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Future Impact now available!! WAS: deep impact reissue!!! interested?
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How many times it repeats is what a Delay’s Feedback controls. Usually with Feedback at minimum you get a single repeat, then at max it will often be infinite repeats/oscillation (literal uncontrollable feeding back!). The Delay Feedback Dampening in the Future Impact allows you to push the Feedback without causing uncontrollable oscillation and also helps make the delay repeats more mild with high feedback (it is a low-pass filter in the feedback path, so each repeat gets darker).
A chorus is just a delay effect with very short delay time and low feedback (usually shorter delay than an audible slapback echo, closet tot a doubler type effect) where the delay time is being continuously modulated so the pitch of the delay repeats is moving up and down against the static clean signal blended in
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Just got my VIP and am having a hard time getting the editor to work. I had an old M-Audio Uno MIDI interface in a drawer that I used to connect my VIP to my Mac. The Uno confusingly labels it’s MIDI In as “To MIDI Out,” and it’s MIDI Out as “To MIDI In.” I connected them accordingly but can’t get the editor to talk to the VIP. When I play notes on my bass the signal indicator on the Uno lights up, which makes me think it’s working, though in what capacity I can’t say. Not sure if the VIP does audio to MIDI conversion, but it might make sense since it has to do pitch tracking.
In the Editor software I can select MIDI In and Out that shows up as SE25 1 and SE25 2, or virtual MIDI. No option yields any connectivity. I also swapped the MIDI cables on the VIP to no avail.
I’m sure there’s something obvious I’m missing. Any insights from the community?
In the Editor software I can select MIDI In and Out that shows up as SE25 1 and SE25 2, or virtual MIDI. No option yields any connectivity. I also swapped the MIDI cables on the VIP to no avail.
I’m sure there’s something obvious I’m missing. Any insights from the community?
Are you on Mac? If so, make sure you set up the Midi configuration in the MIDI studio native app and test the connectivity.
I don't get why manufacturers complicate labeling cables where a simple IN and OUT works just fine. May be worth flipping the cables and judt follow the arrows
Good call. Forgot to mention that I am using a Mac. I'll try that.
Agreed. Attempts to remove confusion that add it are frustrating for sure.
As mentioned, I did try that. What I didn't mention was that the signal indicator on the Uno lit up identically regardless which way I plugged its cables into the VIP.
This was the result of checking connectivity on the Uno. It shows that the device is online and that it has one in and one out. Not much else to see that I can tell unless I'm missing something.
In the FIEditor4 application under MIDI Settings I can assign the FI Input Device to SE25 MIDI1, SE25 MIDI2, or virtual input. The FI Output Device does not list SE25 MIDI2 but has the other two options. The manual indicates that both should be connected. What's curious is that if I use either of the SE 25 MIDI1 or 2 options, if I hit Apply or OK and then reopen the settings window it will have reset to off for both input and output devices. If I select virtual input it will retain that setting.
Also curiously, after resetting my computer the Uno signal indicator light will no longer display when sending a signal through the VIP regardless of how the cables are connected. Part of me thinks this ancient Uno is not compatible with the VIP for some reason, but another part of me thinks that MIDI is even more ancient than the Uno and it should work regardless. I'm a bit at a loss at this point. I may just order another interface to see if that does the trick.
Also curiously, after resetting my computer the Uno signal indicator light will no longer display when sending a signal through the VIP regardless of how the cables are connected. Part of me thinks this ancient Uno is not compatible with the VIP for some reason, but another part of me thinks that MIDI is even more ancient than the Uno and it should work regardless. I'm a bit at a loss at this point. I may just order another interface to see if that does the trick.
Yeah I spent a good long weekend trying to make the UM ONE work w/my mac and VIP.
Dont want to assume much but sounds like a routing issue, if the FI Output dropdown can't list your interface but the light is on, might be because it's not communicating through the right channels. To test it (if you haven't already) clicking on these up/down arrows under your device square and see if the interface led light reacts to every click.
And lastly I'd double check if the M Audio driver is still compatible with your Mac OSX 10.xx.
I'd vouch for the Roland UM ONE, if your device turns out being obsolete.
I powered my computer down with the Uno attached, and powered down the VIP. Upon powering everything back up and restarting the Editor application the SE 25 options were replaced with M-Audio Uno MIDI Interface on both the input and output. On top of that the changes actually stuck, and editing works perfectly now. I don't know why two resets were required, but that did the trick. I'll just take the win 
Not sure if you have consulted the manual yet, but it is pretty well put together. Earlier FI versions were pickier about MIDI interfaces, but my understanding is that with the v4 it should work with most. I also took a few times to get it right with my FI v3 years back FWIW, but it's been solid ever since with both the v3 and v4. The v4 does indeed respond to MIDI in (you can play it with a keyboard or other MIDI controller instrument) AND outputs pitch to MIDI as well as CV pitch and gate when triggered from bass or guitar so you can trigger external synths (the CV is faster, though also requires the special breakout cable that Panda MIDI sells).I powered my computer down with the Uno attached, and powered down the VIP. Upon powering everything back up and restarting the Editor application the SE 25 options were replaced with M-Audio Uno MIDI Interface on both the input and output. On top of that the changes actually stuck, and editing works perfectly now. I don't know why two resets were required, but that did the trick. I'll just take the win
has anyone a/b with the mxr bass synth? anyone made any of the patches on the mxr for the FI>?
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Impossible to get hold of one at the moment, otherwise I would have. Two used ones came up for sale the other day and went within minutes, so I missed those.
Some of the patches I’ve already shared years ago are copping the same sounds though.
In my case that did nothing. It was doing it a second time that yielded results. Still unsure why, but I’m not going to question success.
I did, quite thoroughly in fact. No mention of power cycling regarding this issue, let alone two power cycles. Later today I’ll power up the system again and hopefully the changes have stuck.
I suspect that is an issue between the Mac and interface, I have had similar things pop up occasionally with my audio/MIDI interface (Steinberg UR44) which is much older than my Mac and it’s usually also fixed with a reboot or two. Actually come to think of it my newest Mac (from last year) has yet to have any issues with the Steinberg which is a win!I did, quite thoroughly in fact. No mention of power cycling regarding this issue, let alone two power cycles. Later today I’ll power up the system again and hopefully the changes have stuck.
I mostly meant in reference to the MIDI output capabilities of the FI since you asked in a previous post. Unfortunately a lot of folks never RTFM around here!
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It is amazing how many times giving the system the "dreaded finger" will save the day and yet we still have to be reminded, each and every time.
Back in the olden days, we would “Zap the PRAM, rebuild the Desktop, and trash the preferences.” That cured 98% of computer confusion.It is amazing how many times giving the system the "dreaded finger" will save the day and yet we still have to be reminded, each and every time.
Hey all, I’m thinking about getting an FI v4 vip. Is the panda audio website the best/only place to buy it? And do they have them in stock for quick shipment?
