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Frankly, I'm pretty sick of all the news coverage of Whitney's "tragic death" or however they are presenting it.

Of course, my opinion is very much colored by Veronica's death 40 days ago. The love of my life suddenly dies, my whole world is devastated, and I am all alone in my grief. Yet a washed-up singer's demise is dominating the news.
 
#22
MatticusMania said:
I dont know Doctor... I have a hard time accepting a crack addict as "a great ambassador for the United States"... maybe in her pre-crack days.
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Guess you don't believe that Elvis Presley, Miles Davis, Johnny Cash, Ray Charles, Billie Holiday, and countless other artists with substance abuse problems have helped to a develop a very popular and much imitated positive image of American popular culture either?
 
#23
Real patriots only live in Tennessee?
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I have absolutely no idea where you came to the conclusion I was insinuating that. Way out of left field with that one.

As far as musicians being "ambassadors". Ha. Not really. Good case in point: France. They love American music, but despise America. Good ambassadors, our musicians *rolls eyes*
 
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nashvillebill said:
Frankly, I'm pretty sick of all the news coverage of Whitney's "tragic death" or however they are presenting it.

Of course, my opinion is very much colored by Veronica's death 40 days ago. The love of my life suddenly dies, my whole world is devastated, and I am all alone in my grief. Yet a washed-up singer's demise is dominating the news.
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For what it's worth, I'm sorry for your great loss.
 
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Jinro said:
I have absolutely no idea where you came to the conclusion I was insinuating that. Way out of left field with that one.

As far as musicians being "ambassadors". Ha. Not really. Good case in point: France. They love American music, but despise America. Good ambassadors, our musicians *rolls eyes*
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They hated America so much that they gave us the crucial financial and naval aid we needed to defeat Britain, and twenty years later, they sold us what is now 1/3 of our territory for about $1 an acre. They hated us so much they gave us the Statue of Liberty too.:rolleyes:
 
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nashvillebill said:
Frankly, I'm pretty sick of all the news coverage of Whitney's "tragic death" or however they are presenting it.

Of course, my opinion is very much colored by Veronica's death 40 days ago. The love of my life suddenly dies, my whole world is devastated, and I am all alone in my grief. Yet a washed-up singer's demise is dominating the news.
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Im sorry to hear that, man.

Dr. Cheese said:
Guess you don't believe that Elvis Presley, Miles Davis, Johnny Cash, Ray Charles, Billie Holiday, and countless other artists with substance abuse problems have helped to a develop a very popular and much imitated positive image of American popular culture either?
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C'mon Cheese, drugged up music stars, as talented as they have been, have certainly not developed a positive image of American culture. Imitated, yes but positive, absolutely not.
 
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They hated America so much that they gave us the crucial financial and naval aid we needed to defeat Britain, and twenty years later, they sold us what is now 1/3 of our territory for about $1 an acre. They hated us so much they gave us the Statue of Liberty too.
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Right, because Elvis Presley, Miles Davis, Johnny Cash, Ray Charles, and Billie Holiday performed in France before the War for Independence, before the Louisiana Purchase, and before they gave us the Statue of Liberty. You might want to retake History class.
 
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Dr. Cheese said:
They hated America so much that they gave us the crucial financial and naval aid we needed to defeat Britain, and twenty years later, they sold us what is now 1/3 of our territory for about $1 an acre. They hated us so much they gave us the Statue of Liberty too.:rolleyes:
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Youre the history guy, right? I was unware that the Revolutionary War, Lousiana Purchase, and us receiving the Statue of Liberty all happened in the 20th century.
 
#30
The bottom line is that you guys have no obligation to respect what Whitney Houston did for the popular culture, and you certainly don't need to feel that she deserves state respect. Frankly, I would not have asked for it, but if Gov. Christie is willing to publicly recognize her, it's fine with me.


I think she was a heck of a lot more than a "crack head." I doubt if any of us would want to be judged solely by our biggest failure or weakness, especially if that weakness was not something that directly hurt other people like a DUI or an act of violence towards someone else.
 
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Jinro said:
There's a difference between a weakness and a lack of integrity.
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You and I, eye to eye right now.

I was going to state that there is a difference between judging a person by their biggest failure, and judging someone who continually abused drugs in the public eye.

There are a lot of talented people addicted to drugs who I think are great artists and worthy of respect on that level, Whitney Houston included, but I dont think they quite deserve to be honored in a realm outside of their craft.
 
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Jinro said:
There's a difference between a weakness and a lack of integrity.
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Since I'm pretty sure you don't know her, you have no way knowing what she lacked as a person. All you have is your opinion, for whatever reason you are judgemental of her, while you are probably willing to give others a pass.

We all have those things that set us off, and apparently her drug use is something you can't abide. So be it.
 
#37
I always find it interesting how the general public reacts to someone's passing. In many ways they reinvent the person.

While Whitney Houston was a soul/pop singer with a number of hits, strong selling albums and movies to her name, and recognized as having a good voice, it isn't until she died that all of a sudden she's 'risen' to having the world's best voice, expanded soul singing to new levels of something or other...etc. I get that she meant more to some than others, but there's a whole lot of bandwagoners every time someone dies.

One of the people in our office has been using it for drama all week. They came in Monday talking about how much they were the hugest fan (funny, given they'd never mentioned it in years), and how they were devastated by it...and also by the fact that the CD store had run out of her CD's, because he needed to buy them. Huh? Hugest fan ever, right? When I'm a fan of someone, I tend to have actually purchased an album or 50 by that artist.
 
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BurningSkies said:
I always find it interesting how the general public reacts to someone's passing. In many ways they reinvent the person.

While Whitney Houston was a soul/pop singer with a number of hits, strong selling albums and movies to her name, and recognized as having a good voice, it isn't until she died that all of a sudden she's 'risen' to having the world's best voice, expanded soul singing to new levels of something or other...etc. I get that she meant more to some than others, but there's a whole lot of bandwagoners every time someone dies.

One of the people in our office has been using it for drama all week. They came in Monday talking about how much they were the hugest fan (funny, given they'd never mentioned it in years), and how they were devastated by it...and also by the fact that the CD store had run out of her CD's, because he needed to buy them. Huh? Hugest fan ever, right? When I'm a fan of someone, I tend to have actually purchased an album or 50 by that artist.
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:smug: I agree with pretty with you, but I do think that in the world of r&b, she was truly esteemed as a great singer.
 
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