Fender Rumble Club

[markcr]

I posted this in the Amps and Cabs forum but I thought I'd ask you guys about the Fender Rumble 410 v3 cabinet and how it stacks up against the Gallien Kruger 410 cabinets. Here is my post:

Hi. I'm looking to buy a 4x10 cabinet and there are 2 cabs in my local craigslist that I'm interested in. One is the Gallien Krueger 410 Neo and the other is the Gallien Krueger 410RBH. Both are in good condition and both are priced at $400 used. However, I can buy a new Fender Rumble 410 v3 cabinet for $399 from my local music store. I've been away from playing bass for the past 20 years and am just getting back into it. I bought a Gallien Krueger 700RB mkii and am now looking for a cabinet. In the 80's I used a GK 800RB for years and loved the tone - even though I had to replace power amp transistors occasionally. Any advice on the cabinets would be great! Thanks!

 

[Scott Truesdell]

This is true- but Fender makes it so hard to choose between 10s,12s,15s, lots of good choices that all sounds great.

That's smart marketing (Oh... you don't know how much it pains me to use the words "smart" and "marketing" in the same sentence!) What you do is take out the price factor in determining whether to buy any given brand (i.e. Fender.) There is a Fender bass amplification product for every price point from $79 to multi-thousand dollars. Same for instruments.

Can't own 'em all- that's my struggle.

Still, something to aspire to.

 

[Linnin]

Hi. I'm looking to buy a 4x10 cabinet and there are 2 cabs in my local craigslist that I'm interested in. One is the Gallien Krueger 410 Neo and the other is the Gallien Krueger 410RBH. Both are in good condition and both are priced at $400 used. However, I can buy a new Fender Rumble 410 v3 cabinet for $399 from my local music store.

Hello @markcr. Never buy used when you can buy better brand new for the same money. The GK410 Neo has a spotty rep for 'issues'. Their 410 RBH is a 96 pound trapezoid. No thanks.

 

[55Hurts]

Rumble 200 combo atop a 1x15 cab

• 55Hurts
• Aug 19, 2016

NAD!... that is a Rumble 200 combo sitting atop a 1x15 cab. It sounds absolutely terrific.

BTW, I had originally bought the Rumble 500 combo with 2x10, even though I had tried the 200 and liked it very much. In the store it was hard to tell if I liked the 500 as well, so I decided to err on the side of "more power is always better". I paired it up with the 1x15 and it sounded quite good. Still, every time I tried out a Rumble 200 in the stores (been GASsing lately), I thought there was just something about that 1x15 combo that I *really* liked; a certain warmth and a slight graininess to the sound that I just loved. After a month of this, yesterday I finally decided to take the 500 back to GC and exchange it for the 200. With the extra money that was left over, I applied it to a nice portable Rumble 100 to use as a bedroom practice amp and for impromptu low-wattage jams.

The 500 was great... but to me it had a somewhat tighter more modern edge to it than the 200s. The 500 combo paired OK with the 1x15 cab, but thought the 1x15 Rumble 200 combo might balance a bit better. I figured 200 watts with 2x15s would provide all the volume I'd need and would have a big full sound. I've always loved 15s. I have to say that it sounds fabulous.

 

[55Hurts]

BTW... I'm new here. Can I have a number? ;-)

 

[Linnin]

BTW... I'm new here. Can I have a number? ;-)

Welcome, and yes you can! Give @Gravedigger Dav some time as he actually has to work.

 

[JakobT]

Fort Worth, to be precise.
I never ask anyone where they are from. If they are from Texas, they will tell me, If they aren't from Texas, I don't want to embarrass them.

"That's right, you're not from Texas, Texas wants you anyway"

 

[JakobT]

lol

Also met the dude that played the old man in SOAP. He was making a film where he was acting as Abe Lincoln in Richmond. He was there every night at the club. Can't remember his name--he was really a nice guy. Could have been 1987. Not sure on the year--long time ago.

You mean Arthur Peterson, who played the Major?

 

[Steadfast]

You mean Arthur Peterson, who played the Major?

No--it just hit me--Richard Mulligan.

 

[JakobT]

No--it just hit me--Richard Mulligan.

Oh, him - He played Burt, Right? Always liked him.

 

[99Z3]

The Rumble cabs i have, are back on the block.. but they are going to evilbay too..

 

[btmpancake]

That's smart marketing (Oh... you don't know how much it pains me to use the words "smart" and "marketing" in the same sentence!) What you do is take out the price factor in determining whether to buy any given brand (i.e. Fender.) There is a Fender bass amplification product for every price point from $79 to multi-thousand dollars. Same for instruments.



Still, something to aspire to.

