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Frampton: "It's Rock and Roll, So tough..."

tkonbass

tkonbass

I'm just one of the out-of-focus guys.
Mar 11, 2012
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Peter Frampton got fed up with someone refusing to stop videoing him with a smartphone at a show, snatched the phone from the "fan" and tossed it.

I occasionally attend concerts and have to agree with the assertion that having so many people with the phones up in the air durng the concert is annoying and distracting. It would be one thing if it was just to take a snapshot but it seems a lot of people are determined to shoot the entire performance.

I for one applaud Frampton's statement, what say you?

 
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People like Frampton have made tens of millions of dollars off of fans who buy albums and pay a lot of money to attend concerts. I see nothing wrong with people taking pictures or recording on their phones. It happens all the time and to single out one individual who happened to pay good money for tickets close to the stage was wrong. I'm sure there were thousands or other people in attendance who were doing the same thing. The only difference is that Frampton either couldn't see them or chose to ignore them.
 
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jthisdell said:
The whole obsession with social media and smart phones bothers me in that so many people spend all their time watching what others are doing or documenting what others are doing instead of DOING ANYTHING THEMSELVES!!!
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Digital witnesses, what's the point of even sleeping?
If I can't show it, if you can't see me
What's the point of doing anything?
What's the point of even sleeping?
So I stopped sleeping, yeah I stopped sleeping
Won't somebody sell me back to me?
-- St. Vincent, "Digital Witness"

Daily, I thank the powers that be that I'm 51 and not 41, 31, 21, or 11.

Edit: I see the validity of Kmonk's point, as long as people aren't getting in the way of others or otherwise being nuisances. It makes me wonder if the concertgoer in question wasn't on his/her best behavior, and that was more likely what set the Framp off.
 
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dalkowski said:
It makes me wonder if the concertgoer in question wasn't on his/her best behavior, and that was more likely what set the Framp off.
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Well if you watch the vid, he apparently asked the guy to put his phone down and the guy blew him off.

Not that that justifies grabbing somebody's stuff and tossing it. I guess if Frampton plays a song I don't like after I ask him not to, than I can jump on stage and stomp on his his crappy talk box, right?

If there was a rule in place that videotaping wasn't allowed, than security should've ushered the offender out the door and be done with it. Otherwise, you stay on the &&^%^$ stage and keep your %$^& hands to your ^%$# self lest you get punched upside the face. Someone like Peter Frampton should know better, you're a guitard, not a security goon.

I'm not siding with annoying smart phone users, mind you, but Frampton did something stupid, too. It would've been fun to videotape the incident!
 
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Spectrum said:
Well if you watch the vid, he apparently asked the guy to put his phone down and the guy blew him off.
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True confession: I didn't watch the video—I have very poor attention span for them. My thoughts were mainly in regard to our over-documented culture.

It does sound like Framp needs a chill pill, getting his knickers in a twist over someone taking shite cell-phone video that no one will watch. On balance, pretty unprofessional.

The Replacements had the right idea. When they caught a fan secretly taping a gig, they confiscated his rig and released the recording.
 
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Went to see George Carlin at a theater in the round venue in the mid 80s. Leon Redbone was opening for him. Just Leon, a chair, and his guitar. Well, of course, the hat and sun glasses. This place had more no camera, no photo signs all over the place, it was in the program and they announced it verbally before the show started. Leon did his first song then reached under his chair and pulled out one of those cheap cameras you could buy back then. He said, "Smile, don't move." and took a picture of the audience. The don't move part was funny because the stage was rotating.
 
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Yeah im really not a big fan of endless videoing of a gig, a cheeky photo here and there fine, but really the image is going to be rubbish even if you're quite close to the front, the sound on a video would be poor and its jsut a waste of time and gets in everyones way around you.

I went to a gig not that long ago (i forget who) but there were people holding up ipads, i mean come on an ipad? and just watching the performance through that. The most annoying part is that these phones, especially ipads get in the way of everyone elses view who has paid to be there!
 
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My question is, when has it ever been legal to record a concert, video OR audio?

Sure, with the advent of the smartphone, most look the other way. But the actual ticket license almost always expressly forbids recording in any manner.

Still kind of a d*ck move, but in actuality, no one has the right to record in the first place.

Just sayin'
 
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After going to (when it was) Verizon Wireless Theater in Houston to see Trivium and Dream Theater, I have to say I find the whole "No cellphone recordings" stuff rather stupid. Even if you had a high-quality camcorder with you, the audio is going to be atrocious since it was mixed to be heard by hundreds, if not thousands, of people in a large area...you will easily overload the mic and it will sound terrible. You might have ok video footage, but chances are you'll have people in front of you and can't keep your hand up for that long anyways.

Now if the person in question is using a smartphone, we're talking a FAR inferior mic and recording capabilities anyways. Lights, focus, audio, and steadiness are all going to suck out loud on a cell phone. This would be the equivalent of someone bringing a Fisher-Price tape recorder to a concert back in the 90's and someone breaking it because they are trying to record the concert. In my opinion, it's just stupid and overreacting. I did see a video online where a guy had a laser pointer at a KISS concert and was flashing it in the guys eyes while they were trying to play. That's ridiculous and disrespectful for someone to do that, you're messing with the band and ruining the performance for the other people there. Come on though, a cell phone? Totally overblown IMO.
 

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