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Future Impact now available!! WAS: deep impact reissue!!! interested?

#4,701
Quatschmacher said:
I had a Squaver. It triggers pretty quickly. Though as with any pitch detection system, you don’t always get a steady pitch, especially at note-on. It does sound the business. The reason I sent it back was due to noise problems (which have now been fixed) and the fact that that the filter only had an envelope follower (no ADSR).
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I have the SonicSmith Convertor, which just does pitch --> CV, as I planned to use it with a Moog Minitaur (agree Moog bass sounds are awesome), but it didn't really work out as the Minitaur's CV implementation is awful and the convertor didn't track that great - the FI is way better.

If PandaMIDI came out with a pedal that could convert mono bass guitar --> MIDI with full implementation (ADSR, pitch bend, support to low B, 5-pin MIDI & USB, etc) they could sell it for $500 and I'd be first in line. Without knowing anything about what they are doing i bet they are (or could be) pretty close to achieving this.

The Jam Origin MIDI software tracks well but hasn't been updated in 3 years and doesn't support pitch bend. I had a peavey midi bass but it became really flakey after 25 years. I'm still waiting for a usable bass MIDI adaptor - or maybe Moog will create a Moog Bass Guitar since their synth guitar was so successful (that's a joke), but until then the FI is the best thing i've found.

Now all I need to do is find time to really work on the FI, its frippin deep...

-carl
 
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Good day all,

Someone changed the name of the main folder in the shared drive. They added A) in front of it. Please don’t do this because the link for everyone else can become corrupt.

If you wish to organize your folders and patches for personal use, please do so separately with folders that are not associated with the google share. I made the correction, and as always, the drive is backed up frequently with time machine.

Thanks for your understanding and patches uploaded to the share.
 
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So, last night was finally the night I got to sit down and plug in and play around with my Future Impact. I haven't board mounted it yet...and for ease of exploring I grabbed my little Vibrochamp, the FI and my Dingwall NG3 and sat on the living room couch. The input sensitivity setup was super easy and way more forgiving than things like the Bananana Matryoshka. I also found that to me it feels like it's quick and the tracking is definitely at the better end of the spectrum, although it depends on the patch. It's easiest to play when you keep in mind you need to stay clean and tight and any of the slurry stuff won't translate, so quick on and off the frets. Some of the glitches in patches are actually cool and I'd be happy to keep those so, sometimes not so 'clean'. ;)

The bad news is that while the FI I purchased here on TB was used/new-condition (seller said it only had a couple hours on it), and indeed looked pristine, one of the LEDs is non-functional on the number panel. Usable all the same, but a bummer. Luckily it's the lower right, center number so once you realize it you can still make sense.

It took me about 2 hours to goof around with what I assume are the original sounds from 01-99(can't believe 2 hours of previous play were enough to install or mess with many). And definitely found a handful that are nice right out of the box.

Can't wait to dig into the TB library of sounds. Rather than messing with all the sub-folders, I just DL'ed the whole master-folder & all contents, which I assume is the most effective way to stay 'hands off' on the files but also grab content. Next up, I'll download the editor and figure out how to load/move whatever into an area of the unit to keep all the most useful patches in the same region.

Right out of the box, if I could switch anything it would be the multi-function up/down button as the only way to toggle patches. I'd take a single knob in addition to it that you could twist your way through the patches. I know you can use the other knob for banks, but...
 
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maisbass said:
Agree. Patch settings is the issue on clip 3. So perhaps the problems you are experiencing @Leocapri are not technique issues, more like programming issues. Clip 2 sounds fine, clip 3 has a bit of a glitch due to your patch settings.
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Unfortunately I am swamped at work and not getting any FI time, but I listened to clip 3 again more closely. I think part of the problem may be that you are trying to play the line really legato in clip 3 and the pedal doesn't always respond well to that. Another thought.... The notes you are playing are quite low... Are you playing them in the same low octave on your bass? Sometimes due to the slow low waveform of a low pitch I have found it can slow tracking a bit. Perhaps try creating the same sound but playing it up an octave higher on your bass and make the square wave and octave lower in the editor. I do that for some applications and it works well. Also, depending on the patch, I usually blend in some of my bass signal to mask the occasional glitch or slow re-triggering.
 
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BurningSkies said:
So, last night was finally the night I got to sit down and plug in and play around with my Future Impact. I haven't board mounted it yet...and for ease of exploring I grabbed my little Vibrochamp, the FI and my Dingwall NG3 and sat on the living room couch. The input sensitivity setup was super easy and way more forgiving than things like the Bananana Matryoshka. I also found that to me it feels like it's quick and the tracking is definitely at the better end of the spectrum, although it depends on the patch. It's easiest to play when you keep in mind you need to stay clean and tight and any of the slurry stuff won't translate, so quick on and off the frets. Some of the glitches in patches are actually cool and I'd be happy to keep those so, sometimes not so 'clean'. ;)

The bad news is that while the FI I purchased here on TB was used/new-condition (seller said it only had a couple hours on it), and indeed looked pristine, one of the LEDs is non-functional on the number panel. Usable all the same, but a bummer. Luckily it's the lower right, center number so once you realize it you can still make sense.

It took me about 2 hours to goof around with what I assume are the original sounds from 01-99(can't believe 2 hours of previous play were enough to install or mess with many). And definitely found a handful that are nice right out of the box.

Can't wait to dig into the TB library of sounds. Rather than messing with all the sub-folders, I just DL'ed the whole master-folder & all contents, which I assume is the most effective way to stay 'hands off' on the files but also grab content. Next up, I'll download the editor and figure out how to load/move whatever into an area of the unit to keep all the most useful patches in the same region.

