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Future Impact now available!! WAS: deep impact reissue!!! interested?

#3,044
maisbass said:
So was a list ever posted of all the cc comands or NPRN commands and what parameter they control on the FI? It would be nice to have such a list in order to program customizable interfaces. Thx.
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I don't think it was posted but it is available. @lokki sent it to me, I'm not sure if it's supposed to be 100% public? But I'm sure you can get your hands on one.
 
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#3,047
NRPN info in the spoiler tag.

FUTURE IMPACT COMMUNICATION CODING
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A full message:
176, 99, MSB // controller on channel 1, NRPN MSB
176, 98, LSB // controller on channel 1, NRPN LSB
176, 6, VAL // controller on channel 1, DATA WHEEL VALUE

If the MSB value does not change, it will not be sent, the receiver must assume it remains unchanged.
If the LSB value does not change, it will not be sent, the receiver must assume it remains unchanged.
However, ca. every 1 sec the status of MSB and LSB will be erased, in a new message after that they
will be sent again.

MSB=10: Updating parameters
LSB:
1 Disable/Enable parameter update 0: disable updating parameters, 1: enable and perform updating
all parameters.
When the editor program is started, it has to download all parameters one by one to the target.
If the target recalculates (unnecessarily) after each parameter the algorithms, it may loose some
MIDI data. Instead, at startup the editor starts with a "disable updating parameters", then it
dumps all parameters, and at the end it issues a "enable updating parameters and perform updating".
From this point on updating remains active, since the individual parameters will be edited one by one.

Since the communication happens with 7 bit unsigned data, whenever it is logically justified to use a
negative value on the screen (e.g. amplitude with reverse polarity, transposition down) the transmitted
value scale is shifted up by the amount of the negative limit, so in this case the low end of the scale
is always zero, not a negative number. Otherwise, if the low end is zero or positive, then the same
value is transmitted as seen on the editor screen.

MSB=11: VCO1
LSB:
00 1 VCO coarse -12...48 semitones
01 2 VCO fine -63...63
02 3 VCO beat -63...63
03 4 Saw envelope decay time 0...127
04 5 Saw envelope amp. mod. -63...63
05 6 PWM offset 0...127
06 7 PWM LFO frequency 1...127
07 8 PWM LFO depth 0...127
08 9 Saw wave amplitude 0...127
09 10 Square wave amplitude 0...127
10 11 Triangle wave amplitude 0...127
11 12 VCO output level 0...127

MSB=12: VCO2
LSB:
12 1 VCO coarse -12...48 semitones
13 2 VCO fine -63...63
14 3 VCO beat -63...63
15 4 Saw envelope decay time 0...127
16 5 Saw envelope amp. mod. -63...63
17 6 PWM offset 0...127
18 7 PWM LFO frequency 1...127
19 8 PWM LFO depth 0...127
20 9 Saw wave amplitude 0...127
21 10 Square wave amplitude 0...127
22 11 Triangle wave amplitude 0...127
23 12 VCO output level 0...127

MSB=13: VCO3
LSB:
24 1 VCO coarse -12...48 semitones
25 2 VCO fine -63...63
26 3 VCO beat -63...63
27 4 Saw envelope decay time 0...127
28 5 Saw envelope amp. mod. -63...63
29 6 PWM offset 0...127
30 7 PWM LFO frequency 1...127
31 8 PWM LFO depth 0...127
32 9 Saw wave amplitude 0...127
33 10 Square wave amplitude 0...127
34 11 Triangle wave amplitude 0...127
35 12 VCO output level 0...127

MSB=14: VCO4
LSB:
36 1 VCO coarse -12...48 semitones
37 2 VCO fine -63...63
38 3 VCO beat -63...63
39 4 Saw envelope decay time 0...127
40 5 Saw envelope amp. mod. -63...63
41 6 PWM offset 0...127
42 7 PWM LFO frequency 1...127
43 8 PWM LFO depth 0...127
44 9 Saw wave amplitude 0...127
45 10 Square wave amplitude 0...127
46 11 Triangle wave amplitude 0...127
47 12 VCO output level 0...127

