumble 800 instead of the Stage, mostly because I appreciate the simplicity and lack of menus. It's also even lighter, which is a great bonus.

Have you used any amp modelers before, and if so, did you like them?

I have not used them before, and that is part of what has my attention about this particular combo. Modelers have been out long enough now that bugs should be (mostly) worked out so they may be stable enough to use live. So far, I agree with your assessment- Im pretty sure I cannot go wrong either way. That is the complicating factor!!

 

[swansong95]

I have two Rumble 100's chained together (top controls, control both combos).

It gets insanely loud given it's a 100 watt amp into a 112 cab (as a combo). So two together is effectively a 200 watt 212 rig. And each combo weighs only 22 lbs. each.

I've played in outrageously loud rock cover bands before and my rig would have worked perfectly with 2 guitarists, keyboards and a loud drummer.

Both combos in this pic are the same Rumble 100's (V3)...one looks larger only because of the angle of the photo. With the Gain halfway up and the Master at about 2 (7 or 8 o'clock) I was already knocking things off shelves and the wall in my house.

I've had the Master up to "noon" only once and I couldn't tolerate volume output. It will easily handle any indoor gig, as well as an outdoor gig with PA support.

See, I like that idea- one cab for home play and the second for gigs. Do you run a preamp or anything? Also, do you run from XLR Line out to AUX in? If not, how do you chain them?

 

[Deleted member 341607]

Obviously I’ve seen lots of info on these but I’ve never tried one before yesterday. Singer/songwriter project and I’m playing my EUB. He tells I don’t need an amp so I just show up (with my Roland Bass Cube in my car, because- guitarists). He did have rumble 100. It sounded great, decent sound shaping option, but jeez - the weight! This thing is seriously light. Kudos to Fender for getting this out there, especially for us old codgers!

 

[M-Mittlesteadt]

See, I like that idea- one cab for home play and the second for gigs. Do you run a preamp or anything? Also, do you run from XLR Line out to AUX in? If not, how do you chain them?

Effects Send on the top one to the Effects Return on the other. The bottom cab only uses it's own amp's power section (like any power amp would) although you need to use second cab's Master Volume. The Top combo tone controls control both combos.

And it's great if you want to leave one at rehearsal space and other for home. Bring one or both to gigs as needed. Even the single Rumble 100 can get very loud on it's own. The 112 speakers are very efficient and produce pretty high decibel output, especially for a 22 lb. amp/cab combo. More than any other combo I've used over the last 40+ years.

 

[swansong95]

Effects Send on the top one to the Effects Return on the other. The bottom cab only uses it's own amp's power section (like any power amp would) although you need to use second cab's Master Volume. The Top combo tone controls control both combos.

And it's great if you want to leave one at rehearsal space and other for home. Bring one or both to gigs as needed. Even the single Rumble 100 can get very loud on it's own. The 112 speakers are very efficient and produce pretty high decibel output, especially for a 22 lb. amp/cab combo. More than any other combo I've used over the last 40+ years.

That 22lb thing is a real serious plus. I still have my road case rack, hartke 4x10, and ampeg 1x15 and together those cabinets clock in a little over 140lbs! And that does NOT count the power amp, furman, and bbe sonic maximizer, and preamp. I guess I need to give the 100 a real listen!

 

[M-Mittlesteadt]

That 22lb thing is a real serious plus. I still have my road case rack, hartke 4x10, and ampeg 1x15 and together those cabinets clock in a little over 140lbs! And that does NOT count the power amp, furman, and bbe sonic maximizer, and preamp. I guess I need to give the 100 a real listen!

I use my custom pedalboard for everything, whether it's silent practice/writing/recording (with headphones), or velcroed to the top of my top combo for rehearsals/gigs. Zoom B1X into a small 4 channel Xenyx mixer...

Velcroed on top of my amp...

Or... sitting in my modded magazine rack/endtable for writing/recording in my living room...

 

[G-Dog]

Hello everyone!!

