• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Fender Rumble Club

You are actually boosting everything way too much! Stop It! Go and consult the Rumble Tone Pool, and do some research. Also take time to read through the various Rumble Talks for in depth inside information.

I hope you haven't damaged your woofers. Pull the grill off, and check each one for rubbing/scrapping of the voice coil. If that's the case, they need to be reconed. If they are good, be sure to re-torque each driver in a star pattern and don't over tighten.

And finally, are you a member of the Fender Rumble Club?

A visual inspection of the speakers doesn't seem to indicate any physical damage or anything that looks abnormal to my eyes. Should I be doing anything else to check?

Also yes I am a member of the rumble club. It's in my sig but I don't think those show on mobile?

Thanks for the advice (you and everyone)... I'll start taking it right away and let you know how it goes
 
A visual inspection of the speakers doesn't seem to indicate any physical damage or anything that looks abnormal to my eyes. Should I be doing anything else to check?
Yes. Using your thumb and fingers in a circle push in & out gently on each woofer where the dust cap meets the cone. If you feel any scraping of the voice coil that's bad. If your drivers were truly blown/damaged, you would hear it all the time even at lower volumes.

Do re-torque your drivers.

Read about the Delta-Comp Limiter. That'll enlighten you.
 
A visual inspection of the speakers doesn't seem to indicate any physical damage or anything that looks abnormal to my eyes. Should I be doing anything else to check?

Also yes I am a member of the rumble club. It's in my sig but I don't think those show on mobile?

Thanks for the advice (you and everyone)... I'll start taking it right away and let you know how it goes
Gently push in on the speaker to feel if there is any rubbing or scraping. That is for the coil though, a weakened spider may not cause any rubbing or scraping, but the speaker won't have as tight a suspension as it should. If both don't feel the same, then one might be going. If both feel the same, then I guess you would have to compare it to another one to be sure. The fact that this was a rather sudden change after unsuccessfully using a fuzz does point to some mechanical damage being done. It will first manifest itself in farty lows and no electrical damage to the coil is necessary. Farting where there was no farting before, is not speaker break in, otherwise nobody would want their speakers broken in.
 
Yes. Using your thumb and fingers in a circle push in & out gently on each woofer where the dust cap meets the cone. If you feel any scraping of the voice coil that's bad. If your drivers were truly blown/damaged, you would hear it all the time even at lower volumes.

Do re-torque your drivers.

Read about the Delta-Comp Limiter. That'll enlighten you.
True for blown voice coils, but the mechanical piston (spider) can be damaged where it does not show on lower volumes or with lows taken out. I once "blew" the 2x8 of a peavey 1516 messing around with my swr head running full range into them at high volume. OOPS! Still sounded OK when used with the crossover. The 10s in an 1810/1820 can handle it, but those 8s, not so much.

Its not always the coil that goes. And his description of symptoms points towards the spiders. Either would require a recone, I'm sure the warranty would cover it, though they are likely to just replace the speakers instead.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Linnin
Took my own advice and re-torqued my drivers in my Rumble 200. I'm positive I did this when it first arrived, but not since. A good quarter turn on each of the 8 screws snugged it down, and a second trip around for a final bit of twist. There. Done. Five minutes. Tweeter was fine.

The more you play at band/gig volume, and the more you transport, the more often you need to do this. Just don't be a gorilla and strip out the t-nuts. Use finesse.
 
Rumble + svt810e
20160724_121859.jpg
 
Hey guys,

So I double checked the speakers... still no signs of physical damage.

I took Linnin and ubernator's advice and pressed down on the speakers to check for rubbing or scraping .. nothing there. I did notice though, that the top speaker moves with a little bit less tension or "stiffness" than the bottom one does. The difference however, seems to be extremely minimal and very slight.

I'm going to take the advice of lowering my boosts on the EQ and see how it goes from here. I'll be using it at higher volumes this coming Tuesday at practice, so I'll see how it goes then and keep everyone updated.

The good news, like many have mentioned, is that I'm still under warranty and there's a Fender authorized repair shop like 5-10 miles from where I live here in St. Pete Florida.

Thank you all for the advice and guidance.... At the end of the day I am thankful for this awesome community and the lessons learned from its fantastic members!!

Rest assured.... I will rumble on! :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Linnin
Hey guys,

So I double checked the speakers... still no signs of physical damage.

I took Linnin and ubernator's advice and pressed down on the speakers to check for rubbing or scraping .. nothing there. I did notice though, that the top speaker moves with a little bit less tension or "stiffness" than the bottom one does. The difference however, seems to be extremely minimal and very slight.

