Well that's a bit embarrassing. I thought the MIDI faeries might send the signal straight to the headphone output of the computer, but I guess not
... I'll try the conventional way with an amp and see what happens! Thanks 
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Future Impact now available!! WAS: deep impact reissue!!! interested?
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... I'll try the conventional way with an amp and see what happens! Thanks 
We all overlook the obvious at times. The good thing is to be able to laugh about it afterwards.Well that's a bit embarrassing. I thought the MIDI faeries might send the signal straight to the headphone output of the computer, but I guess not
Btw, you are not the first one to make that oversight. Others have done it too. Most people have trouble getting the editor to recognize the FI. So you nailed the hard part, and overlooked the easy part.
Andras Szalay
Commercial User
I recognized a bug today. The third position of the modifier parameters is Attack Time (of the VCF Envelope). This works only in Vintage Mode (when FRQ VINTAGE is on), not if you use FRQ NEW. We have this from the very beginning, funny that nobody ever reported it. I will fix it in the next release.
Andras Szalay
Andras Szalay
A lesser developer would have kept quiet about a firmware flaw. You are one of a kind Andras!
Thankyou for your continued support
When you get a chance can you speak more on what we could expect from the update in terms of tracking? I am interested in what you have done there.
Hey all, I tried updating the firmware and using the computer editor with my FI for the first time today, and frustratingly I can't get the computer to see the FI. It's been years since I used hardware MIDI synths, but I have a couple of USB to MIDI dongles, and with neither one does the editor or web updater see the FI. I'm on a mac. The Audio/MIDI setup also does't see the FI. When I push and rotate the Edit/Bank up knob, Logic sees the incoming MIDI information, so the dongle appears to work.
Any pointers?
Any pointers?
Yeah make sure you read the manual on this and follow it to the t. You have to put the pedal in update mode which I forget the details on. If you do everything exactly right then it's probably on your midi cable.
The manual is key for using this pedal.
Andras Szalay
Commercial User
The MIDI implementation of the FI includes the feature that control 66 (sostenuto) turns the effect on if the value > 63, and turns it off if it is <= 63. A while ago several people here requested the implementation of EFFECT ON/OFF on a control message so, that it should flip on/off on every message. I wrote the specification, and if I remember well it was confirmed that this is what you want:
Effect on-off flip through MIDI: Control 69 (Hold 2) is used for this. The data byte can be any value, a message will always flip between on and off.
Now I implemented this for the next release, but I realized that probably this is not what you wanted. What you want is that you press a MIDI pedal, and you flip on/off on every press on the pedal. But I believe every pedal that can be found on the market will send two values, one when you press it (typically 127) and another when you release it (typically 0). So, if you use the FI with such a pedal then as you press the pedal it will turn on, but as you release it it turns immediately off (or the other way round). Not right. Should I rather modify the specification this way:
Effect on-off flip through MIDI: Control 69 (Hold 2) is used for this. If the data byte is > 63 then the message will always flip between on and off. If the data byte is <= 63 then the message is ignored.
What do you think?
Andras Szalay
Effect on-off flip through MIDI: Control 69 (Hold 2) is used for this. The data byte can be any value, a message will always flip between on and off.
Now I implemented this for the next release, but I realized that probably this is not what you wanted. What you want is that you press a MIDI pedal, and you flip on/off on every press on the pedal. But I believe every pedal that can be found on the market will send two values, one when you press it (typically 127) and another when you release it (typically 0). So, if you use the FI with such a pedal then as you press the pedal it will turn on, but as you release it it turns immediately off (or the other way round). Not right. Should I rather modify the specification this way:
Effect on-off flip through MIDI: Control 69 (Hold 2) is used for this. If the data byte is > 63 then the message will always flip between on and off. If the data byte is <= 63 then the message is ignored.
What do you think?
Andras Szalay
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Hello @Andras Szalay, I was definitely requesting this!
Short answer: I think the second way you suggest is better, where values <=63 are ignored.
Longer answer: you are obviously correct that many MIDI devices will send a MIDI message for both "press" and "release." I use MIDI Designer on iOS and this is the default behavior for virtual buttons. However, MIDI Designer also has the very helpful option where you can design a button to only send the "press" MIDI message. Only somewhat more recently did I figure out this option in MIDI Designer. So in this case it ultimately does not matter to me, but I think that for general use by a range of users the second way would be preferred.
Andras Szalay
Commercial User
After using The Future Impact for 2 years, I have a suggestion.
A "Punch" feature in the F.I. Software update.
The waveforms are very smooth sounding, but not "punchy", or "Snappy" enough in the note envelope for certain percussive bass sounds.
If ADSR cannot be implemented (as earlier stated by Mr Szalay) - Then a punch filter will be VERY useful.
By "punch" - I'm refering to the kind of attack you get when you SLAP a string with your thumb (most synths can give you this kick drum-like attack by adjusting the ADSR, or the "Punch" filter.
Implementing this feature would be a masterstroke, if possible.
Regardless, I Thank you Mr Szalay for this great pedal!
A "Punch" feature in the F.I. Software update.
The waveforms are very smooth sounding, but not "punchy", or "Snappy" enough in the note envelope for certain percussive bass sounds.
If ADSR cannot be implemented (as earlier stated by Mr Szalay) - Then a punch filter will be VERY useful.
By "punch" - I'm refering to the kind of attack you get when you SLAP a string with your thumb (most synths can give you this kick drum-like attack by adjusting the ADSR, or the "Punch" filter.
Implementing this feature would be a masterstroke, if possible.
Regardless, I Thank you Mr Szalay for this great pedal!
After using The Future Impact for 2 years, I have a suggestion.
A "Punch" feature in the F.I. Software update.
The waveforms are very smooth sounding, but not "punchy", or "Snappy" enough in the note envelope for certain percussive bass sounds.
If ADSR cannot be implemented (as earlier stated by Mr Szalay) - Then a punch filter will be VERY useful.
By "punch" - I'm refering to the kind of attack you get when you SLAP a string with your thumb (most synths can give you this kick drum-like attack by adjusting the ADSR, or the "Punch" filter.
Implementing this feature would be a masterstroke, if possible.
Regardless, I Thank you Mr Szalay for this great pedal!
I just run it through a tube preamp with 60Hz and 4K boosted a bit and it sounds amazing.
I’m in just picked it up and ran through the presets last night.
Nothing better than a Drake running through a Future Impact!
Enjoy! Make sure and get the TB presets.
Other thing I would suggest is scrolling the stock presets in the editor so you can see the names of them. They provide a really good base for making your own, plus there are some presets like Octaver, filter only, which helped me learn how to tweak the sounds better as well.
How do you even connect this thing to a computer? I need some sort of midi to usb? Doesn’t give much info on how too
I have to link this because it tells you everything you need to know:, but yes you need a MIDI to USB. They rate the best ones in the manual for your OS. I use the Uno.
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