Future Impact now available!! WAS: deep impact reissue!!! interested?

[76jazzbass]

Can't wait to hear a demo!

 

[76jazzbass]

Side note: Anyone hoping for ridiculous prices for their Deep Impact better hurry up and sell....

 

[Red Four]

Wow, sounds great and is awesome that you're bringing it back but frankly, if I may...... you may want to change up the visual element. Sorry to sound shallow but there is surely an element of how a pedal is received based on its looks.

I kind of like this. I like the spacey, somewhat retro look to it, plus it's very clear and easy to read. I'd buy this with no hesitation about its aesthetics.

I think the original Deep Impact was pretty hideous looking - to me, this is a big improvement. (Akai made some very good and interesting pedals, some of which I own, but looks were not their strength.)

 

[kozyko]

Nice! I'm glad you added the MIDI in there. That's basically a must for my current board.

I agree...the MIDI is key for me as well.

 

[Blu bro]

it looks smaller than the original. Which is always a bonus.

 

[Mister_argentum]

This sounds amazing, I really like the retro looks but maybe it is just me! Keep it up with the good work. This pedal is very popular, only three in town where I live, and bass players are always looking for it.

Personally I am not in a hurry, take your time and make it good!

 

[Bass Man 94]

Hello Andras,

I'm in 49th position to buy this new "Future Impact I" and I'm really excited to know that it will be available soon (when ?) !!!

But I agree with Mister_argentum, take your time and make it VERY good


PS: I don't see any option to connect (with a 6.5mm jack) an optional pedal to up/down the presets. Is it expected ?

 

[maisbass]

Dear Friends,


After listening to your comments and opinion from the background I feel now it is time for me to step in and show you the first photos of the device that you are waiting so eagerly. First of all I want to say thank you to all of you who encouraged me to work on this project. I am especially thankful to Simon, who pushed me already long time ago to start this. But the greatest impact (a real “deep impact”) was when last autumn a journalist of the Japanese Bass Magazine approached me for an interview about the history of the Deep Impact, and he explained me that there is a huge second hand market -- with quite crazy prices -- of this device which has disappeared from the market long time ago. I did not want to believe it, I did not know about it until I looked at ebay. So, I understood that there is a real demand for such a product.


I did not have time yet to write a complete description of the Future Impact I., let me just summarize some of the most important facts.

First of all, the hardware and the software of the Future Impact I. does not have the slightest relationship to the hardware and software of the Deep Impact. While the Deep Impact was based on 20th century technology, the Future Impact I. runs on a 21st century processor that performs signal processing operations a hundred times faster than the Deep Impact’s processor, so the capabilities are not comparable. In spite of the huge processing power the device takes only 70 milliamperes from a Roland/Boss type 9V stabilized supply.

While the Deep Impact has 10 presets that are not programmable, just the major parameters can be edited on stage, the Future Impact I. has 100 presets that are fully programmable by the user with a computer editor, and the major parameters of the presets are editable on stage as well.

The first 10 presets of Future Impact are factory programmed to emulate exactly the sounds of the Deep Impact; the other 90 presets open up a new world of possibilities.

Some facts to express the difference:

The DI has 4 sawtooth oscillators, running at 32 kHz (very distorted, greasy sound in higher pitch range); the FI I. has 4 multi-oscillators running at 512 kHz, thus generating extremely clean signals. The oscillators have saw, triangle, and square wave signals that can be mixed arbitrarily for each oscillator individually. The square wave signal has adjustable pulse width. There is a separate LFO for each oscillator to modulate the pulsewidth, generating a warm, lively sound. The saw oscillators have a decay envelope each, so each oscillator can produce an individually changing dynamic waveform. On top of that, a foldover distortion applied on each oscillator separately can produce sounds with incredibly rich overtones.

The filter can be 12 dB/oct or 24 dB/oct and emulates the classic Moog filter.

An effect section will be included (not yet implemented) with all kind of time modulation effects.


I would love to be able to deliver this wonderful device to you tomorrow, but as it is an extremely complex device the development takes very lot of time, especially I have a lot of work yet on the software. I have to ask for your further patience, I believe delivery will be possible in the last quarter of this year. Soon I will be able to make a price calculation and let you know what to expect.


Andras SzalayView attachment 649039 View attachment 649040[/

Dear Friends,


After listening to your comments and opinion from the background I feel now it is time for me to step in and show you the first photos of the device that you are waiting so eagerly. First of all I want to say thank you to all of you who encouraged me to work on this project. I am especially thankful to Simon, who pushed me already long time ago to start this. But the greatest impact (a real “deep impact”) was when last autumn a journalist of the Japanese Bass Magazine approached me for an interview about the history of the Deep Impact, and he explained me that there is a huge second hand market -- with quite crazy prices -- of this device which has disappeared from the market long time ago. I did not want to believe it, I did not know about it until I looked at ebay. So, I understood that there is a real demand for such a product.


