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First Impression: Bergantino NXT

For someone who doesn’t own either cab, is the consensus that the ref cabs do sound better? The weight equivalent to cabs I’m used to, but lighter is a nice bonus.

Dunno if you would find a consensus. Esp. with the new NXT line on the scene.

One thing for sure, the HDN/NXT lines sound appreciably better when being carried up long stair cases. Absolute consensus on that point ;-)
 
Did you compare the NXT to the Ref? Just curious how much Jim is closing that diff down.

For me, *THAT* is the million dollar question. How close do the NXT cabs sound and respond as compared to the ceramic REF versions.

There doesn't seem to be much info out there to answer that question. Since Jim is touting the NXT's to sound and respond more like the REF versions, I would think (hope? expect?) that there would be more info other than the white paper that was provided. You know....."real world" comparisons by bass players.
 
Well damn...through my laptop I actually give a slight nudge to the HDN
I like the HDN.....alot

Thank you so much for taking the time to do this awesome comparo video

From that video, I prefer the high end on the HDN's. I suspect they will cut through a band mix more. I've had HG cabs and those tweeters are too smooth for me. I do like the NXT and can't wait to try it and compare to the HDN in real life. The mids grunt in a different way between these cabs. I'm still really happy with my HDN210 x 2 stack and don't feel the need to switch it up just yet...
 
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From that video, I prefer the high end on the HDN's. I suspect they will cut through a band mix more. I've had HG cabs and those tweeters are too smooth for me. I do like the NXT and can't wait to try it and compare to the HDN in real life. The mids grunt in a different way between these cabs. I'm still really happy with my HDN210 x 2 stack and don't feel the need to switch it up just yet...
Well...Why would you ever feel the need to switch?.....If you are happy....Be happy....:bassist:


I apologize.....Who am I kidding?......If we read Talkbass, we Have Gas....Period.
 
For me, *THAT* is the million dollar question. How close do the NXT cabs sound and respond as compared to the ceramic REF versions.

There doesn't seem to be much info out there to answer that question. Since Jim is touting the NXT's to sound and respond more like the REF versions, I would think (hope? expect?) that there would be more info other than the white paper that was provided. You know....."real world" comparisons by bass players.
I'm torn between trying the NXT and Ref cabs. Maybe to go with a Forte HP. I do like the weight savings, but for the money I would want the best sound. Do the NXT get louder before breakup? (higher Xmax, maybe?). I think the nearest stocking dealer to me is Austin, and I don't think I'll be able to get there any time soon. I may cross post this in the Berg forum.
 
I posted this to the "show your Berg" thread too, but here's a quick comparison. Same settings in all videos.

I can see the argument for the HDN's in a live band mix, but the NXT's sound more balanced to me (through decent earbuds).
If I want a mix-friendly tone, I'd rather get there with EQ than to have that ever-present. Both views are valid, but I'd rather just start from balanced.
The real truth is in the ear of the bassist, so just expressing my personal preference.
I also thought that between the 210 & 112 that the 112 sounded more balanced as well.
I'd love to a/b the NXT322 & the NXT212 live.
I was leaning 322 based on various comments, but now???
 
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I can see the argument for the HDN's in a live band mix, but the NXT's sound more balanced to me (through decent earbuds).
If I want a mix-friendly tone, I'd rather get there with EQ than to have that ever-present. Both views are valid, but I'd rather just start from balanced.
The real truth is in the ear of the bassist, so just expressing my personal preference.
I also thought that between the 210 & 112 that the 112 sounded more balanced as well.
I'd love to a/b the NXT322 & the NXT212 live.
I was leaning 322 based on various comments, but now???
Another thing I considered after posting the comment above - you have to take into account - proximity to boundaries when comparing two cabs.
So that can definitely impact the comparison between the 210 & the 112 as to which sounds more balanced.
 
I'm not a huge proponent of the 210 as standalone for my needs, but love the ENXT 112 alone. That said, I love the 322 combination. I've done the ENXT 112 + HDN 112 combination too and it sounded great as well....just not as full as the NXT 322. I could see myself getting a NXT 112 down the road.
 
Another thing I considered after posting the comment above - you have to take into account - proximity to boundaries when comparing two cabs.
So that can definitely impact the comparison between the 210 & the 112 as to which sounds more balanced.

not to mention, there is a vast difference in the sound of a cab on the floor versus on top of another cab…
 
Ordinarily I not of the camp that says- Neo speakers don't sound good. I think they do, except the REF, despite it's hefty weight, sounds better to me.

I think Jim has been refining his ceramic speakers and cabinets for a long time and has settled on the REF series...for now. :)

I am probably going to be picking up a REF 112 soon. I was thinking about a cheaper alternative. Then I realized that you only love once, so...
 
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@CaptainWally I just bought a Forte HP (never had combo amp before) WITHOUT TRYING IT - CORONA.. YAH KNOW? I was looking at the HDN and the NXT and truly don't understand the overall difference

So you would be leaning towards the NXT 210 standalone vs. HDN 210 standalone if you had to choose today and start fresh?
 
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NXT 210. Bit more low end, and the tweeter is better.

would love to try the NXT. However, I think saying the tweeter is “better” is a subjective issue. I had two different HG cabs with that tweeter and I did not like it as much as the tweeter on the HDN series. Too warm/not cutting enough in a band mix with both upright and electric bass.

I absolutely love my HDN210’s. that being said, would love to try the new NXT210 and compare... The videos I heard, they each have a slightly different flavor... Which one will never know until they try it themselves.
 
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