I think local bands should play through the house PA only (no amps, no FOH speakers) and give headphones only to those people who paid the cover charge. 
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File sharing doesn't hurt musicians
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If I take a photograph with my digital camera of an original painting for sale at an art gallery, then print out the photo, and then hang it on my wall, is that considered stealing? What if I give a copy of the photo to my friends? Are they stealing, too?
That's basically what file sharing is.
That's basically what file sharing is.
DiabolusInMusic
Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism
Yeah, tape sharing is always the downfall of up and coming bands. Just look Metallica, they barely get by. I think Lars only has a 35 million dollar art collection these days.... poor guy.
The only people who think artists make money on CD sales are completely out of touch with the whole system. Even when people bought CD's most artists were lucky to see $1 from sales, major artists like Metallica commanded $7 per album, which is why they were so heavily invested against Napster. If you want to support an artist buy a ticket for their show when it comes to town and buy up all their T-shirts and other stuff, the live show is where you make bank.
The only people who think artists make money on CD sales are completely out of touch with the whole system. Even when people bought CD's most artists were lucky to see $1 from sales, major artists like Metallica commanded $7 per album, which is why they were so heavily invested against Napster. If you want to support an artist buy a ticket for their show when it comes to town and buy up all their T-shirts and other stuff, the live show is where you make bank.
so because someone makes a certain amount of money off something theyve created stealing becomes ok? whats the cap? the justification of stealing continues.
I think it's been distorted by corporations and lobbyists.. Why should I pay sony for a dead mans music? (Michael Jackson)
I'd appreciate it if you'd edit your post so that it doesn't look as if I made the statement regarding paying for a "dead mans [sic] music".
So all these people that think music should be free, can we assume that they work for free too, or do they just think other people should not get paid for their efforts?
You think you "make bank" off of live shows? A touring band is lucky if it breaks even! Without royalty checks coming in... good luck.
I'd appreciate it if you'd edit your post so that it doesn't look as if I made the statement regarding paying for a "dead mans [sic] music".
Death metal
I bought CDs after hearing one songs. Sometimes I find new bands with youtube but thats pretty much it. I still buy CD. I bought Dream Theater's Train Of Thought last weekend and I never heard "honor thy father" before.
I find it quite ridiculous to think that music should be free. After spending too much time on Talkbass I thought music was all about selling the sh*t people want, to hell being an artist, be a jukebox in front of a crowd.
stuff like that makes me sad and grow my hatred of music
I find it quite ridiculous to think that music should be free. After spending too much time on Talkbass I thought music was all about selling the sh*t people want, to hell being an artist, be a jukebox in front of a crowd.
stuff like that makes me sad and grow my hatred of music
You are correct.
http://bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/21/when-its-illegal-to-photograph-artwork/?_r=0
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Here's an interesting article about high-profile copyright infringement cases.
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Ayuh. This was really poorly written. #71 is "sell your merch online." #45 (45? took them that long to think to add it?) had already been "sell merch." Wow! You mean we can sell ONLINE TOO? Brainmelt!
Also, a lot of them are NOT "how to make money" but "how to do stuff that doesn't make money, in hopes that someday it will lead to making money." Like #58, "Give away your music for free," or #82, "Play some gigs for free" (for "exposure"). Well, sure, those things can be part of an overall strategy for eventually making money, but they themselves are not things you do to make money.
I've gotta say I also got a kick out of #46, "resell your old instruments." Yes, that can translate some of your possessions into immediate cash, but buying a $1200 guitar and reselling it used for $800 is hardly a strategy to help one earn a living.
There was a shorter list like this one, about how musicians make their money nowadays, and the one I got the biggest kick out of was "investments." It talked about Bono and all the millions he makes on the stock market. Well, yah... if you're already a millionaire from all your big 80s hits, I'm sure that's great. Doesn't help me much in the 21st century.
DiabolusInMusic
Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism
If you are "about the music" then what would it matter if you gave it away for free? Money has to be made somewhere to keep the machine running. And quite frankly a $20 quality t-shirt is money well spent. I cannot argue you on certain bands who have $60 t-shirts however, the bands selling shirts for that much are usually to the point they will be set regardless.
I am not going to argue that it is stealing, the fact is most people who download illegal music are the generally the most likely actually go out and buy records. I just do not think it is appropriate for people to get million dollar fines and lengthy prison penalties for sharing 200 of their favourite CDs.
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What amazes me is that it is considered normal to pay like $2K a year in new phones, ipods, computers, broadband subscriptions in and outside the house and what not in order to be able listen to music, and then $0 for the music itself (especially with the argument that "I can't afford to pay for it")
if you are going to steal the ipod from some kid, tap into wireless connection others are paying for without asking, hijack 4G connections, and share files, I would disapprove but at least there'd be some sort of principle at work, and you'd have some balls.
Everything else is just being a cheapskate through the way of least resistance. Which is fine but spare us the huffin'-an-a-puffin' and the selfserving justifications, please?
if you are going to steal the ipod from some kid, tap into wireless connection others are paying for without asking, hijack 4G connections, and share files, I would disapprove but at least there'd be some sort of principle at work, and you'd have some balls.
Everything else is just being a cheapskate through the way of least resistance. Which is fine but spare us the huffin'-an-a-puffin' and the selfserving justifications, please?