I'm going to take the advice of lowering my boosts on the EQ and see how it goes from here. I'll be using it at higher volumes this coming Tuesday at practice, so I'll see how it goes then and keep everyone updated.

The good news, like many have mentioned, is that I'm still under warranty and there's a Fender authorized repair shop like 5-10 miles from where I live here in St. Pete Florida.

Thank you all for the advice and guidance.... At the end of the day I am thankful for this awesome community and the lessons learned from its fantastic members!!

Rest assured.... I will rumble on! :)
The speaker with less tension might be the culprit. Keep monitoring it to see if it gets worse. Would be a good idea to take the grille off and watch them as you sustain a low note and turn up the volume, a speaker with a bad spider will tend to overextend and fart while the good one wont.
 
I'm going to take the advice of lowering my boosts on the EQ and see how it goes from here. I'll be using it at higher volumes this coming Tuesday at practice,
It is not unusual to go into subtractive EQ at high SPL. What I noticed is that your bass, lo & hi mids were boosted to 2 o'clock and treble at 4 o'clock. You get the same EQ if you simply boost the treble to 2 o'clock and leave everything else flat.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DerekW
It is not unusual to go into subtractive EQ at high SPL. What I noticed is that your bass, lo & hi mids were boosted to 2 o'clock and treble at 4 o'clock. You get the same EQ if you simply boost the treble to 2 o'clock and leave everything else flat.

Yup.

And yeah, that's a lot of boost, on my 500 head, I've got the bass cut at 10-11:00 and slight boost on both mids, slight.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Linnin
Yea, my living room is boomy. Actually sounds fine just running the top cab but I run both for now till they break in a bit.

Having a hard time .. Actually no luck at all finding a band yet. Tried Craigslist but nobody reads the ad. I finally just took the ad down in frustration. I make it clear I'm looking to do Americana / Alt Country originals and I keep getting contacted by guys that can' t even name an Alt Country band lol.

Audition for two so far and they like me but in both cases they only had two or three original songs and they were blues or rock songs. I listen to blues and rock but that's not what I'm looking for band wise.

Anyhoo .....
 
  • Like
Reactions: Linnin
Yea, my living room is boomy. Actually sounds fine just running the top cab but I run both for now till they break in a bit.

Having a hard time .. Actually no luck at all finding a band yet. Tried Craigslist but nobody reads the ad. I finally just took the ad down in frustration. I make it clear I'm looking to do Americana / Alt Country originals and I keep getting contacted by guys that can' t even name an Alt Country band lol.

Audition for two so far and they like me but in both cases they only had two or three original songs and they were blues or rock songs. I listen to blues and rock but that's not what I'm looking for band wise.

Anyhoo .....
Once topped the alt country chart on a college radio station, and we were a neo rockabilly/blues/surf sounding band at the time, go figure. That held for a couple weeks maybe. We did open for hank III and dick dale, and played on mostly rockabilly and psychobilly bills. And cowpunk, lots of cowpunk. Red eye gravy, scotch greens, cool regional bands about 15 years ago, don't think they are still around. The rumble would have looked perfect then, but I was shamelessly rocking the swr. Would do it again in a heartbeat, but the main dude is in prison and I think the drummer wouldn't be interested anyway.
 
  • Like
Reactions: lowplaces
Floydfest has a nice lineup !
It really has become a big deal, and unfortunately more expensive each year. Floyd is a small town south of Roanoke, and it became very bohemian with various artists and musicians moving in for cheaper living yet easy drive to either Roanoke or Blacksburg (Va Tech) for employment. I'm about 100 miles north in the middle of the Shenandoah Valley.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 99Z3 and lowplaces
Once topped the alt country chart on a college radio station, and we were a neo rockabilly/blues/surf sounding band at the time, go figure. That held for a couple weeks maybe. We did open for hank III and dick dale, and played on mostly rockabilly and psychobilly bills. And cowpunk, lots of cowpunk. Red eye gravy, scotch greens, cool regional bands about 15 years ago, don't think they are still around. The rumble would have looked perfect then, but I was shamelessly rocking the swr. Would do it again in a heartbeat, but the main dude is in prison and I think the drummer wouldn't be interested anyway.

Cool to get recognition !

My only claim to fame is breaking the top 5 for a couple of weeks on SoundClick alternative country chart. A terrible one take rough demo of a song I wrote. Just acoustic and vocal. A gal that had a podcast up somewhere in Maine contacted me and asked me if she could put it in a rotation.
I don't know. .. Might not have sounded that bad. I just hate recording stuff. I put it on Soundclick because a friend dared me too.