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#183
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Hey VintageBT6 Lover,

Do the pickups on that bass have the coil tap which can select either outer or inner coils or humbuckers, or is it wired for series and parallel and one single coil coil setting?

The inner / outer coil switching is why if I ordered a Fodera today I would choose Barts over the aeros or Duncans. It's not quite the same as having a 60s and a 70s jazz bass in one package but it is along those lines, with the 60 cycle hum and all if you solo them. Like two basses in one. Do Fodera still offer Barts by the way?
 
#184
I am using Bart Classics in my Monarch (see goofy pic and back of my son's head):

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I really like the Bart Classics in general and have been using them in the last three or four of my basses (Fodera and non-Fodera). My favorites are the X-style humcancelling J's and the dual coils.

The bass originally had the Duncans which sounded great but I find the Barts punchier, faster and clearer. They are a little more modern sounding which I like. I think Foderas sound best with an even pickup blend, but the Duncans got kind of blurry unless you favored the bridge heavily. With the Barts you can get plenty of punch and clarity running an even blend.

Anyway, the Duncans are great pickups but I put the Barts in and have not really looked back.

The Bart Classics come in a wide variety of shapes so there is likely one that will fit most any bass.

W
 
#185
Belka said:
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Hey VintageBT6 Lover,

Do the pickups on that bass have the coil tap which can select either outer or inner coils or humbuckers, or is it wired for series and parallel and one single coil coil setting?

The inner / outer coil switching is why if I ordered a Fodera today I would choose Barts over the aeros or Duncans. It's not quite the same as having a 60s and a 70s jazz bass in one package but it is along those lines, with the 60 cycle hum and all if you solo them. Like two basses in one. Do Fodera still offer Barts by the way?
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Since there's only one switch for the coil tap, it's only capable of humbucking/single via series/parallel. I believe that's how they're wired at the shop.

*from the website: "Coil Tap: If the instrument has dual coil humbucking pickups in it, there is a third switch which acts as a coil tap. Down is humbucking, up is single coil.

I believe to achieve outer/inner coil tapping, you'd have to add another DPDT switch. Or you could just rewire the existing switch to do this but you'd lose your humbucking mode. Another way I suppose could work would be to use a Triple Pole switch where you'd have outer single/inner single/humbucking but those tiny little switches would make it hard to reliably control them in a live situation, I would think, hence the need for another switch.

As it is right now, I'm not sure which coil (inner or outer) is used when in single coil mode but I can find out fairly easily. I'll plug it in soon and test it. I think most coil taps are wired standard as using the outer coils but I could be wrong.
 
#186
Killer bass, Wilbyman! Even though it's a Monarch, it's really making me miss my old Emperor.
I should've never sold it!!
I'm with you on the Barts too. There's something about them that just sound right to me.

Your kid's cute, too! Almost looks like he's ready to critique your right hand technique! haha
 
#188
Chris2112 said:
Smart move putting Barts in a Fodera, that must sound absolutely amazing! Not to mention that the bass itself is gorgeous!
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VintageBT6Lover said:
Killer bass, Wilbyman! Even though it's a Monarch, it's really making me miss my old Emperor.
I should've never sold it!!
I'm with you on the Barts too. There's something about them that just sound right to me.

Your kid's cute, too! Almost looks like he's ready to critique your right hand technique! haha
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LOL, thanks guys...sometimes my wife puts him up in front to absorb the low freqs. That Monarch arrived the day after he was born and was completed just a few days before (winter NAMM last year).

Brad, I have never seen an Edwards 4 but it is my favorite body style they make. Beautiful!

W
 
#189
VintageBT6Lover said:
Here's my 2002 Edward 6 string

Edward1-copy.jpg
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Best Fodera ever. I love it.
 
#190
Wilbyman said:
I am using Bart Classics in my Monarch (see goofy pic and back of my son's head):

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I really like the Bart Classics in general and have been using them in the last three or four of my basses (Fodera and non-Fodera). My favorites are the X-style humcancelling J's and the dual coils.

The bass originally had the Duncans which sounded great but I find the Barts punchier, faster and clearer. They are a little more modern sounding which I like. I think Foderas sound best with an even pickup blend, but the Duncans got kind of blurry unless you favored the bridge heavily. With the Barts you can get plenty of punch and clarity running an even blend.

Anyway, the Duncans are great pickups but I put the Barts in and have not really looked back.

The Bart Classics come in a wide variety of shapes so there is likely one that will fit most any bass.

