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G&L Club Part 7

When I saw those listings, with the weights all very low and rounded to the nearest half pound, I remembered doing this some time last year when Sweetwater was particularly well stocked with every possible Fallout

.... The Tributes, Poplar and Basswood, occupied the same range of weights as the Alder USAs (8 lbs 2 – 9 lbs 2, iirc)

The lightest Tribute they've got is 8 lbs 4 oz ....
 
Tale of woe.

…It was listed as weighing 7 lbs. It's still shown there on the second page of the basses section of the store. It arrived today and turns out that it's not even close to the listed weight, 8 lbs, 11 oz…

Wow. I would be so angry…

That just seems to be a total disregard for the customer or downright dishonesty. It's not a question of competence, any fool is able to read a scale.

This type of behaviour coupled with a huge price increase doesn't bode well for the company. While this wasn't CS or BTO, it still represents the company.

Imagine if Leo knew…
 
Wonder what the reality is for these three:

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9 lbs 9 oz, 9 lbs 12 oz, and 11 pounds 4 oz? :wacky:

An 8 lbs Tribute LB-100?! Surely the headstocks were leaning on something when all these weights were taken?
 
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I keep reading about the price increase on this thread and how G&L is crazy for doing it. I also read about how BTO takes too long to receive. *start sarcastic tone* I wonder why G&L thinks they can afford a price increase? *end sarcastic tone*

Time will tell, but experience in this thread (and likely their order books) indicates that they will probably be fine after the price increase.

Noting that I do not like the increase either, but it is just part of doing business (particularly with current market conditions).
 
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A big part of the reason I bought an SB-2 a few years ago was that it did not have a tone control. I love the idea that I can get an amazing tone out of a bass with no tone control. It's the only bass I know like that except for Carvin's Timothy B. Schmit model, which I don't think is in production anymore. And I don't think it ever had the tonal quality or versatility of the SB-2. The only thing I found that bothered me was that, when I wanted a tonal change, I got a volume change, and it took some tweaking to get to where I wanted to go. Since I sing a lot, amp adjustments aren't always possible. I solved the situation by putting the individual pickup volumes on a concentric pot and routing them to a master volume. It took some experimenting with various values of pots, but I finally found a (somewhat surprising) combination that keeps the true tone of the SB-2 flowing. Here is a rather crudely drawn wiring diagram of that, for anyone interested.
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Exactly what I did as well. I had found that after settling in with my tone, any changes in volume required me to futz around trying to get back to that spot. I really liked the way that the two pickups interacted with each other to offer so many different tonal variations…I didn't want to "mess" that up by adding a tone pot, so I decided to go with a concentric pot to set the individual pickup volume and then control the whole thing with a master volume. For me, it worked wonderfully.
Kim
 
Well, that was short lived and sorrowful. Brand new Wunkay rod went snap. I wasn't even being slightly aggressive either. Over the years I've had more than one Fender I've gone so far as "You're terminal, just admit it and break already.". And nada, never, and just tossed them. Fortunately the dealer is going to help me get it sorted out with G&L hopefully. It's a great shop and a wonderful owner so I guess now I drive back to Wi and leave it with him. It's like it was glass then sadness.
 
Talking about G&L web store basses....

I also ordered one of their B-Stock Fallout Bass last week and the stated weight is 7.5 lbs. however they are taking forever to ship it, so yesterday I tried all day to talk to someone there to see if they would be shipping sooner or not, but it is just an impossible task. Any extension you dial goes to voice mail.

Their repair customer service is stellar, Memo is just great; but unfortunately I cannot say the same with other services, it has been a frustrating experience so far.

With this weight fiasco, I have now one more reason to cancel the order.
 
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Talking about G&L web store basses....

I also ordered one of their B-Stock Fallout Bass last week and the stated weight is 7.5 lbs. however they are taking forever to ship it

How long has it been and when did you order? I ask because they definitely ship instruments slower than they ship merchandise (based on 2 instrument and 2 merch orders in the past year). I also recall seeing a note that they do not ship instruments at all on Fridays.
 