I did not have time yet to write a complete description of the Future Impact I., let me just summarize some of the most important facts.

First of all, the hardware and the software of the Future Impact I. does not have the slightest relationship to the hardware and software of the Deep Impact. While the Deep Impact was based on 20th century technology, the Future Impact I. runs on a 21st century processor that performs signal processing operations a hundred times faster than the Deep Impact’s processor, so the capabilities are not comparable. In spite of the huge processing power the device takes only 70 milliamperes from a Roland/Boss type 9V stabilized supply.

While the Deep Impact has 10 presets that are not programmable, just the major parameters can be edited on stage, the Future Impact I. has 100 presets that are fully programmable by the user with a computer editor, and the major parameters of the presets are editable on stage as well.

The first 10 presets of Future Impact are factory programmed to emulate exactly the sounds of the Deep Impact; the other 90 presets open up a new world of possibilities.

Some facts to express the difference:

The DI has 4 sawtooth oscillators, running at 32 kHz (very distorted, greasy sound in higher pitch range); the FI I. has 4 multi-oscillators running at 512 kHz, thus generating extremely clean signals. The oscillators have saw, triangle, and square wave signals that can be mixed arbitrarily for each oscillator individually. The square wave signal has adjustable pulse width. There is a separate LFO for each oscillator to modulate the pulsewidth, generating a warm, lively sound. The saw oscillators have a decay envelope each, so each oscillator can produce an individually changing dynamic waveform. On top of that, a foldover distortion applied on each oscillator separately can produce sounds with incredibly rich overtones.

The filter can be 12 dB/oct or 24 dB/oct and emulates the classic Moog filter.

An effect section will be included (not yet implemented) with all kind of time modulation effects.


I would love to be able to deliver this wonderful device to you tomorrow, but as it is an extremely complex device the development takes very lot of time, especially I have a lot of work yet on the software. I have to ask for your further patience, I believe delivery will be possible in the last quarter of this year. Soon I will be able to make a price calculation and let you know what to expect.


Andras SzalayView attachment 649039 View attachment 649040

Very nice!!!!

 

[Mosfed]

Dear Friends,


After listening to your comments and opinion from the background I feel now it is time for me to step in and show you the first photos of the device that you are waiting so eagerly. First of all I want to say thank you to all of you who encouraged me to work on this project. I am especially thankful to Simon, who pushed me already long time ago to start this. But the greatest impact (a real “deep impact”) was when last autumn a journalist of the Japanese Bass Magazine approached me for an interview about the history of the Deep Impact, and he explained me that there is a huge second hand market -- with quite crazy prices -- of this device which has disappeared from the market long time ago. I did not want to believe it, I did not know about it until I looked at ebay. So, I understood that there is a real demand for such a product.


I did not have time yet to write a complete description of the Future Impact I., let me just summarize some of the most important facts.

First of all, the hardware and the software of the Future Impact I. does not have the slightest relationship to the hardware and software of the Deep Impact. While the Deep Impact was based on 20th century technology, the Future Impact I. runs on a 21st century processor that performs signal processing operations a hundred times faster than the Deep Impact’s processor, so the capabilities are not comparable. In spite of the huge processing power the device takes only 70 milliamperes from a Roland/Boss type 9V stabilized supply.

While the Deep Impact has 10 presets that are not programmable, just the major parameters can be edited on stage, the Future Impact I. has 100 presets that are fully programmable by the user with a computer editor, and the major parameters of the presets are editable on stage as well.

The first 10 presets of Future Impact are factory programmed to emulate exactly the sounds of the Deep Impact; the other 90 presets open up a new world of possibilities.

Some facts to express the difference:

The DI has 4 sawtooth oscillators, running at 32 kHz (very distorted, greasy sound in higher pitch range); the FI I. has 4 multi-oscillators running at 512 kHz, thus generating extremely clean signals. The oscillators have saw, triangle, and square wave signals that can be mixed arbitrarily for each oscillator individually. The square wave signal has adjustable pulse width. There is a separate LFO for each oscillator to modulate the pulsewidth, generating a warm, lively sound. The saw oscillators have a decay envelope each, so each oscillator can produce an individually changing dynamic waveform. On top of that, a foldover distortion applied on each oscillator separately can produce sounds with incredibly rich overtones.

The filter can be 12 dB/oct or 24 dB/oct and emulates the classic Moog filter.

An effect section will be included (not yet implemented) with all kind of time modulation effects.


I would love to be able to deliver this wonderful device to you tomorrow, but as it is an extremely complex device the development takes very lot of time, especially I have a lot of work yet on the software. I have to ask for your further patience, I believe delivery will be possible in the last quarter of this year. Soon I will be able to make a price calculation and let you know what to expect.


Andras SzalayView attachment 649039 View attachment 649040

Very very cool. I am so happy my misgivings have been proven wrong.

