Anyone gigged their SB with a Berg NV212t? I’m going to test one in a couple of days. I love my 2x 15” cabs but I need a good single cab option for most of my gigs. Thanks!
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Fender Studio Bass Club!
- Thread starter gjesse
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Hey guys... just getting into the Studio Bass/Super Twin stuff..was wondering if someone could explain the differences between the two that matter to bass players...thanks in advance..
Iirc, just the eq points of the 5 band active eq. And the distortion control??
...and Super Twin is 4ohm, Studio Bass 8ohm. This is discussed at length in the wiki link above.
Thanks again...anyone with experience with both prefer one over the other..? I feel like I’d prefer the 212 setup of the ST but I know that you can always change speaker setups later..
Bumping for anyone who can provide any info on any differences there might be in the Super Twin Combo from year to year...I got my eyes on an earlier, all original model and have seen a few later models a few hundred dollars cheaper...was wondering why it might be worth the extra cash..
Im process of converting a super twin with reverb and distorion into a studio bass with nothing but the 2 EQs and presence.
Less a conversion, mostly a grand bypassing.
Not changing O.T., so itll always be different in that way.
Less a conversion, mostly a grand bypassing.
Not changing O.T., so itll always be different in that way.
well from poking around on some old forums on the inter webs and talking to a few old schoolers I know, the Super Twin in any form has a pretty bad rep with guitar players...they just think it’s a loud amp with a terrible distortion channel and not much else to it, but time and time again I’d find tidbits from bassists that say when you run a bass through it, it’s magic...bass players seem to be the only ones who tend to put a premium on these (from what I have gathered anyway) and because it has a relatively small cult following at the moment, the prices have not skyrocketed....yet..
There’s so many lighter, more powerful options out there now, but if you just HAVE to have a smaller, less powerful all tube head thats not quite the behemoth that an SVT or DB 750 is, this seems to be the way to go. I haven’t seen as many Studio Bass Combos available as Super Twins, but I’ve seen the pricing really vary on the STs...most are around in the $500-$600 range with changed out speakers...I’ve seen a few all originals in the $700-$1000 range, some with Reverb, some not...the more expensive ones also tend to be the older ones ..the ‘75 STs I’ve seen tended to be more expensive wether all original or not...I was wondering if there was something about the earlier run models that was different schematically or from a production standpoint that made the earlier ones more desired or if you could get one made towards the end of the run (early ‘80s..?) that was the same thing..I know at least by ‘77-‘78 the STs and SBs were using virtually the same head components and are considered equal..
Are you keeping it in the 2x12 combo.. have you been able to trace the year of your combo..?
Guitar Center, btw, has most of the options I’m reviewing...all of them are in stores hundreds of miles away so I’d have to roll the dice on one, Hope to God that the salesman knows what he’s talking about and that it is what it’s supposed to be when it gets shipped to my local GC store...I’m very wary of doing this strictly over the phone...I called about one ST last night and the saleswoman definitely had the ST I was referring to confused with The Fender ‘65 Twin reissue.....the described look, the specs, everything was wrong..I pointed that out three times before I gave up...
Im going to put it in a head case eventually.
I havent touched it in 3 months, and likely wont get back to it for 3 more. Its low on my priority scale RN.
I found the schematic that matches my amp, and that may help indicate the year(s), but ive made no attempt to actually date it.
I like how my jazz sounded thru a Rivera Twin II with guitar speakers at a volume commensurate to the speakers. "The Fender Circuit ' is similar across so many amps, i think any one of the SB and ST models can be made to sound like the clean channels of any other.
In inductor EQ section has some value differences accross the "family", but same basic circuit. I wouldn't sweat the year that bad, if youre good with a "conversion" anyway.
yeah definitely not sweating a conversion, especially if it will save me a few hundred dollars....I’m just at the point where I’m getting ready to gamble with Guitar Center and I’d rather not do that for some reason..
The Studio Bass combo is a fine bass amp by all user accounts. However, it is immensely beneficial to convert the amp into head unit so you can run it through a better and more efficient bass speaker cabinet/enclosure.
The Super Twin 212 combo is a guitar-only setup that would be totally useless for live bass playing. Again, the option is to convert to a head unit.
I gigged my SB into a Berg CN410 last night on a huge gig and it was simply stunning thanks to the cabinet.
thanks for the input...I have the opportunity to buy a SB, I just have to see if the guy will come down on the price....right now he’s asking for $500 more than the priciest ST I’ve seen on the web but he said he is down to negotiate...I’m probably going to start off with building a single 1x15 and going from there..
I bought a Super Twin fully intact, and recouped most of my initial investment by selling the combo chassis intact, minus the amp section... Then, made some amp repairs that were obvious, bought new power tubes, had a tech go thru it, and built my own headcase - it absolutely rocks thru my Bassman 115 Neo...