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I ordered it last Thursday.

I have a good reference on their average shipping time because I also ordered an SB-2 on couple weeks ago on a Friday and with was shipped on the subsequent Monday.
It arrived here Friday. Basically 5 days door to door.

But the Fallout is taking longer for some reason, I was expecting a shipping notice a couple of days ago or at least yesterday, but nothing.

I understand nowadays most things are set to be resolved via emails however it is somehow frustrating when you call a place, and it feels like it is a holiday or so because there is no one to answers the phone.
 
I ordered it last Thursday.

I have a good reference on their average shipping time because I also ordered an SB-2 on couple weeks ago on a Friday and with was shipped on the subsequent Monday.
It arrived here Friday. Basically 5 days door to door.

But the Fallout is taking longer for some reason, I was expecting a shipping notice a couple of days ago or at least yesterday, but nothing.

I understand nowadays most things are set to be resolved via emails however it is somehow frustrating when you call a place, and it feels like it is a holiday or so because there is no one to answers the phone.
Maybe they're taking the week off to celebrate Ground Hog Day?
 
Well, that was short lived and sorrowful. Brand new Wunkay rod went snap. I wasn't even being slightly aggressive either. Over the years I've had more than one Fender I've gone so far as "You're terminal, just admit it and break already.". And nada, never, and just tossed them. Fortunately the dealer is going to help me get it sorted out with G&L hopefully. It's a great shop and a wonderful owner so I guess now I drive back to Wi and leave it with him. It's like it was glass then sadness.
Having owned a couple Steinberger Synapse basses, which have a graphite-lined slot for the truss rod, I've learned that adjusting a truss rod in a graphite-stabilized neck is much less casual than it was previously. It's important to loosen the strings, then bend the neck manually in some way and keep it there while you adjust the truss rod. On the new necks with dual action truss rods, this applies whichever way you need the neck to go. The graphite rod in the USA necks makes the neck much more resistant to truss rod adjustment. If I'm telling you something you already know, just ignore this post, even though it represents a minute you'll never get back.
 
Having owned a couple Steinberger Synapse basses, which have a graphite-lined slot for the truss rod, I've learned that adjusting a truss rod in a graphite-stabilized neck is much less casual than it was previously. It's important to loosen the strings, then bend the neck manually in some way and keep it there while you adjust the truss rod. On the new necks with dual action truss rods, this applies whichever way you need the neck to go. The graphite rod in the USA necks makes the neck much more resistant to truss rod adjustment. If I'm telling you something you already know, just ignore this post, even though it represents a minute you'll never get back.
I think that's a good practice with ANY bass.
 
Nope, but I saw that one. It was already sold, actually a great price.
I ordered this one, Instruments - TRIBUTE FALLOUT BASS
Basically same thing but expensive.

Well that's good because I ordered the black one with scratches last Wed. No email updates yet on mine, either.

Curiously, I ordered a red one from the clearance site the week before and they notified me re shipping the next day. It arrived a few days later. It was supposed to have been reduced even further due to a little paint chip at the neck pocket, as was shown in their pics. However, the one they sent me had no flaws anywhere at all. Clearly it's not the same bass that was shown on the website. Plus, the kicker is that it came with a G&L gig bag (score!). As far as I know, gig bags aren't included with the Tribute Fallouts, even if bought new from a retailer like Sweetwater, but I could be wrong.

I'm not complaining at all though, for the price I paid they can take a month to ship the second one, for all I care!
 
I think that's a good practice with ANY bass.
Exactly right, but how many of us, myself included, have thought, Ah, it just needs a quick little tweak. I don't need to mess with all that time consuming stuff.

Steinberger Synapses are notorious for broken truss rods, but if you adjust it right on it or any other bass, you'll be OK at least 99% of the time. Your advice is sound.

Also, it's a good idea to keep that truss rod lubed. I confess I'm no expert in keeping these dual action truss rods lubed. A friend of mine puts a drop or two of F-One fretboard oil down into the hole. Does anyone else have a procedure for lubricating a dual action truss rod? I'd be interested to know.
 
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