I am looking for a combo amp that will play on stage (90's cover band) as well as suffice for at home play. Currently, I am looking at the Rumble Stage 800 or just the Rumble 800. Does anyone have experience with those? I saw another thread about using two Rumble 100s together being quite capable of cutting through the noise of a guitar player (and drummer sometimes, lol) so the more I read the more I confuse myself....

Any input or advice will be greatly appreciated!

Howdy, swannie! Welcome to TalkBass!!

We're always glad to help a prospective new Rumbler. Seems you've cast a pretty wide net considering both modeling and non-modeling Rumbles. You might start with the Rumble 40-100-200-500 manual of non-modeling amps, since they are pretty straightforward. All of the Rumbles can be chained like the 100s, just pick a power level, or two, and go. Many use two Rumble 500 combos, without extra cabs, for a 700 watt stack.

Then, you can browse through the Rumble Stage 800 & Studio 40 manual, to get an idea if the modeling features interest you. Yes, there are many Rumblers who gig their modeling amps, see our Rumble LT25, Studio 40 & Stage 800 sub-thread of users.

I have not used them [modeling amps] before, and that is part of what has my attention about this particular combo. Modelers have been out long enough now that bugs should be (mostly) worked out so they may be stable enough to use live. So far, I agree with your assessment- Im pretty sure I cannot go wrong either way. That is the complicating factor!!

Yes, the modeling Rumbles are now 7ender's 3rd generation of bass modeling amps, and first cousins to the new groundbreaking 7ender Tone Master Pro® modeling system.

I find something new to try almost every time I "fiddle" with my now 6-years-old Rumble Studio 40, and I love it! But, of course, too, it's that "fiddle factor" that some bassists lose patience with. Fortunately, the chain the 25, 40, 200 & 500 combos in many different ways puts an intuitive user interface right on your phone or tablet! There's no easier way to control such an extensively modeled system of amps, cabs & pedals.

See, I like that idea- one cab for home play and the second for gigs. Do you run a preamp or anything? Also, do you run from XLR Line out to AUX in? If not, how do you chain them?

Effects Send on the top one to the Effects Return on the other. ... ... ...​

FX Send to FX Return is the best, easiest way to connect two Rumbles, but there have been many more complicated connections tried by our Rumblers. The 100 is just the smallest & lightest with FX Loops. But you can Rumble LT25, Studio 40 & Stage 800 sub-thread.

Please stay in touch, @swansong95, as you do your Rumble shopping. And don't forget to soundcheck them in your local music stores, even the modeling amps. And don't hesitate to ask questions here about anything at all.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Effects Send on the top one to the Effects Return on the other. The bottom cab only uses it's own amp's power section (like any power amp would) although you need to use second cab's Master Volume. The Top combo tone controls control both combos.

And it's great if you want to leave one at rehearsal space and other for home. Bring one or both to gigs as needed. Even the single Rumble 100 can get very loud on it's own. The 112 speakers are very efficient and produce pretty high decibel output, especially for a 22 lb. amp/cab combo. More than any other combo I've used over the last 40+ years.

This is my setup for playing out, as well. I love it. (I only use one in my practice room.)

But … some new R100 r3 combos have the fx send/return after the preamp and its controls rather than before them. If you were to end up with those, you’d care about identical control settings on both.

 

[G-Dog]

... ... ... But … some new R100 r3 combos have the fx send/return after the preamp and its controls rather than before them. If you were to end up with those, you’d care about identical control settings on both.

All Rumble V3 100 combos have the FX Send/Return after the preamp and it's controls, else there would be no preamp signal for the FX Send to send.

I think you mean that the older Rumble V3 100 combos have the Master volume control before the FX Send/Return, allowing them to control the volume of the second combo. But some newer Rumble V3 100 combos have the Master volume control after the FX Send/Return, which doesn't allow the first combo to control the volume of the second combo. Then you must manually control volume of each newer combo with it's own Master control.