MSB=15: HARMONIZER+DISTORTION
LSB:
48 1 Voice2 transposition 0...3 fifth, oct, oct+fifth, 2 oct
49 2 Voice3 transposition 0...3 fifth, oct, oct+fifth, 2 oct
50 3 Bass volume 0...127
51 4 Voice1 (+1 oct) volume 0...127
52 5 Voice2 (var. trp.) volume 0...127
53 6 Voice3 (var. trp.) volume 0...127
54 7 Distortion grade 0...31
55 8 Distortion tone 0..127

MSB=16: OUTPUT MIXER
LSB:
56 1 Bass volume 0...127
57 2 VCF volume 0...127

MSB=17: ENVELOPE GENERATORS
LSB:
58 1 VCA attack time 1...127
59 2 VCA release time 1...127
60 3 VCF attack time 1...127
61 4 VCF decay time 1...127
62 5 Noise attack time 1...127
63 6 Noise decay time 1...127

MSB=18: VCF
LSB:
64 1 Bass volume 0...127
65 2 Distortion volume 0...127
66 3 Distortion through AR 0...127
67 4 VCO through inverse AR 0...127
68 5 Noise volume 0...127
69 6 VCF mod.freq.vintage -1...80 either vintage (not exactly exponential, 10 units / octave), or new. if vintage != -1 then freq.new irrelevant.
70 7 VCF mod.freq.new 36...122 exactly exponential, 1 unit / semitone
71 8 2nd VCF mod.freq. 0...24 two octaves, 1 unit / semitone
72 9 VCF mod. env.follower 0...127
73 10 VCF mod. AD generator 0...127
74 11 VCF mod. pitch follow 0...1 tracking the pitch exactly.
75 12 VCF type 0...4 LPF, HPF, BPF, NTC, OFF
76 13 VCF Q (as 10*Q) 7...127
77 14 VCF slope 0...1 12dB/oct, 24dB/oct

MSB=19: PORTAMENTO, MIDI, KEYBOARD
LSB:
78 1 Portamento time 0...127
79 2 Portamento mode 0...1 0:fix rate, 1:fix time
80 3 MIDI channel 0...16 0:OMNI, 1...16:channel
81 4 Pitch bend range 0...12 0:off, 1...12 semitones
82 5 Octave transpose -2...1
83 6 Trigger/Gate mode 0...1 0:Gate, 1:Trigger
84 7 Key priority 0...3 0:lower, 1:upper, 2:first, 3:last

MSB=20: LFO
LSB:
85 1 LFO frequency 1...127
86 2 LFO delay 0...127
87 3 LFO depth to VCF 0...127
88 4 LFO depth to VCO 0...127

MSB=21: EFFECTS
LSB:
89 1 Effect Type 0...3 0:OFF, 1:CHORUS/FLANGER/SLAPBACK/REVERB, 2:OVERDRIVE, 3:EQ
90 2 Blend BASS 0...127 for type=1 and 0...1 for type 2,3
91 3 Blend VCF 0...127 for type=1 and 0...1 for type 2,3
92 4 Parameter 1 0...127
93 5 Parameter 2 0...127
94 6 Parameter 3 0...127
95 7 Parameter 4 0...127
96 8 Parameter 5 0...127
97 9 Parameter 6 0...127
98 10 Parameter 7 0...127
99 11 Parameter 8 0...127
100 12 Parameter 9 0...127
101 13 Parameter 10 0...127
102 14 Parameter 11 0...127
103 15 Parameter 12 0...127

Depending on Effect Type, Effect Parameters 1...12 have different meanings and ranges.
CHORUS/FLANGER/SLAPBACK/REVERB:
92 4 LFO A frq. 0...127
93 5 LFO B frq. 0...127
94 6 Level1 -64...63
95 7 Delay1 0...127
96 8 Mod1 A 0...127
97 9 Mod1 B 0...127
98 10 Level2 -64...63
99 11 Delay2 0...127
100 12 Mod2 A 0...127
101 13 Mod2 B 0...127
102 14 Feedback level 0...127
103 15 Feedback damping 0...127

DISTORTION:
92 4 Drive 0...127
93 5 Level -6...6 dB
94 6 Dummy 0...127
95 7 Dummy 0...127
96 8 Dummy 0...127
97 9 Dummy 0...127
98 10 Dummy 0...127
99 11 Dummy 0...127
100 12 Dummy 0...127
101 13 Dummy 0...127
102 14 Dummy 0...127
103 15 Dummy 0...127

