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Finally played some nice gear!

backin82

Jack of a Few Trades
Sep 9, 2009
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Oklahoma City, OK
Most of the active users in this community seem to have ample experience with ultra nice gear, but I'm one of the people who's played for years but never been able to play the nice stuff. I've read about it, and generally know what to look for, but never really heard it myself.

I recently traveled to Boston and found a shop called South Shore Music in Weymouth. The guys there are super nice and very helpful. One of my main goals there was to demo the GK Fusion series and Aguilar Tone Hammer 500 - both of which I am interested in purchasing, but can't find in OKC. They also have Bergantino and Aguilar cabs. One of the guys in the shop (can't remember his name) asked what my needs were, and we setup a Music Man 4H into an Aggy TH500 to a Berg CN212. Literally the best bass tone I have ever produced. It was magical. I played the GK through the same cab, but it just sounded too scooped, too tinny, and not punchy enough. I'm sure some people can EQ it up and get that sound, but the Aggy just had this perfect tone set that seemed to work with very few adjustments.

I was very impressed with the Tone Hammer and the Berg cab. Some of the experts (or "experts") around TB can probably speak to this more articulately, but the Berg seemed to have a similar response to a fEARful 15/6, but with a tighter bottom end and not as harsh of highs. It suited my tone goals PERFECTLY. I'd love to get one someday to replace my 15/6. Of course, some of that could have been the Aggy head.

The purpose of this post is to encourage all the players who haven't taken the "good gear" plunge to go out and play some of it when you get a chance. Secondly, I wanted to give (another) shout out to South Shore Music and a TB user Ryan MacLeod . If you're a bass player in the Boston area, or traveling there and have time, go check them out. They have some nice stuff, including quite a few nice basses, that you won't find at GC. Plus they are good dudes. Go check them out!
 
I haven't played a Berg or a Tonehammer but my 15/6 is nothing short of amazing. What head are you playing through it? IMO the Fearful's need lots of juice. I have a Crest Pro-lite 2.0 i run my preamps through and so far everything has sounded awesome. I'd suggest playing some high powered heads or pre-amp/power amp combos through the 15/6 and see what you think. I really like my RPM fwiw.
 
Dude, did you actually buy anything?
Not yet. I was on vacation and scouting some new stuff since we don't have any of it locally. I couldn't drop $700 right then and there. I'm looking for a head first. Budget is around $750 ish. I have an Acoustic 410, Ampeg 810, Hartke 410, and fEARful 15/6, so I'm definitely set on cabs for a little while at least. I'm running with ONLY a super beat up HA3500 right now, so I need a head pretty quick.
 
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Any guesses on what I was hearing more - the cab or the head?
Most find fearfuls pretty high end. You might need a scad more power to get the best out of yours. The TH pedals show up regularly in the classified section. A 1000w power amp is beer money these days.

Btw, GK is well scooped at the noon positions. Cut bass and treble to 10, boost low mids to 1 and high mids to 2 o'clock. The contour controls are brutally scooped.
 
Most of the active users in this community seem to have ample experience with ultra nice gear, but I'm one of the people who's played for years but never been able to play the nice stuff. I've read about it, and generally know what to look for, but never really heard it myself.

I recently traveled to Boston and found a shop called South Shore Music in Weymouth. The guys there are super nice and very helpful. One of my main goals there was to demo the GK Fusion series and Aguilar Tone Hammer 500 - both of which I am interested in purchasing, but can't find in OKC. They also have Bergantino and Aguilar cabs. One of the guys in the shop (can't remember his name) asked what my needs were, and we setup a Music Man 4H into an Aggy TH500 to a Berg CN212. Literally the best bass tone I have ever produced. It was magical. I played the GK through the same cab, but it just sounded too scooped, too tinny, and not punchy enough. I'm sure some people can EQ it up and get that sound, but the Aggy just had this perfect tone set that seemed to work with very few adjustments.

I was very impressed with the Tone Hammer and the Berg cab. Some of the experts (or "experts") around TB can probably speak to this more articulately, but the Berg seemed to have a similar response to a fEARful 15/6, but with a tighter bottom end and not as harsh of highs. It suited my tone goals PERFECTLY. I'd love to get one someday to replace my 15/6. Of course, some of that could have been the Aggy head.

The purpose of this post is to encourage all the players who haven't taken the "good gear" plunge to go out and play some of it when you get a chance. Secondly, I wanted to give (another) shout out to South Shore Music and a TB user Ryan MacLeod . If you're a bass player in the Boston area, or traveling there and have time, go check them out. They have some nice stuff, including quite a few nice basses, that you won't find at GC. Plus they are good dudes. Go check them out!

What you are experiencing is one of the finest Cabs ever built which is famous for reproducing the bass sound of th Preamp and Bass and not colouring it and a Tonehammer which is one of the best heads in years.