(Also, these newer Rumble V3 100 combos have a Pre/Post button on their XLR Outputs that the other R40 - R500 combos do not. That's it, just some, not all, Rumble V3 100 combos.)

 

[M-Mittlesteadt]

All Rumble V3 100 combos have the FX Send/Return after the preamp and it's controls, else there would be no preamp signal for the FX Send to send.

I think you mean that the older Rumble V3 100 combos have the Master volume control before the FX Send/Return, allowing them to control the volume of the second combo. But some newer Rumble V3 100 combos have the Master volume control after the FX Send/Return, which doesn't allow the first combo to control the volume of the second combo. Then you must manually control volume of each combo with it's own Master control.

(Also, these newer Rumble V3 100 combos have a Pre/Post button on their XLR Outputs that the other R40 - R500 combos do not. That's it, just some, not all, Rumble V3 100 combos.)

Yes. I verified that on my Rumble 100's I have to adjust the second combo's Master Volume separately. It's not a big deal for me. Ideally it would be great if my first Master Volume controlled both, but so long as I match them, I can adjust my onstage volume from the mixer on my pedalboard. Within reason of course, as my mixer's master volume is before the combo's input. But, a little adjustment on the mixer goes a long way.

It's kind of a "gain staging" without overdriving the combos' preamp.

 

[bigbri5050]

I would say 200 watts peak, not continuous.
Don't most amp mfgs rate their amps for peak power?



Here's how 2 v3 R100 combos can chain together to get 100watts + 100watts. This is the physical connection:
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This is the logical diagram (modified from page 10 of the OWNER'S MANUAL):
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The little switch built into the EFFECTS RETURN jack (A) disconnects everything above the blue line, which includes every user-adjustable control including overdrive, three little tone profile buttons, all the knobs. Every user-adjustable control setting on the master (SEND) amp is sent to both amps -- master and slave.

As an aside, there is a lot of Rumble magic happening between the FX RETURN and the POWER AMP, but we users have no control over that. There's some pretty impressive magic in the SPEAKER CABINET SIMULATOR circuitry (B) which allows Fender to use inexpensive and light cabinets to produce that big sound we find so addictive!

Thank you for this diagram. It is very useful. By the way, I contacted Fender U.S.A. about the power rating and they said that all their amps are r.m.s. rated.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Thank you for this diagram. It is very useful. By the way, I contacted Fender U.S.A. about the power rating and they said that all their amps are r.m.s. rated.

Yeah. I don't know about "most". I just know you have to verify any numbers that don't tell you exactly what they reference. There is no excuse for a mfr not to make that known up front.

 

[G-Dog]

Thank you for this diagram. It is very useful. By the way, I contacted Fender U.S.A. about the power rating and they said that all their amps are r.m.s. rated.

Yeah. I don't know about "most". I just know you have to verify any numbers that don't tell you exactly what they reference. There is no excuse for a mfr not to make that known up front.

I would agree that 7ender does consistently, and conservatively, rate their amps in RMS.

But, unfortunately, they use a dual rating on their speaker cabs, both continuous (like RMS) and program, with program being exactly twice the continuous ratings. So, guess which one the marketers emphasize! Beware marketing!!!

In this example, the Rumble 115 cab is rated 300 watts continuous and 600 watts program. But, what does that mean? Continuous ratings (like RMS) are rigorous, conservative power handling over a significant span of time, while program ratings are very short-term measurements, usually milliseconds, not intended for long-term application.

But, try as I may to warn Rumblers that this specific cab is not a good choice for handling up to 400 watts continuous from a Rumble 800 amp, they still buy it!! I can only assume that it's a testament to 7ender's very conservative ratings that we haven't had more, or any?, complaints on this.

Kinda like when 7ender came out with the Rumble Stage 800 combo and then dressed up the Rumble 210 350 watt continuous, 700 watt program, cab to take it's 400 watt continuous output (after using the exact same speakers in the combo for the initial 400 watts continuous!). So, ... uh, ...

Rumble On!
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