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Fodera Club Part VI

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#723
I got that...it is something that we have spent literally hundreds of hours trying to figure out how to get the tone AND a perfect finish with no scratches. I just wanted to explain why they remain...bottom line, as much as we try to make the basses look nice, tone always trumps all.

Enjoy Chris, and again, no hard feelings...it's a completely fair criticism!

Angus said:
Oh I love the finish- I was just trying to be fair. :) I don't care one bit about the visible scratches...I'm going to be put them in the instrument myself anyway!
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#724
Just Thumpin' said:
tone always trumps all.
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On the subject of Tone... :-) how's that for a lead in.. On the new Matt Garrison. First off the bass resonates beautifully with out being plugged in.. The combination of the woods and the tone chambers really makes it sing.
I said when I got a chance to play with the pre-amp settings, I would post something. Initial set up from Fodera was Kill Switch active, Bass low, Mid set in mid, highs in high position tone control set to Jazz. Sounded great..
Last night i changed the multi function switch to control mids.. and chose low mid and high mid for my options.. I also changed the tone to P-bass..
i got as far as playing the bass passive, pickups in single coil with the p-bass tone rolled back a little. I say 'i got as far as' because once I head the way that sounded I could not put it down.. Played for 2 hours straight. I had nothing but P-basses until I got my Fodera in March '84 and have missed the sound.. This was incredible..
Today I will spend some time experimenting with the mid options and report back..
Hat's off to the Pontif... This is on fantastic pre-amp and control set up..

ps I have special narro Duncan Dual Coils..
 
#725
basswalker2004 said:
On the subject of Tone... :-) how's that for a lead in.. On the new Matt Garrison. First off the bass resonates beautifully with out being plugged in.. The combination of the woods and the tone chambers really makes it sing.
I said when I got a chance to play with the pre-amp settings, I would post something. Initial set up from Fodera was Kill Switch active, Bass low, Mid set in mid, highs in high position tone control set to Jazz. Sounded great..
Last night i changed the multi function switch to control mids.. and chose low mid and high mid for my options.. I also changed the tone to P-bass..
i got as far as playing the bass passive, pickups in single coil with the p-bass tone rolled back a little. I say 'i got as far as' because once I head the way that sounded I could not put it down.. Played for 2 hours straight. I had nothing but P-basses until I got my Fodera in March '84 and have missed the sound.. This was incredible..
Today I will spend some time experimenting with the mid options and report back..
Hat's off to the Pontif... This is on fantastic pre-amp and control set up..

ps I have special narro Duncan Dual Coils..
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Wow.. A convincing P tone? That would be great to hear from a Fodera. As great as Fodera basses are, I've never heard one that I would consider having a "vintage" tone.

I, too, play only P basses and that is tone I just love. It sits in the mix and has a thump factor that jazzes don't, IMO.
 
#726
Bernie Connors said:
Wow.. A convincing P tone? That would be great to hear from a Fodera. As great as Fodera basses are, I've never heard one that I would consider having a "vintage" tone.

I, too, play only P basses and that is tone I just love. It sits in the mix and has a thump factor that jazzes don't, IMO.
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i agree man.. I respect the Jazz sound but it was just never mine.. All the players I really dug were using P's. I don't have many regretts in my life but, selling my beloved '64 p-bass on a whim is one of them.. Got a whopping $300 for it.. sigh...
 
#727
Bernie Connors said:
Wow.. A convincing P tone? That would be great to hear from a Fodera. As great as Fodera basses are, I've never heard one that I would consider having a "vintage" tone.

I, too, play only P basses and that is tone I just love. It sits in the mix and has a thump factor that jazzes don't, IMO.
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Bernie, Very interesting ..like you I am a huge fan of P basses and the tones they produce. For the past few years I have played only a P bass with 15's and a tube head.

I have a VW Monarch and when I dial in just the P Pickups and pull back the mids and treble and bump up the bass
"just a bit" - you get a great modern P tone that works really well.
 
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basswalker2004 said:
i agree man.. I respect the Jazz sound but it was just never mine.. All the players I really dug were using P's. I don't have many regretts in my life but, selling my beloved '64 p-bass on a whim is one of them.. Got a whopping $300 for it.. sigh...
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Ouch on the '64! :crying:

I'm with ya, dude. A tone I just love is from Pino Palladino when he rolls the tone off of his P and that coupled with his incredible technique? Man.. It's just perfect.

57pbass said:
Bernie, Very interesting ..like you I am a huge fan of P basses and the tones they produce. For the past few years I have played only a P bass with 15's and a tube head.