 

[Mister_argentum]

Hello Andras,

I'm in 49th position to buy this new "Future Impact I" and I'm really excited to know that it will be available soon (when ?) !!!

But I agree with Mister_argentum, take your time and make it VERY good


PS: I don't see any option to connect (with a 6.5mm jack) an optional pedal to up/down the presets. Is it expected ?

I think you might do so with using the midi in connection, it can be tweaked for changing any parameter.

Best,

M

 

[Ghost_Bass_PT]

I Love the looks, very retro. I'm waiting for sound samples! Just a video for us to hear it, even if it's not the final product

 

[jwr]

I just wanted to say @lokki, I'm sorry I ever doubted you sir.

This is good stuff man and I can't wait!!!

 

[kulit17]

I just wanted to say @lokki, I'm sorry I ever doubted you sir.

This is good stuff man and I can't wait!!!

yes indeed!
@lokki, thanks for starting this thread and getting the attention to Andras. can't wait until becomes a reality!!

hi everybody,

i am in contact with the developer of the deep impact from akai.
i suggested to do a reissue of the legendary pedal, and he is seriously thinking about it if the interest is there.
what he needs is a rough estimate of units that he could sell. so, who is in?

maybe we can even talk about some additional features like more presets...

probably i will start a crowdfunding thingy in the next days, will post back then.

cheers,

lokki

 

[kulit17]

The "list" in this thread was always unofficial, but I have decided to no longer add to it. If someone wants to take it over, it's the first post on the top of page 25.

@Andras Szalay we appreciate you chiming in and giving us details on what to expect and giving us a first glimpse of the prototype - for all, if not most, the reissue is finally looking more like a reality and not a unicorn. Just curious though, will the 'unofficial list' created by a @Adamixoye here be used or put into consideration for the distribution of the first couple batches? or is the rights to reserve one still TBD at this point?

I expect that after your post, more people will chime in to say "I'm in". At the moment, no one is managing the list and i do believe it stopped at #95.

 

[Ghost_Bass_PT]

That list was just for the developer to know about people's interest in this pedal. I really doubt that everybody in that list will buy a unit. I'm on the list and i can say for sure that i'll buy one IF i find the price reasonable and have use for it (after hearing sound samples).

 

[maisbass]

I read somewhere that with all this controversy and fixation on this topic that Steven King will be releasing a new book entitled......... "THE LIST"!!!!
Lmao!

 

[bludog]

Been following since lokki's first post. Very please with the recent update from Andras! This is an exciting development for sure.

FWIW to some of the followup posters... I own 2 DI's and have no plans to sell either for the current high$. There have been too many reissues and reboots over the years that never quite captured the magic of the originals. Plus, I'm VERY comfortable with the old one and that's the most important element for any musician - got to be comfortable with your gear to get the most out of it. Now having said that, I will definitely buy the FI when it's available. It seems like it will be comparable in price to other complex pedals in the current market and although that's on the high side, it seems like it will be worth every cent. Looking forward to more release details, but waiting patiently. Thanks @Andras Szalay & @lokki!!!

 

[kulit17]

That list was just for the developer to know about people's interest in this pedal. I really doubt that everybody in that list will buy a unit. I'm on the list and i can say for sure that i'll buy one IF i find the price reasonable and have use for it (after hearing sound samples).

I know this...it was just a question for the developer. Perhaps most of the people on the list are hoping it's gonna be in the $200 range. Not sure if i missed it, but it seems this will not be a mass produced item with a big company backing him up. So i'm skeptical if this will be the case - since most boutique pedals costs are relatively high comparing similiar Boss, MXR, Tech21, etc equivalents. Personally I wouldn't mind getting it if it was a 1/3 of what the original is going for now. From the sounds of it, it can do more and then some comparing it with the original. Since the ball is already rolled and we do have 'a list', will the developer give first dibs for whoever is on the list, or is 'the list' done since it already served its purpose of getting it developed and when the reissue finally launches, it will it just be a free for a all/first come first serve.

 

[Adamixoye]

My feeling about the "list" is that even if this is a run of only 100 units (as was discussed at some point), I definitely don't think everyone on the list is definitely "in," as many said it was contingent on price, demos, etc. So I would hope that in part due to this thread, he simply chooses to announce any pre-order opportunity here first. If he does that, I think everyone on the "list" who really wants in on the deal will probably have a fair chance at doing so.

Also, I have my own opinion on the price I want to see this at...I'm definitely assuming it will be more than $200, but under half of what the used DIs go for would definitely be nice...

 

[ole Jason]

$200 is completely unrealistic IMO. People like JHS charge $200 for a dinky overdrive with 30 parts and no R&D. The price for this should be closer to things you see offered by Strymon.

I wish we could just forget "the list." It holds no meaning and was never meant as some sort of pre-order reservation guarantee.

Pumped for this!