Right out of the box, if I could switch anything it would be the multi-function up/down button as the only way to toggle patches. I'd take a single knob in addition to it that you could twist your way through the patches. I know you can use the other knob for banks, but...
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Sorry to hear about the LED issue. Thats a bummer.

Knowing the genre of music you play, I cant wait for you to really dig into this pedal. Wait until you create a sub low patch playing through Monique. It's going to blow your mind and rock your subs.

Check out this patch I made. I made 4 versions of it, but I'm pretty sure this is the right one. It's for a Regga medley my band covers which requires a heavy sub synth sound. Not dub, just a super fat floor rumbler. My sound engineer laughs every time I kick it in. It's huge through a PA. Just make sure you change the .txt extension to .prg before trying to load it into the editor.
 

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anyone use a Disaster Area Designs SMARTClock to set tempo on the FI? from reports it looks like it works well and can set tempo on digital delays as well.

was planning on

DAD Smartclock --> SA Reflex (which can also use the tempo) --> FI

as well as a analog out of the smartclock --> TC flashback2 for tempo

-carl
 
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maisbass said:
Sorry to hear about the LED issue. Thats a bummer.

Knowing the genre of music you play, I cant wait for you to really dig into this pedal. Wait until you create a sub low patch playing through Monique. It's going to blow your mind and rock your subs.

Check out this patch I made. I made 4 versions of it, but I'm pretty sure this is the right one. It's for a Regga medley my band covers which requires a heavy sub synth sound. Not dub, just a super fat floor rumbler. My sound engineer laughs every time I kick it in. It's huge through a PA. Just make sure you change the .txt extension to .prg before trying to load it into the editor.
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Very cool. I'll definitely check it out. For a bit of context our net is cast pretty wide these days, and I've been using tones that people have been mistaking for synth for few years. ;)

Some of the more creative sounds I use regularly:
in the studio:

Live:
Waves: If you jump to 2:24ish, you'll hear me dig in...no keys here just guitar & bass.
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And here something a bit more aggressive with a drum & bass part:
Boss Battle: Starting around 4:30 bass ramps up.
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BurningSkies said:
The bad news is that while the FI I purchased here on TB was used/new-condition (seller said it only had a couple hours on it), and indeed looked pristine, one of the LEDs is non-functional on the number panel. Usable all the same, but a bummer. Luckily it's the lower right, center number so once you realize it you can still make sense.
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I can almost guarantee that if you contact panda about this, and ask nicely, they will ship you an led panel replacement.
They did exactly this when my foot switch broke. And I bought used.
They are tops!!!
 
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GisserD said:
I can almost guarantee that if you contact panda about this, and ask nicely, they will ship you an led panel replacement.
They did exactly this when my foot switch broke. And I bought used.
They are tops!!!
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Cool. I may do this. I mean, I bought it used, but the thing is pristine with all box,materials, etc.
 
#4,713
maisbass said:
Wait for it.... wait for it...
@Adamixoye will be by shortly to tell you his slick method. I won’t spoil the fun.
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MADChuudoku said:
hey guys, does anyone know of a compact midi controller i can use to scroll through patches on the FI but also displays the NAME of the patch?
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Not really "compact" but the Source Audio Soleman gives you MIDI Clock out via tap-tempo, patch changes, macro mode (which you'll probably want with the FI if you want to toggle bypass mode), and supports glorious patch names. No idea why more MIDI controllers don't provide patch naming opportunities.
 
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BurningSkies said:
So cheat sheet on stage then?
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Nope. I was waiting for @Adamixoye to mention about how uses mididesigner to control the FI. Pretty slick what he does.

I’ve said it many times before here. I use my ipad to make patch changes. Basically using unreal book to send midi program changes to FI, and other midi devices. I make a dummy chart for the song, sometimes a few pages long if there are multiple patch changes in the song. And I use the blue turn pedal to turn the pages in the chart sending patch changes.

There are several ways u can do this with an iPad or android tablet. Many apps that send midi cc changes with naming ability. Some more difficult learning curve than others, but nonetheless there are many to choose from. Of course you will need a Bluetooth midi device to connect to the FI or a hardwired midi device that connects from your tablet to the FI.

If that doesn’t float your boat and you want something more in pedal form, perhaps what @gastric mentioned would suit you better.
 
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BurningSkies said:
So cheat sheet on stage then?
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maisbass said:
Nope. I was waiting for @Adamixoye to mention about how uses mididesigner to control the FI. Pretty slick what he does.

I’ve said it many times before here. I use my ipad to make patch changes. Basically using unreal book to send midi program changes to FI, and other midi devices. I make a dummy chart for the song, sometimes a few pages long if there are multiple patch changes in the song. And I use the blue turn pedal to turn the pages in the chart sending patch changes.

There are several ways u can do this with an iPad or android tablet. Many apps that send midi cc changes with naming ability. Some more difficult learning curve than others, but nonetheless there are many to choose from. Of course you will need a Bluetooth midi device to connect to the FI or a hardwired midi device that connects from your tablet to the FI.

If that doesn’t float your boat and you want something more in pedal form, perhaps what @gastric mentioned would suit you better.
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maisbass said:
And yes I was serious. Wasn’t poking fun. I think it’s really cool how you use midi designer with the FI. :bassist:
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Thanks. My skepticism/meme was more about whether my rather involved method is appropriate for the question you were answering...

But yeah, I use MIDI Designer on an iPad. It's connected by Bluetooth to my board via a Zivix PUC+. In MD, you can create a "picker" control that is basically a rotating dial with each name labeled. So I do this for lots of my pedals that have presets. And I can dial up any preset in this way, and I see preset names on my iPad. This is rather involved, spendy, and not without other quirks and downsides, but at its best it is extremely powerful and elegant.
 
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