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Fender Rumble Club

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theevilplankton said:
I've been looking at the Fender specs on the 115 vs the 500 cab re output and power, and I'm even more confused!

The 15" is warmer, 10s more punchy?

I'm just trying to establish if I'd be losing anything output wise going down the head/cab route.
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First always compare speaker cabinets with the continuous wattage rating.
Rumble 115: 300 watts continuous and 600 watts program. The program rating simply means it will handle short transient peaks of power.
Rumble 210: 350 watts continuous and 700 program. I chose the 210 as it is the same size box and exact same drivers as the Rumble 500 combo.

The Rumble 500 head will put out 350 clean continuous watts into any 8 ohm cabinet. Unless you are cranking the master volume all the way, you will be fine using a 115 cab.

As far as warmth goes, that comes from the amp itself and is the major reason some bass players will pay BIG BUCKS for a Fender Super Bassman all tube amp. The new V3 Rumbles are among the 'warmest' and most natural sounding solid state bass amps made at any price with the new Bassman 500 being the best of both worlds.

I'm a fan of 15's, and to me they have broader & smoother along with wider dispersion of the entire midrange especially the all important low mids. They move about the same amount of air as 210's.

'Punch' is a type of attack that really comes from the bass itself and the authority with which the bass player's style & technique presents itself to the amp. 10" woofers tend to react a little quicker due to smaller & lighter cones, but we are talking micro-seconds and is barely detectable by the musician.

I suggest you audition a Rumble 200 combo. At reasonable volume that will tell the tale. Same front end in the same size box as the 500. At practice volumes the difference in wattage is a moot point.
 
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Linnin said:
As far as warmth goes, that comes from the amp itself and is the major reason some bass players will pay BIG BUCKS for a Fender Super Bassman all tube amp. The new V3 Rumbles are among the 'warmest' and most natural sounding solid state bass amps made at any price with the new Bassman 500 being the best of both worlds.
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This. It's hard to overestimate the warmth and awesomeness of a Rumble 500 combo. As I detailed in a previous post, It completely wiped the floor with a professional EBS tube rig that cost five times as much.
 
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#11,546
munkeyfish said:
How bad of an idea would be to add feet to the side of the 210 cab and use it side ways? Thinking about doing that to 2 of these cabs to use with larger heads when not using the Rumble 500 head. Mainly thinly Bassman 500.
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I see no reason why you shouldn’t try it. You just need to get some rubber feet. You can screw them on with the existing screws that hold the metal corner protectors on so you don’t have to make any new holes. If you don’t like it then you can put it back like it was and nobody would even know.
 
#11,547
Like some of u already know , i had an sold a rumble v3 200c ... and bought the head version ... initially i wanted to get 2 1x12' cabs to do a 2x12 stack ... but lately been thinking about 2 2x10 cabs instead ... or may b 1x12 + 2x10 ... i guess i just want to know some of u 200 rumble head owners ... what kind of combination of cabs are u using and why ???? I know i have to listen to get my own idea n stuff ... im just looking to know whats working for some of u ... thanks
 
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#11,548
Ok, crunch time.

Patiently waited to get a killer deal on a bass via the local cl. Scored a Peavey Foundation today.... an older one with the super ferrite pups..... in great condition... for just over 160 bucks. Recently restrung as well :bassist:

So, the local GC has the 200 combo in stock or I can order the 500 from Sweetwater and have it here tomorrow since I'm close.

I had decided I don't need 500 watts but I reckon I should go ahead and pull the trigger since I had budgeted 500.00 for a bass and scored the Peavey for near peanuts.

I'll be playing classic rock, older R&B, Motown, and Alt country 90% of the time. So that said, would I be better off going with the 210 ext cab or the 115 cab paired with the 500 combo.

Linnin, you already told me a 210 would be better than a 410 cab with the 500 combo, but going by what genres I mentioned, how would the 115 work ? Still recommend the 210 ?

Anyone else's advice welcome as well :help:

Just want to make a good choice ... I've been out of the bass gear know for quite a while.
 
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#11,549
Congratulations on your new bass aquisition @lowplaces.