I have a VW Monarch and when I dial in just the P Pickups and pull back the mids and treble and bump up the bass
"just a bit" - you get a great modern P tone that works really well.
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Interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing what kinda tones you get from your upcoming Fodera with the dual coils. Would like to hear what you get from soloing the dual coil in the neck position.
 
#731
Bernie Connors said:
Interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing what kinda tones you get from your upcoming Fodera with the dual coils. Would like to hear what you get from soloing the dual coil in the neck position.
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I am also looking forward to hearing this bass plugged in.....

I do expect a warm huge bottom end from this bass which is why I went with a Rosewood board instead of Ebony and the guys at Fodera suggested the pick up spacing to be 60's style instead of 70's....

I have a dificult time articulating what my ears like to hear into words....but I will do my best.
 
#734
There is a jumper setting internally for the passive tone control which allows for a J-bass frequency or a P-bass frequency. The PU coils are still what they are, but when you roll off the tone you get rid of frequencies farther down into the mid-range which leaves it sounding more round. I find that when you wire the pups series/split as opposed to parallel and split (the standard way they wire them) you get an even better result. Makes the sound much thicker and almost "sloppier" in a good way. Still articulate, but with a looser bottom end (yeah...I know what that sounds like).
 
#735
DELACIUS said:
Basswalker.... i know that twin brother will sound the same. I'll pick it up 17th this month..... can' t wait.
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awesome man... Of course it is not exactly P-bass but it sure is a sound I can't get out of my old Fodera... Lovin it..
Looking forward to trying the 'new' active settings a bit later. I wrote it down wrong before... I have the 'low mid' and 'mid mid' assigned to the multi function switch this time around.
looking forward to you getting your twin...
cheers
 
#736
steubig said:
can you explain how this works? i have the old haz labs preamps (but i've taken them all out).

is it the electronics or do the p/ups have p-style coils in them?
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It's new to me but I downloaded the instructions off of the Fodera site... There are little jumper switches at various points in Mikes preamp that allow you to assign defferent ranges to the tone, treble, mid and bass knobs (I guess that is the right term) and functions (in the case of the MFS) switch. My pickups have no P-style coils they are just duncan dual coils...
The passive tone jumpers offer 2 vintage settings.. Jazz at .022uF and .047uF for precision. you can combine them too.
I found that putting the bass in Passive mode, my dual coils in 'single coil mode' and having the tone control jumpered to the p-bass vintage setting I get a nice vintage sound that to me is reminds me a lot of my old P-bass.
Mike, please feel free to correct if I have any of this wrong..
thanks
 
#737
thepontif said:
There is a jumper setting internally for the passive tone control which allows for a J-bass frequency or a P-bass frequency. The PU coils are still what they are, but when you roll off the tone you get rid of frequencies farther down into the mid-range which leaves it sounding more round. I find that when you wire the pups series/split as opposed to parallel and split (the standard way they wire them) you get an even better result. Makes the sound much thicker and almost "sloppier" in a good way. Still articulate, but with a looser bottom end (yeah...I know what that sounds like).
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:hyper:
Thanx for my "The Last Chestnut" bass for Fodera team!!!
I got it in the morning today! I did not put down yet!
Dreambass...!!!

:bassist:
Mike, this new preamp like the heaven :) You know 8-)
My favorite the selectable Bass and Mid...
Very high quality, no distortion, incredible headroom...
Congrats and thanx!!!
 
#738
tomika said:
:hyper:
Thanx for my "The Last Chestnut" bass for Fodera team!!!
I got it in the morning today! I did not put down yet!
Dreambass...!!!

:bassist:
Mike, this new preamp like the heaven :) You know 8-)
My favorite the selectable Bass and Mid...
Very high quality, no distortion, incredible headroom...
Congrats and thanx!!!
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awesome.. congrats on the bass
 
#739
mike, thanks for the information.

i was wondering because my pickups (nordstrand custom stuff) are all p-bass coils next to j-bass coils (2 coils per style to get some hum canceling; next to each other in same assembly) and the different coils look very different. (p = short/fat; j = tall skinny). i had assumed that the fodera p/ups were NOT doing that sort of thing.
 
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thepontif said:
There is a jumper setting internally for the passive tone control which allows for a J-bass frequency or a P-bass frequency. The PU coils are still what they are, but when you roll off the tone you get rid of frequencies farther down into the mid-range which leaves it sounding more round. I find that when you wire the pups series/split as opposed to parallel and split (the standard way they wire them) you get an even better result. Makes the sound much thicker and almost "sloppier" in a good way. Still articulate, but with a looser bottom end (yeah...I know what that sounds like).
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Mike,

How are the pickups in your new bass wired? Congrats again on what seems to be a stellar instrument!

Garey
 
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