I agree with the smart marketing; A 112 or115 cab for $299.00 or a 210 cab for only $50.00 more= no real price factor. To me, the neo stuff just don't sound that great for the xtra money you spend, but they are lighter.

 

[btmpancake]

The Rumble cabs i have, are back on the block.. but they are going to evilbay too..

I only wished-nevermind- GLWTS 99Z3.

 

[99Z3]

Thank you sir!

I only wished-nevermind- GLWTS 99Z3.

 

[ubernator]

The tone, volume and dispersion of the two configurations will be nearly identical given the same amp, speakers, and cabinet volume. The head and 2 cabinets lists at $1,100 while the combo and one cabinet lists at $950, however the head and two cabinet configuration is more versatile.

Bob

Only if a 3rd cabinet is owned, otherwise only more versatile if the head fails, a backup head can be used, where if the combo fails you also lose a cabinet. I have always been a head cab guy, but the rumble and decreased available finances led me to to combo world. Of course I still maintain one big stack in storage.

You omiited one option I will include for price comparison.
1) Fender Rumble 500 Combo with one 2x10 Rumble extension cab

Combo is 599
2x10 cab is 299
Total is 898
​

2) Fender Rumble 500 head with two of the 2x10 Rumble cabs

Head is 399
2 2x10 cabs @ 299 ea is 598
Total is 997​

3) Fender Rumble head and 1 4x10 cab

Head is 399
4x10 cab is 399
Total is 798​

So it is obvious #3 is the most economical and #2 is the least economical.
As to sound and dispersion, I would say they are all about the same.
Some will argue a pair of the 1x12 cabs @ 299 each would be better, but I don't know as I haven't played not heard that combination. That would put you at the same price point as #2.
Overall, I would think #3 would be a good choice for price and portability.

I would have to say that 2 210 does not equal 1 410 in this series, the 210s have more cabinet area per driver and a different port design, let alone the total being 4 ohms vs 8 ohms, the 210 is an "oversized" 210 where the 410 is standard size as far as 410s go. In v3, I would expect 2 210s to outperform the 410.

My bad, thanks. Forgot about price increase. That makes the 500 head and 4x10 an even better deal.

Introduced at $349, and price increase affected combos only, heads and cabs have always been the same.

 

[RedVee]

I guess that this had been asked before but I can't find it.

Thought - With the R100 v3 if I wanted to use the XLR I would need to use a "dummy plug" in the headphone out in order to mute the speaker.
* Is that right?
* What is a 'dummy plug'? Would a cable only plugged in at the amp work?
* or just run at low volume at the amp and use the gear from the mixer out to boost the volume?

At the moment I'm using a zoom b2.1u into a mixer switching between Ampeg svt & B15 and Bassman emulations as the mood takes me. After a look in the Rumble Talks, I'm thinking maybe the Vintage button, with appropriate use of the overdrive button, may suit.

Am I on the right track?

(I may have the opportunity to pick up a lightly used R100 at an attractive price. I had gone away from the small combo amp thought but I may be swayed if it all is as it seems. Firstly I better confirm it is a v3 rather than an earlier version. )

 

[Linnin]

Thought - With the R100 v3 if I wanted to use the XLR I would need to use a "dummy plug" in the headphone out in order to mute the speaker.
* Is that right?
* What is a 'dummy plug'? Would a cable only plugged in at the amp work?

Yes, that is correct. A 'dummy plug' is any 1/4" male plug that has no cable attached or cut off. Since the headphone jack on the V3's is a mini 1/8", just plug in head phones!

I would not go the low volume route as that isn't going to get you the sound you want.

 

[trisonic]

I’ve played guitar since the late 1960’s - at the age of 64 I’ve decided to try something new: Bass Guitar. I like challenges.....

I did buy a Squier PJ Modified to get going and it is not bad but this year I want to invest more into my fumblings on Bass. Is a Rumble 100 overkill for basement playing? I do like a lot of headroom and am used to playing 100 watt valve guitar amps though I normally use an Allen Accomplice around the house (a handwired point to point updated DR) right now I’m using a guitar amp. One of my neighbors wants me to try the Bass in a small Classical band (not Classic Rock but real Classical music like Bach - long way to with that) but I expect I’ll venture out with it eventually...

I come from the British Blues Boom scene of the sixties in London.

Best, Pete.

Btw I’ve always felt at home in the Carolinas or Texas in spite of, or perhaps because I’m a London boy.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

If you ever want to use any overdrive, the 100 is the one to start on. The 40's overdrive isn't nearly as good.

add:

DOH!
40 is where the good overdrive starts, not 100.

 

[trisonic]

Wow! That was quick! Thanks for your insight.

Best, Pete.