Excellent points, bdplaid. It is true that amps (and other things) have their sweet spot. Tube amps are the best example of that but even the solid state amps show this. But I loved the tone of the 500 even at crazy-quiet levels.
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Excellent points, bdplaid. It is true that amps (and other things) have their sweet spot. Tube amps are the best example of that but even the solid state amps show this. But I loved the tone of the 500 even at crazy-quiet levels.
It's no secret that almost all the tone magic comes from the V3's front end, and we can thank the genius of Fender's Principal Engineer, Dave Lewis for that magic. He knows how to make all those crazy fast invisible electrons sound stellar.
Thx, I guess you're being slightly rhetorical but it comes off more patronizing and dismissive, forgive me if I take you wrong, but seriously, I'm not looking to spend $1,200, not trying to duplicate a Eden 410XLT, I don't want a Rumble head, or a 2nd 410 cab, or a review of a 2x410 stack. Just curious how a single 410 Rumble cab sounds relative to other 410 cabs out there. cheers.
All in the world you have to do is go to either Sweetwater in Fort Wanye, IN or Larry Hartke's Bass Experience at Sam Ash Manhattan and make some some live A/B comparisons for yourself. Have a lovely trip!
I didn't mean to be dismissive in my reply, but truly don't know how to describe the sound with words. When Randy and I tested the rig out on Saturday, we tried a bunch of extreme EQ settings, and you could go from no bottom end to shake the house bottom end with that Bass/Low EQ knob.
When I say it makes my Bass sound like what I believe a Bass should sound like, it's pretty much in credit to the Fender engineers that designed the Amp and Cabinets. With everything set flat, it sounds like it should, to me - it sounds like my Bass. I would expect that it sounds like it should to most folks, or they should be able to get it to sound the way that they like with the range of EQ available.
It's not an expensive cab, and I'm sure there are "better" cabs out there, but I'm happy with it. I doubt it would do much good to try to record it, because it would be difficult, if not impossible, to exactly re-produce the sounds coming out of the cab at the other end.
I wish I could be more help, but as suggested above, probably best if you could to try to compare them and hear it for yourself. If you're near StL, I'd be happy to demo it for you.
I do know that the next time I use it I'll have ear plugs handy - then maybe I will take the Master knob past noon.
Cheers,
When I say it makes my Bass sound like what I believe a Bass should sound like, it's pretty much in credit to the Fender engineers that designed the Amp and Cabinets. With everything set flat, it sounds like it should, to me - it sounds like my Bass. I would expect that it sounds like it should to most folks, or they should be able to get it to sound the way that they like with the range of EQ available.
It's not an expensive cab, and I'm sure there are "better" cabs out there, but I'm happy with it. I doubt it would do much good to try to record it, because it would be difficult, if not impossible, to exactly re-produce the sounds coming out of the cab at the other end.
I wish I could be more help, but as suggested above, probably best if you could to try to compare them and hear it for yourself. If you're near StL, I'd be happy to demo it for you.
I do know that the next time I use it I'll have ear plugs handy - then maybe I will take the Master knob past noon.
Cheers,
uncle!All in the world you have to do is go to either Sweetwater in Fort Wanye, IN or Larry Hartke's Bass Experience at Sam Ash Manhattan and make some some live A/B comparisons for yourself. Have a lovely trip!
Wait, maybe I can just order one of every type of 410 cab Sweetwarer sells, compare them all, and then send them all back for a refund! Look for a big shootout thread in weeks to come
(of course I would've just tested a Rumble 410 at my local GC, but it's out of stock and they don't plan to restock it, just special orders... sign of the end times for brick and mortar?)
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I don't think they stock Rumble 410s at GC stores (or any 410s, for that matter, in the stores I've been to), but thought some of the others may (Sam Ash, Sweetwater, etc.). I do like your idea of ordering them all, keeping the one you like best, then returning the others.uncle!
Wait, maybe I can just order one of every type of 410 cab Sweetwarer sells, compare them all, and then send them all back for a refund! Look for a big shootout thread in weeks to come
(of course I would've just tested a Rumble 410 at my local GC, but it's out of stock and they don't plan to restock it, just special orders... sign of the end times for brick and mortar?)
Cheers,
Yep, the definition of a "farmer" (brother and I run 12 head of cattle, have a dozen or so chickens, 3 Guinea Hens, 2 Ducks [both Drakes], and pair of Pyrenees to keep the varmints away).
Another definition that I like - "Expert" is a drip under pressure....
Cheers,
Here listen to this. It's Mel Brown playing a passive MIM Dimension through a Bassman 500 head on top of a Bassman Pro Neo 410. The cab is $700. I'd choose this over the very overpriced Eden any day. If you can afford it, buy it. If you can't, then buy a Rumble 410.uncle!
Wait, maybe I can just order one of every type of 410 cab Sweetwarer sells, compare them all, and then send them all back for a refund! Look for a big shootout thread in weeks to come
(of course I would've just tested a Rumble 410 at my local GC, but it's out of stock and they don't plan to restock it, just special orders... sign of the end times for brick and mortar?)
As always avoid all dampeg like the Ebola virus.
Wrong video? At 0:37, that's a Rumble 500 atop a Rumble Cab, but not the 410 (too narrow). Sounds pretty good, to me....
Cheers,
All the guy is asking for is a comparison of Rumble 410 to any other 410 in existence, not video of a different head with a different cab and an uncommon bass. I know people are trying to help, but... Wish I could help but because stores don't stock the Rumble 410 I've never heard one. If I was really interested, I'd buy one from GC and if I didn't like it I'd take it back to the store - no return shipping involved.
However, since having zero knowledge doesn't seem to to stop anyone in this forum from giving an opinion I will say the Rumble 410 sounds... purple. No, more like magenta. No...
Sure, but only his ears and head and bass and brains can tell him if he likes it or not. Same thing with strings, amps, cabs, basses, cars, girls, boys, burgers, pies. It's the way of the world.
I like oranges, but i don't like Orange amps.
So since we are attempting to describe the ineffable subtleties of sound, here is another question:
what exactly do I get when I add the 1x15 cab to my Fender Rumble 500 combo? I know it would unleash the full 500 watts of course. And it would add more volume. But that 15" should add some heft and fullness to the lower end, yes? Does it actually extend the frequency range? (Fender doesn't provide frequency specs, right?) So get out your Thesaurus and hit me with all those adjectives that will describe what that combination would give me (and yeah, yeah, I know I need to hear it for myself but no one carries it 'round these here parts...)
what exactly do I get when I add the 1x15 cab to my Fender Rumble 500 combo? I know it would unleash the full 500 watts of course. And it would add more volume. But that 15" should add some heft and fullness to the lower end, yes? Does it actually extend the frequency range? (Fender doesn't provide frequency specs, right?) So get out your Thesaurus and hit me with all those adjectives that will describe what that combination would give me (and yeah, yeah, I know I need to hear it for myself but no one carries it 'round these here parts...)
EXTC!
Yes, a good 3-5 dB in SPL. Balls. Yes, more Ballz. Fun. Much more.
Do you have a chance to listen to a Rumble 200? Some will say the 15 doesn't necessarily go "lower", but, in my opinion, it pushes more air or something. I love my 200. I believe the 115 cab has the same speaker. I would like to get a 115 cab to increase my wattage to the full 200. I still think 15's sound best.
Or something. The Eminence 15 is magic. Everyone at Fender and Eminence says so. I've played it and love it and believe it.