Older R&B, Motown, and Memphis Soul was all done with 15's. 10's were not nearly as wide ranging or robust then as they are today. So called 'Classic Rock' used everything and sometimes all at once!

I am biased towards modern 12's as they represent 'the do it all' woofer. A pair of Rumble 112's gives you a great mini-stack with a small footprint that is light and easy to move. I also think they will give you your best sound for your 200 watts.

But if you want 210's + 115, go for it as many have. It's a proven performer with much praise driven testimony within these very pages.
 
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munkeyfish said:
How bad of an idea would be to add feet to the side of the 210 cab and use it side ways? Thinking about doing that to 2 of these cabs to use with larger heads when not using the Rumble 500 head. Mainly thinly Bassman 500.
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I think everything is cool except you are giving up some of the advantage of stacking cabs (if you are stacking multiple 210s) or all of the advantage if you're using one cabinet. [The side-by-side drivers of the '50s-'60s combos is not an efficient way to distribute sound; it creates strong lobes up and down (toward the ceiling and the floor -- echos) and less out to the sides, making the speakers fairly directional as to what the audience is experiencing. Audience off to the sides will not get the best of your sound.] I don't know how much the offset of the 2 10-inch drivers in the v3 Rumbles effects the dispersion pattern.

Yes, the Bassman 500 is too wide for v3 2x10 cabinets in their designed vertical orientation. I haven't experimented with this yet because my Bassman 500 head is still on back-order at GC so I don't know if it's just an aesthetic thing or if the head sits steady without scratching the 210 cab.

However, it sure fits sweetly on the 4x10 or 1x15 cabs!

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I err on the conservative side when it comes to speaker positioning and orientation. From my ham radio days, I learned that the antenna is the most important part of any rig and our speakers are the "antennas" of our bass rigs. There's a reason all the new compact PAs use vertical arrays of speakers. Bad radiator orientation can negate the goodness of a strong amp. Fine-tuning driver orientation in a venue is the least straight-forward part of any gig set-up.
 
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#11,553
theevilplankton said:
I know it's the Rumble club.....but I can't stop staring at the pictures of the Bassman 500 head.

If only my cashflow could match! It sure looks great on top of a Rumble 115.......!
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Yeah I know! Good thing this is the Fender Rumble Club ;) I played one not too long ago on top of a Bassman Pro 115 Neo cabinet, and it was absolutely Killer! :bassist:
 
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I am neither a member nor an owner but I felt I should pop in to mention my experience last evening. I visited a Tuesday night Blues Jam at a bar here in Toronto’s east end. I did my bit and was pleasantly surprised how well the backline amp handled my six string. The Low B was clear and undistorted and my fretless just sang through it. :)

Amp turned out to be a Fender Rumble 350 with 2x10s. I see what all you folks are raving about. It’s the best Fender bass amp I’ve ever played through. :)

:D
 
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BassmanPaul said:
I am neither a member nor an owner but I felt I should pop in to mention my experience last evening. I visited a Tuesday night Jam at a bar here in Toronto’s east end. I did my bit and was pleasantly surprised how well the backline amp handled my six string. The Low B was clear and undistorted and my fretless just sang through it. :)

Amp turned out to be a Fender Rumble 350 with 2x10s. I see what all you folks are raving about. It’s the best Fender bass amp I’ve ever played through. :)

:D
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Thanks for the kind words @BassmanPaul :thumbsup: The Rumble 350 combo you were playing through was a second generation Rumble from 2010-2013.
You should try the new V3 Rumble 500! :woot: :cool: Rumble On! :cool:
 
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BassmanPaul said:
I am neither a member nor an owner but I felt I should pop in to mention my experience last evening. I visited a Tuesday night Blues Jam at a bar here in Toronto’s east end. I did my bit and was pleasantly surprised how well the backline amp handled my six string. The Low B was clear and undistorted and my fretless just sang through it. :)

Amp turned out to be a Fender Rumble 350 with 2x10s. I see what all you folks are raving about. It’s the best Fender bass amp I’ve ever played through. :)

:D
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So have you ordered yours yet? @Linnin has his finger on the keyboard ready to assign you a number.
 
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