EQ:
92 4 Bass frq. 0...127
93 5 Bass Slope 0...127
94 6 Bass Boost -20...20 dB
95 7 Mid1 frq. 0...127
96 8 Mid1 Q 10...100
97 9 Mid1 Boost -20...20 dB
98 10 Mid2 frq. 0...127
99 11 Mid2 Boost -20...20 dB
100 12 Mid2 Q 10...100
101 13 Treble frq. 0...127
102 14 Treble Slope 0...127
103 15 Treble Boost -15...15 dB
 
#3,048
mellobass said:
For those of you in for batch #2: Did you get confirmation, request for a deposit, ETA date? I emailed a couple of weeks ago and got a response from Gabor asking for my shipping address, but nothing after that. I assume I'm on the list, but would be happier with a confirmation.
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I purchased the FI the day after the first batch were sold out, using paypal so I hope to receive one unit very soon:hyper:
 
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#3,049
BASS_TARD said:
I purchased the FI the day after the first batch were sold out, using paypal so I hope to receive one unit very soon:hyper:
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Now you have me worried. The pre-order page says "If you want to secure your position to own a unit just please send an email to [...]". Which I did. I was asked for my address, but not payment. I expected a confirmation that I was in the queue, and maybe something about how to pay, but nuthin'. Didn't see anything about PayPal either. ugh. Fingers crossed!
 
#3,051
mellobass said:
Now you have me worried. The pre-order page says "If you want to secure your position to own a unit just please send an email to [...]". Which I did. I was asked for my address, but not payment. I expected a confirmation that I was in the queue, and maybe something about how to pay, but nuthin'. Didn't see anything about PayPal either. ugh. Fingers crossed!
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Hmmm, I had a friend order for me on 12/18 and he didn't mention being asked for an email....

Who can confirm if we made it into the second batch?
 
#3,053
maisbass said:
So was a list ever posted of all the cc comands or NPRN commands and what parameter they control on the FI? It would be nice to have such a list in order to program customizable interfaces. Thx.
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All normal CC commands are listed and explained in the manual. The NRPN commands were not yet officially published, but they are no secret either, I just thought it does not belong into the manual that is for everybody.
 
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#3,055
mellobass said:
Well yes of course, but the reason I asked about others' experience is because I'm not getting replies to my inquiries. I kinda hoped someone would say "yeah, this is how the process works". Guess I'll try emailing Gabor again...
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As I said in my post (#3041) I emailed him, but I hadn't heard back just yet.

:thumbsup: I just checked my email again and received a message from Gabor saying I am "in".

Since your scenario is pretty much the same as mine — ie sent address, haven't sent money yet — I imagine you are "in" the February batch as well.


So for all those who signed up for the second batch, you'll likely get an email requesting payment details soonish (I imagine, I've still not been asked for payment yet, but have cash ready for that moment).
 
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#3,056
Feral Feline said:
As I said in my post (#3041) I emailed him, but I hadn't heard back just yet.

:thumbsup: I just checked my email again and received a message from Gabor saying I am "in".

Since your scenario is pretty much the same as mine — ie sent address, haven't sent money yet — I imagine you are "in" the February batch as well.


So for all those who signed up for the second batch, you'll likely get an email requesting payment details soonish (I imagine, I've still not been asked for payment yet, but have cash ready for that moment).
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@Feral Feline - Glad to hear it! :thumbsup: I also received a reply from Gabor last night saying I'm "in". Phew! We just have to remember we are dealing with a couple of guys here, not a big company. :)
 
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#3,059
Witness412 said:
I order one in the second batch but my money got taken the second I ordered. I am confused on way some people money was accepted and others were not.
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i think the early second batch orderers were handled this way. maybe because gabor was not really sure how many/if pedals were left. later on, they changed the website and wrote something like "preorder by writing a mail to this address...
 
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#3,060
Adamixoye said:
Has anyone paid or fought the non-duties charges on their TNT bill?
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No. But I received one, they want $38.63 to cover a $8.63 customs charge.
$08.63 DT (Duty/Taxes and Fees)
$15.00 HDG (Handling Fee/Flate Rate)
$15.00 PI (Residence Fee-Duty) which is apparently an extra charge for delivering to a residence vs business

This is the first time I've bene charged customs or had anything shipped via TNT. You can do a search online, there's plenty of discussion about this. I don't have any additional constructive comments to add to the TNT discussion.
 

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