Fender Rumble Club

[JakobT]

Overheard at my local music store, from a salesperson to a customer looking at a Rumble 200c: "This is nice and light, but in order to sound good a bass amp needs to be heavy." I would really have liked to be there to see his face melt when the customer fired up the 200.

 

[Linnin]

Happy Fender Friday!

 

[mjb23gvsu]

Welcome and congrats on the Rumble !

I've got a Rumble 500 head sitting on top of 2 v3 112's but I'd love to have a 25 to use to jam with acoustic players.

Even after you get beyond the beginner level you'll be glad you have that little 25 around at times !

Thank you! I've checked out some heads and cabs online just because I love looking at gear, but that's putting the cart way before the horse! The 25 should be plenty of amp for me to learn on, and if I get to the point where I need to upgrade, I'll plan on keeping the 25 to practice in the basement or jam with friends.

 

[Rev. Cornelius]

Good morning. 2 questions for the group.

1. Are the speakers in the Rumble 210 extension cab the same as the 2 speakers in the 500 combo?
2. How would you compare tonal differences between the 200/115 and the 500/210? Tone only, not volume or headroom.

Thanks

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

By "PROPER P", are you referring to the maple board?

Well, I do prefer maple; however, I meant it has the Fender logo. It is not a copy.

 

[Linnin]

1. Are the speakers in the Rumble 210 extension cab the same as the 2 speakers in the 500 combo?

Yes, they are identical as is the cabinet.

2. How would you compare tonal differences between the 200/115 and the 500/210?

Very slight given the identical front ends running into ICE power sections. It is a matter of subjectivity as to which sounds better. I prefer the 200 and the Eminence 15, most others prefer the twin Eminence 10's. Do yourself a favor and A/B both combos and then you will know for yourself which one you like best.

 

[Aahzz]

Well, I do prefer maple; however, I meant it has the Fender logo. It is not a copy.

That works too

 

[ubernator]

By "PROPER P", are you referring to the maple board?

What would a mike lull, lakland, sadowski, g&l P be considered? Proper+?

 

[Linnin]

What would a mike lull, lakland, sadowski, g&l P be considered? Proper+?

Improper copies of an original. There is only one Precision electric bass guitar, and that is a Fender Precision.

 

[ubernator]

Improper copies of an original. There is only one Precision electric bass guitar, and that is a Fender Precision.

Well in the case of the brands I mentioned, they are not improper copies, they are boutique quality versions of the mass produced original. Less so for the g&l, though it is a fender baby though not as boutique as the others.

Fenders are fine for me, but I respect what these high end builders do with the classic fender designs, for them rich folk out there. They can't be lumped in the same category as "fender copies"

Personally, if I am going to spend that much more on a bass, it isn't (and hasn't) going to be a fender style, in fact, back in 2000 the same price got you either an Ernie ball stingray or sterling (ebmm bass not the later sterling brand), or a warwick FNA, which also had the same style pickup/eq. One was hand made in San Luis obisbo of your regular fender tonewoods, and the other was built by west German robots with exotic wood necks, and much more adjustable hardware and super reinforced necks. So I own fenders for fenders, and Warwick's for "stingrays". Worked out pretty well.

Though I did manic purchase 3 stingrays ranging from the $2k classic, BFR HH and a standard. Of course I had to sell them when I came too.

 

[Linnin]

They can't be lumped in the same category as "fender copies"

Sure they can because that is what they are. A copy is just that, a copy. Price makes no difference.

 

[ubernator]

Sure they can because that is what they are. A copy is just that, a copy. Price makes no difference.

Attention to detail was the main thing those were known for, so perhaps a Mike lull is a "copy" of a custom shop master built fender. (And thus less money) But they don't try to copy the headstock, that's for sure.

 

[ubernator]

These are not copies, other than the electronics of the Warwick's being stingray style. Add a honey violin colored 5 string of the same style (wick FNA), my avatar P-bass, my first run Geddy Lee jazz, an ibanez Sr500 and an OLP MM2 (licensed stingray copy), and that's why I don't really have much bass gas, and it didn't totally kill me when the SG short scale and the steinberger spirit xt2 got stolen a few years ago.

 

[Linnin]

But they don't try to copy the headstock, that's for sure.

because that is lawsuit city

 

[99Z3]

Well in the case of the brands I mentioned, they are not improper copies, they are boutique quality versions of the mass produced original. Less so for the g&l, though it is a fender baby though not as boutique as the others.

Fenders are fine for me, but I respect what these high end builders do with the classic fender designs, for them rich folk out there. They can't be lumped in the same category as "fender copies"

Personally, if I am going to spend that much more on a bass, it isn't (and hasn't) going to be a fender style, in fact, back in 2000 the same price got you either an Ernie ball stingray or sterling (ebmm bass not the later sterling brand), or a warwick FNA, which also had the same style pickup/eq. One was hand made in San Luis obisbo of your regular fender tonewoods, and the other was built by west German robots with exotic wood necks, and much more adjustable hardware and super reinforced necks. So I own fenders for fenders, and Warwick's for "stingrays". Worked out pretty well.

Though I did manic purchase 3 stingrays ranging from the $2k classic, BFR HH and a standard. Of course I had to sell them when I came too.

You know.. you made me think about these.

 

[ubernator]

Those US codas must be something else, but still Spector in the active eq sense. Some will disagree, but I never liked the eq fender puts on their deluxe/elite basses, so I don't consider fender active basses personally. My recent experience with an elite that blew me away visually, black pearl blocks! Same dead lifeless sterile eq I was used to with the deluxes.

Stick to passive with fender in my opinion. Those codas are fender inspired, but very Spector still.

 

[99Z3]

Not all of them have come out of the shop active

Those US codas must be something else, but still Spector in the active eq sense. Some will disagree, but I never liked the eq fender puts on their deluxe/elite basses, so I don't consider fender active basses personally. My recent experience with an elite that blew me away visually, black pearl blocks! Same dead lifeless sterile eq I was used to with the deluxes.

Stick to passive with fender in my opinion. Those codas are fender inspired, but very Spector still.

 

[99Z3]

Oh and personally, I don't care for passive at all.. sometimes passive pups.. but with a active pre.. like the K-HAZ or a Tone Capsule..

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

What would a mike lull, lakland, sadowski, g&l P be considered? Proper+?

Sorry, they can't be. Although excellent instruments, they are copies of an original designed and built by Fender.

 

[hotbass57]

Well, I got back earlier than expected today and found my 500c had in fact been delivered to the local GC. Checked it out, picked it up, brought it home, plugged it in and fell in love with it completely. I was a bit nervous since I'd only been able to try the 200 and 40 in advance, but I am super happy I went with the 500 - sounds freaking fantastic. Here's a pic of it with the new P Bass:

NICE ! You won't be disappointed in either!