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Future Impact now available!! WAS: deep impact reissue!!! interested?
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Was this actually promised or are you using a Jedi mind trick? Lol. I dont remember reading that it was but would love it if it is true!
Andras Szalay
Commercial User
Neither sine wave nor FM was ever promised.
But once I made a notice about a request from a TalkBass user like that:
Effect on-off flip through MIDI: Control 69 (Hold 2) should be used for this. The third byte can be any value, a message will always flip between on and off.
Now I am working on update features. I wanted to implement this, but I realize this would not work the way as probably the user thinks it should. Any MIDI control pedal that I know will send the value 127 when pressed, and 0 when released. So, by the above definition the FI would turn on when you press down the pedal, but would turn immediately off when you release it, or the other way round. So, I think the definition should be correctly:
Effect on-off flip through MIDI: Control 69 (Hold 2) should be used for this. If the third byte is >64 the FI will always flip between on and off.
This way it will flip on or off whenever the pedal is pressed. Is that what you want, or did I misunderstand something?
Andras Szalay
But once I made a notice about a request from a TalkBass user like that:
Effect on-off flip through MIDI: Control 69 (Hold 2) should be used for this. The third byte can be any value, a message will always flip between on and off.
Now I am working on update features. I wanted to implement this, but I realize this would not work the way as probably the user thinks it should. Any MIDI control pedal that I know will send the value 127 when pressed, and 0 when released. So, by the above definition the FI would turn on when you press down the pedal, but would turn immediately off when you release it, or the other way round. So, I think the definition should be correctly:
Effect on-off flip through MIDI: Control 69 (Hold 2) should be used for this. If the third byte is >64 the FI will always flip between on and off.
This way it will flip on or off whenever the pedal is pressed. Is that what you want, or did I misunderstand something?
Andras Szalay
Well it is pretty close to perfect as is. What updates are you working on? Just midi stuff?
Adamixoye
A PT Pro is cool for worship, right?
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Hello @Andras Szalay, I believe I was the one who requested this, and yes, I think the second one is probably the proper implementation if I understand it correctly (and if I understand how my MIDI controller works).
Adamixoye
A PT Pro is cool for worship, right?
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@Andras Szalay two more related questions. I have not tested it much, so can you tell me two things about how the FI responds to MIDI clock?
(a) Can anything be synced to MIDI clock (LFOs, attack, etc.)?
(b) Is MIDI clock mirrored at the MIDI out port?
(a) Can anything be synced to MIDI clock (LFOs, attack, etc.)?
(b) Is MIDI clock mirrored at the MIDI out port?
Andras Szalay
Commercial User
(a) No, this was not planned.
(b) It supposed to, even as the user guide describes MIDI THRU it should, but I believe it was not implemented. I will include this in the next release.
Andras Szalay
Adamixoye
A PT Pro is cool for worship, right?
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Okay, sounds great! And if you didn't see my earlier post about MIDI CC 69, I do think you second description would work.
Hello, recently I own a FI, I'm newest in midi world and I'm searching the way to control the parameters of paramater section with my FCB1010 by the expression pedals, and can't find a list of midi cc numbers to assign them.
I been thankfull if you can put here a list of midi cc to control 11 parameters.
Thanks.
I been thankfull if you can put here a list of midi cc to control 11 parameters.
Thanks.
There's just a few things you can change using CCs - from the user guide:
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MODULATION (Control 1; default value: 127)
BREATH CONTROL (Control 2; default value: 127)
MIDI VOLUME (Control 7; default value: 127)
SOSTENUTO (Control 66; Effect On/Off).
SOFT PEDAL (Control 67; Program decrement switch)
FILTER CUTOFF (Control 74; default value: 64)
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You can do a lot more using MIDI NRPN messages but I don't think the FCB1010 can do that.
Hey everyone! I recently purchased some Barefoot Buttons for a few of my pedals. I bought two specifically for the FI and just thought I would let everyone know that the FI pedal buttons are TOO big to fit Barefoot Buttons. I did eventually get a button on the pedal but I had to do some metal work on the button. Just thought I would let everyone know before someone runs into the same problem that I had.
Here's a link to Barefoot Buttons in case if you are unfamiliar with them.
Barefoot Buttons – Guitar Pedal Buttons Easy On Your Feet
Here's a link to Barefoot Buttons in case if you are unfamiliar with them.
Barefoot Buttons – Guitar Pedal Buttons Easy On Your Feet
hello, does anyone know how to get (is it possible?) jazzy piano sounds on FI, something like Rhodes piano or similar?
Igor
Igor
Not sure really, I haven’t tried it. CC 66 according to the General MIDI spec:
On/Off switch – Like the Sustain controller (CC 64), However it only holds notes that were “On” when the pedal was pressed. People use it to “hold” chords” and play melodies over the held chord.
0 to 63 = Off, 64 to 127 = On
Nothing piano-like is possible at this time. If we had full ADSR that'd increase the chances of someone coming up with something remotely piano-like.
Hmmmm, I came up with some short staccato plucked string sounding things (look for Oriental patches in Google drive) that might be able to be shifted down for a deeper tone. But we have no sustain / release params, so no way to draw them out into a ringing piano tone.
Keep in mind the FI is monophonic. So you won't ever be playing chords.
I like the sound 57, it sounds a bit like a strange piano, I'm going to try to modify some of the parameters to make sound softer and wider and see what will come out. If i made progress i will add patch to google share folder.
Tnx fot the tip.
Best regards,
Igor
Hey Funk - do you know offhand the diameter of the FI's buttons? I ask because I make a similar product (not shilling here, just gathering info!) and have had to create different models for different switch sizes (e.g. 11mm for Zoom pedals while 10mm suits the vast majority of standard pedal switches, and I recently did one just over 9mm for a couple specific pedals) - If the FI size is a new one then I would feel inclined to do a new version. Thanks.
I'm experiencing something funny with my FI in some presets (37 factory) I play one note mute it and when I play another other note the FI plays the first note and then change to the new one quickly, thats not the case when playing the same note or when using a MIDI keyboard. It gets more notoroius as the distance between notes increases. Any idea whats going on? I tried with the note off and note one and attack and decay parameters in the pedal (haven't tried the editor) but had no luck.
I ordered from Barefoot Buttons and their measurements for their largest button is 10mm, which was too small for the FI. I can't remember what the measurement of the FI switch is but 11mm sounds like it would fit. I can get you an exact measurement tomorrow if you would like. Do you have a link to your product?