W
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First of all that Monarch looks beautiful, congrats!
I have original Barts in my 91 Emperor 4 P/J
and I would not think about changing them out, they sound too good! in fact best tone I have ever had.... see here.
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4397834&postcount=137
 
#191
Ibelieve to achieve outer/inner coil tapping, you'd have to add another DPDT switch. Or you could just rewire the existing switch to do this but you'd lose your humbucking mode. Another way I suppose could work would be to use a Triple Pole switch where you'd have outer single/inner single/humbucking but those tiny little switches would make it hard to reliably control them in a live situation, I would think, hence the need for another switch.

On mine I have two DPDT switches. The left one selects outer coils (up) or inner coils (down), and the second selects single coil (up) or humbucking (down). It's easy to use on the fly. I have seen one Emporer with Barts which had a triple pole switch which I think had humbucking in the middle.

Mine also has a Bart NTMB preamp running at 18 volts, which I prefer to Fodera's other preamps; in my experience it's slightly quieter than the Pope and has the mid frequency selector which is great. The one disadvantage is the lack of passive mode, but overall I think that Bart preamps are a great match for the pickups.

I will try to get some pictures up as I know the 'no picture no bass' rule, but mine is an Emporer six with a modified lower horn, walnut body and purpleheart top
 
#192
VintageBT6Lover said:
Here's my 2002 Edward 6 string

Edward1-copy.jpg


Brad_JH.jpg


original pic from the front:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/fodera6/Edward1s.jpg

front & back:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f287/fodera6/F_Edward_dual.jpg

More about the Fodera Edward model:
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Specs:
2002 Edward Model (Extended B-string headstock)
6 Strings, 34" Scale, 24 Small Frets
18V 3-Band Pope Preamp w/Single Coil Tap
Two Bartolini Dual Coils w/Fodera mounts
2-inch-thick Honduras Mahogany Body Wings
3-Piece Maple Neck
Old-Growth Ebony Fingerboard & Headstock Overlay
Solid Gloss Black Finish
12 lbs.
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That's just beautiful, Brad!
 
#194
Belka said:
On mine I have two DPDT switches. The left one selects outer coils (up) or inner coils (down), and the second selects single coil (up) or humbucking (down). It's easy to use on the fly. I have seen one Emporer with Barts which had a triple pole switch which I think had humbucking in the middle.

Mine also has a Bart NTMB preamp running at 18 volts, which I prefer to Fodera's other preamps; in my experience it's slightly quieter than the Pope and has the mid frequency selector which is great. The one disadvantage is the lack of passive mode, but overall I think that Bart preamps are a great match for the pickups.

I will try to get some pictures up as I know the 'no picture no bass' rule, but mine is an Emporer six with a modified lower horn, walnut body and purpleheart top
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Yeah that's the way I thought would be easiest. Where do you put the fourth switch? Do all the switches form a trapezoid shape?

Yeah, I used to have both 9- and 18-volt NTMB with Bart soapbars in an Elrick 6 and a Roscoe 7, respectively. I did like the Bart preamp with those instruments but sometimes I found it a bit too polite and refined, if that can be a bad thing. Even with tons of mid-shaping options I could never really get the mid-sound I wanted. I also had trouble with the bass getting puffy or cloudy, if you know what I mean. Perhaps it had more to do with the fact that they were extended-range instruments but I never felt like I could dig in and just play bass with them like I could with more traditional instruments. They seemed better-suited as soloing-type instruments.

However, the Pope pre and the Bart soapbars in my Fodera seem to be a great match for the instrument. It's neither too polite nor too aggressive and it can hop timbres and styles very easily. I, too, favor the center position for the pickups and with it set there, I can dig in and get some of that round Motown flavor as well as a penetrating soli or solo tone with finger placement alone. Still, I would be really interested to hear a Bart preamp in this thing! I think you're right about it being slightly quieter than the Pope.

Wow, your Emperor sounds sweeeeeeeet!! :hyper:
Can't wait to see it! I love Purpleheart!
[snagglepuss]And a modified lower horn even![/snagglepuss] :D
 
#198
I called up fodera asking when my guitar will be done, from what I gather less than two months.

I am really not in a hurry or anything, just calling about the time they said to call from last time. I doubt they really meant anything, but they just told me to be patient. I am definitely not trying to seem umpatient, as I really don't feel that way, so here's to hoping I am not pestering!

I dig the guitar a bunch (or the idea of it, I want a fodera one way or another), but I am wondering the best route to convert that into a non-NYC or bolt-on bass with more than 4 strings....
 
#199
Leo, again, the guitars are so rare that I have no concept of the value of the thing. I have seen some kind of shred-riffic looking Fodera guitars which I doubt have alot of value, but yours is so sweet looking that I have to think it could fetch a very good price. I would check with Joel C. and see what he and Beasley think.
 
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