Any high quality amp/preamp running into a Bergantino is going to sound amazing.

I am borrowing a mates setup right now which is a Euphonic Audio Micro into a Berg 212. Also, one of my favorite tones ever. Gives me the exact replication of my playing and the tone of the bass.
 
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I'd guess that you where digging the tone from that TH. I would also guess that a old beat up HA3500 doesn't do a fEARFUL 15/6 justice. Pull the trigger on a used TH. Between the CL and eBay you should be able to get a used TH500 for $500ish and have extra change to complement your new head with an Argo pedal, or a THdi pedal (effectively a two channel TH with the DI pedal in the mix) with the change from the used head. Your 15/6 would probably thank you.
 
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What you are experiencing is one of the finest Cabs ever built which is famous for reproducing the bass sound of th Preamp and Bass and not colouring it and a Tonehammer which is one of the best heads in years.

Any high quality amp/preamp running into a Bergantino is going to sound amazing.

I am borrowing a mates setup right now which is a Euphonic Audio Micro into a Berg 212. Also, one of my favorite tones ever. Gives me the exact replication of my playing and the tone of the bass.
Question: Has anyone else commented before on how "tubey" the TH sounds? It sounded and responded similar to a tube head. I was very surprised about that aspect of it. Sounded like it has some nice built-in compression or something.
 
I suggest you try a TH pre amp pedal feeding a 1000 watt power amp in to your fEARful. You may change your mind about the cab's capabilities.
Good point. I could definitely try that. I like the all-in-one, compact nature of the head by itself though. Do you think the 250w @ 8ohm is an issue for the 15/6? I've read many times that it responds well to more power.

I'm also trying to figure out my needs at the moment. I'm only playing at church and at home these days. One location uses floor monitors, and another does IEMs. So I'd like to keep any setup I have really small and portable. That said, I'd also like to set myself up to do small to medium sized gigs when necessary (I sometimes get called for random fill-in stuff from time to time).
 
Good point. I could definitely try that. I like the all-in-one, compact nature of the head by itself though. Do you think the 250w @ 8ohm is an issue for the 15/6? I've read many times that it responds well to more power.

I'm also trying to figure out my needs at the moment. I'm only playing at church and at home these days. One location uses floor monitors, and another does IEMs. So I'd like to keep any setup I have really small and portable. That said, I'd also like to set myself up to do small to medium sized gigs when necessary (I sometimes get called for random fill-in stuff from time to time).

With 250 watts, you dont even know what the cab is really capable of. It doesnt sound bad, or "less good", but you have a lot of performance potential left on the cab.
 
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If you find yourself driving north-west or just want to make a day trip you are welcome to come up to western Missouri (5hrs for you) and try my SB500H through your cab. Don't currently have a Tonehammer, though. I use it through a 3015lf based cab (not a fearful) and it is plenty loud.
 
Not yet. I was on vacation and scouting some new stuff since we don't have any of it locally. I couldn't drop $700 right then and there. I'm looking for a head first. Budget is around $750 ish. I have an Acoustic 410, Ampeg 810, Hartke 410, and fEARful 15/6, so I'm definitely set on cabs for a little while at least. I'm running with ONLY a super beat up HA3500 right now, so I need a head pretty quick.
At least you had the good sense to spend money on cabs over the head (the Acoustic cab notwithstanding :D ). If you have to skimp on anything, don't skimp on the cab. The best gear into a bad cab always sounds bad, whereas a bad bass and amp into a good cab will usually sound quite good. Of course, not dissing the 3500 by any means. Nice solid head at a nice price.
 
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At least you had the good sense to spend money on cabs over the head (the Acoustic cab notwithstanding :D ). If you have to skimp on anything, don't skimp on the cab. The best gear into a bad cab always sounds bad, whereas a bad bass and amp into a good cab will usually sound quite good. Of course, not dissing the 3500 by any means. Nice solid head at a nice price.
I hear ya. I'm as amateur of a player as it gets, so my collection follows suit. I'm trying to downsize quantity and pick up some quality. I'll likely never sell the Hartke stuff, because it was my first real setup and the nostalgia is too great to part with it. The 810 and the Acoustic 410 can definitely go. I forgot to mention the Fender BXR100 combo amp, but its mostly for super small gigs and sometimes rehearsing at home. I think it sounds terrible, actually.

So, my pursuit is a relatively portable, powerful, and awesome sounding rig. The Berg 212 (4ohm) and the TH500 would be a sweet setup to accomplish that. The question is - should I seek a more powerful amplifier so it can also push my 15/6, or should that be another amp altogether? That's part of the reason I'm still holding out some hope for the MiniMega 1000. It would be everything I needed as long as I liked the tone.