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Fretless disease

So I played a fretless for the first time today. Really played it. It was a really nice Moser. Now I have to have a fretless. I didn't buy it as it is a brand new bass in the shop, but had scratches and dents in the wood and for that money, it better be perfect. They weren't willing to come down, so I left. No worries, but it now infected me.

It had no fret lines and wasn't too bad to get used to. Kiesel will be getting a call on Tuesday for a PB4 fretless. Then the wait.

Is this how it happened for other fretless players? You tried it and it was over?
Started on short scale pos fretted, then got a nice Washburn. a year later grab a 3/4 upright and going strong. Have made 4 basses. Two 4's and 2 sixes, all fretless.
 
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I made the decision to play one Bass. It is a fretless, due to maximum sonic flexibility.

I took my Ash '96 USA Schecter California Custom Shop Traditional Jazz Bass, sold the neck, purchased a Status Graphite lined fretless P 1.65" nut width neck, rewired to V-B - T/B Aguilar OBP-1, with the MONSTERTONE J tapped pickups each on its own mini switch. I use TI nickle roundwounds 107-043 with a BAII and Hipshot Ultralight tuners.

This is a clear, powerful and flexible Bass, that works for creating a style/tone, as slapping has never played into the music to a great extent, that I have been involved with.
 
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I wanted fretless when I first hear Sean Malone from cynic and Steve di georgio from like every metal band ever... learnt to use it to compose a few pieces and play in a thrash band... but it never fit my new band in which I slap and as it sat unused for so many years I sold it recently... kinda sad but would prefer it being used properly! Oh yeah it was an Ibanez gwb35... nice bass!
 
I love the way that fretless plays but I always found myself fighting against its natural sound when I owned one for a year or so. I'd like to have one again at some point just for my own enjoyment at home, but what I go for sound-wise just doesn't seem to be what the fretless is all about.
 
I got a Squier VM Fretless Jazz for Christmas and strung it up with TI Jazz Flats. It’s all I’ve been playing at home; haven’t gigged it yet, and haven’t had an actual gig for about 6 months. When I play my fretted basses I find myself disliking the frets, like they’re getting in my way. We’ll see how it goes but for now I’m having a darn good time.

My first foray into fretlessness was a SX P-Bass that I owned about 10 years ago. It needed a setup in the worst way and I never really got into that bass. I sold it on here after owning it for only a brief period of time.
 
So I played a fretless for the first time today. Really played it. It was a really nice Moser. Now I have to have a fretless. I didn't buy it as it is a brand new bass in the shop, but had scratches and dents in the wood and for that money, it better be perfect. They weren't So I played a fretless for the first time today. Really played it. It was a really nice Moser. Now I have to have a fretless. I didn't buy it as it is a brand new bass in the shop, but had scratches and dents in the wood and for that money, it better be perfect. They weren't willing to come down, so I left. No worries, but it now infected me.

It had no fret lines and wasn't too bad to get used to. Kiesel will be getting a call on Tuesday for a PB4 fretless. Then the wait.

Is this how it happened for other fretless players? You tried it and it was over?

For the price of a Kiesel, check out Brady Muckelroy. You can find him on Facebook, Instagram, or at Link Removed. I got a pair of his basses after looking at Kiesel, and I'm floored by them. FWIW, I'm not sponsored by Brady, but after 43 years, I finally have the basses I've wanted for all that time.
 
After seeing / hearing Rick Danko play his fretless Ampeg Devil Bass with The Band on stage at the Sullivan Auditorium in Chicago I was convinced. Rick was proof that a fretless needn’t sound like one. When my Jazz Bass was stolen in ‘68, I picked up a cheap Conrad fretless and used nothing else for the next 5 years of gigging - nobody cared. I also picked up an upright.

Today it’s rare that I’ll choose a fretless for a gig, but if I do it’s without any fear. Once you really learn the technique, you don’t lose it. At least I haven’t, and I'll bet you won't either!
 
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When I got my Steinberger L2 in the fall of 1983 I decided to pull the frets out of the Aria Pro II SB-900 that it replaced. I did a hack job. I wish I had never done that and I wish I had kept that bass.
I sold it a few years later and eventually got a Music Man Sterling Fretless (the real thing, not the import). I just didn't bond with it.
Now I am ready to get another fretless. Good thing I waited until a Pedulla Buzz goes for $5500 new. :D
 
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Hi 4bluestrings :)

You tried it and it was over?


fretless isn't the disease. It's the cure...

Is it a virus? (it is contagious!!!)

Is it a drug? (it is addictive!!!)

I can' t say, but it changed my life! :D

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may the bass be with you

Wise(b)ass
 
So I played a fretless for the first time today. Really played it. It was a really nice Moser. Now I have to have a fretless. I didn't buy it as it is a brand new bass in the shop, but had scratches and dents in the wood and for that money, it better be perfect. They weren't willing to come down, so I left. No worries, but it now infected me.

It had no fret lines and wasn't too bad to get used to. Kiesel will be getting a call on Tuesday for a PB4 fretless. Then the wait.

Is this how it happened for other fretless players? You tried it and it was over?

Not quite that way for me. Initially I studied string bass. From there I moved to fretted electrics, next I added a string bass to my arsenal and then got fretless electrics. I have two of them, a Rob Allen and a Carvin with a high "C".
So I played a fretless for the first time today. Really played it. It was a really nice Moser. Now I have to have a fretless. I didn't buy it as it is a brand new bass in the shop, but had scratches and dents in the wood and for that money, it better be perfect. They weren't willing to come down, so I left. No worries, but it now infected me.

It had no fret lines and wasn't too bad to get used to. Kiesel will be getting a call on Tuesday for a PB4 fretless. Then the wait.

Is this how it happened for other fretless players? You tried it and it was over?


That's not quite how it went for me. I began studying string bass, from there I moved to fretted electrics. Next I added a string bass to my arsenal and then got fretless electrics. I have two of them, a Rob Allen and a Carvin that has a high "C" rather than a low "B". I also have a fretted six string Carvin so I have both the high "C" and the low "B".

stevieg
 
For me, fretless is like an addiction, and addiction is a disease...

My first “gateway” fretless was an 80’s Aria Pro II Integra that my friend gave me. It sounded like a wet turd so I ripped the frets out. This was in ‘93 when I had just started playing bass (but played guitar for 6 years before that, so I was not all that green to instruments). This was also the first time I encountered and Ebanol fingerboard and what happens to it when frets are ripped out of it.

I don’t know what happened to that bass...I just can’t for the life of me remember...
So I then bought a ‘94 Stingray fretless. Hands down the best production fretless ever. But 2 years later I wound up trading it for the L2500 I have now...I wanted a 5-string more than a fretless.
I’ve been missing that Stingray and wound up going through a handful of Chinese fretless basses from Rondo, it was literally a revolving door. I couldn’t afford to buy another Stingray, and was looking for that same playability and aggressive tone, but it was a futile search.

8 years later, after acquiring a taste for Jazz basses, I was able to put together a very fine fretless 5-string Jazz out of a Squier body and roasted maple/Ebony Warmoth neck. Turned out to be the best playing non-production fretless bass ever.
I currently have Fender Marcus Miller pickups out of the MM signature bass in it, and they sound great. But I will be getting a set of Quarter Pound Jazz pickups for it, because I still want that aggressive, thunderous growl I get out of them in my Fretted Jazz V.

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When I feel the need for some fretless inspiration, I typically watch two videos, and both styles cant’d be further disconnected. Both music styles inspire me in different ways.



 
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