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So I had a buddy go check out the fallout bass yesterday and was very much not happy...that really bummed me out...anyone else try them yet?
I asked him again last night ...he said he played the earnie ball first and it was so much better that the fallout was just a massive let down..hes a guitar player with small hands...a very good guitar player ...good enough that paul Gilbert and Satriani among others have known him by name since since he was 16.
He normally buys the cheapest bass or borrows one of mine...he owns an Ibanez micro and 30 something guitars...
He checked out the G&l based off my sb1 feel and tone and because I couldn't go this year and would not stop begging him.
He liked the ernie ball so much he is ordering one.
He said part of his dislike for the G&l was how the staff treated him at the booth so that's why I was looking for another opinion, I have not had the easiest time trying to work with guitar companies in the past but it does not stop how much I love my sb1....well I guess if I'm totally being honest if someone is rude or disrespectful to me I'm pretty thick skinned.....a bit over protective of my circle though...but I've been paid good money and had experiences that most only get to dream or read about by being overprotective so I don't see that stopping anytime soon.
Thank you for another opinion. Maybe when they come to a place I can try one I'll find out for myself , but the ernie ball and new fenders just moved to the top of my list.
He normally buys the cheapest bass or borrows one of mine...he owns an Ibanez micro and 30 something guitars...
He checked out the G&l based off my sb1 feel and tone and because I couldn't go this year and would not stop begging him.
He liked the ernie ball so much he is ordering one.
He said part of his dislike for the G&l was how the staff treated him at the booth so that's why I was looking for another opinion, I have not had the easiest time trying to work with guitar companies in the past but it does not stop how much I love my sb1....well I guess if I'm totally being honest if someone is rude or disrespectful to me I'm pretty thick skinned.....a bit over protective of my circle though...but I've been paid good money and had experiences that most only get to dream or read about by being overprotective so I don't see that stopping anytime soon.
Thank you for another opinion. Maybe when they come to a place I can try one I'll find out for myself , but the ernie ball and new fenders just moved to the top of my list.
Interesting. Not to defend G&L staff, but we all have bad days now and then. I would certainly keep an open mind if/when you try one out. I have not played the Stingray, but the new short scale in Starry Night looks great. Plus, you get a case vs a gig bag to make the higher price a bit more tolerable. Had that been available, I would have at least checked it out. For me, the build quality/feel is on par with my other G&L. Tone is in the ear of the beholder, but I am more than happy with it.
If anyone is looking for some aftermarket humcancelling pickups for their JB-5, I have a set of Aguilar 5J-HC/CL pickups for sale. The pickups have the correct pole spacing (same as the G&L single coils), but the Aguilar covers are a different size, so you'd have to put the actual pickups inside the G&L covers (that's what I did). Only selling because I sold the JB-5.
For Sale - Aguilar 5J-HC/CL Pickups
For Sale - Aguilar 5J-HC/CL Pickups
Just some extra insight on the NAMM experience, and a few things to consider:
- NAMM isn't there for people to try out instruments, it exists primarily for manufacturers to sell orders to music stores and distributors. NAMM is a business event for everyone who has a booth, and they are expeeeensive booths. There are business folks at the booths who absolutely rue the idea that anyone who isn't a volume buyer or potential high end endorsee, is at the show at all.
- Day 3 of the show is day 5 of long days, and some evenings, and stress for the staff that work NAMM.
- It depends a lot on which staff members you talk to, I can think of a couple of folks at the G&L booth I'd talk to, of course starting with my buddy Steve. I can think of a couple I'd only say a quick hello to. See #1 above.
- A couple of years ago I went to the Rickenbacker booth, talked to two staff members together side by side. One was cool and helpful. The other, well, not so much. See 1 & 3 above.
- Played at NAMM about 5 years in a row, each on Saturday of the show. It was amazing to see the increase of people on Saturday each year, from packed, to mad house, to way beyond reasonable. That was several years back, now when I go I only go on Thursday and Sunday (that's the day to try for a deal, BTW). Fridays have turned into the Saturdays of yore, and Saturdays are insanity. Point being, the guys in the booth still have to be there, and get bombarded endlessly on the busy days.
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These are KILLER.
Why they stopped making that bass, and those pickups, (and the el toro) is beyond me.
@Remoman
I'm not going to get in an argument with you about what is proper common courtesy for a company that's trying to sell a product or not. Or who was at namm on what day for what reason or who's been going longer in what professional capacity.
Everyone is on a different path in life whatever yours is I wish you well on it.
Here is buddies take on actually playing it:
So here are some of the aspects I didn't like:
1. Neck was subpar- very thick. Not something you want from a short scale.
2. Playability was mediocre. Reverend played way better.
3. Unbalanced weight and very clumsy. Felt unnatural to play.
4. Definitely not worth the money vs. a foreign made short scale - reverend, fender, Ibanez.
5.)Oh - and the fret spacing! I don't know how that was made a short scale.
Again his body and what feels correct to him may not be what feels or sounds correct to others so I was just trying to gather others opinions but after your write up I realize that may have came across as just some who got hurt feelings on the first day of namm.
And again this is from a professional musician with decades of experience under his belt, a guitar player who because of my 94 sb1 was waiting months in anticipation to try the fallout.
I'm not going to get in an argument with you about what is proper common courtesy for a company that's trying to sell a product or not. Or who was at namm on what day for what reason or who's been going longer in what professional capacity.
Everyone is on a different path in life whatever yours is I wish you well on it.
Here is buddies take on actually playing it:
So here are some of the aspects I didn't like:
1. Neck was subpar- very thick. Not something you want from a short scale.
2. Playability was mediocre. Reverend played way better.
3. Unbalanced weight and very clumsy. Felt unnatural to play.
4. Definitely not worth the money vs. a foreign made short scale - reverend, fender, Ibanez.
5.)Oh - and the fret spacing! I don't know how that was made a short scale.
Again his body and what feels correct to him may not be what feels or sounds correct to others so I was just trying to gather others opinions but after your write up I realize that may have came across as just some who got hurt feelings on the first day of namm.
And again this is from a professional musician with decades of experience under his belt, a guitar player who because of my 94 sb1 was waiting months in anticipation to try the fallout.
Agreed. Those two should of been at the top of the CLF list. Actually the 1st gen singles should be re-issued in the Lynx body since it has contours.
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Love my 83 SB1.
El Toro and the Interceptor were quite special.
El Toro and the Interceptor were quite special.
I picked up a G&L Tribute M2000 GTS. Love the bass and all but tbh I'm a little confused. I was expecting a quasi boat anchor based on some of the posts about the bass, I think one mentioned it was close to 10lbs for the 4 string version, but in truth, this is one the lightest basses I currently have. Just weighed it and it's just a little over 8lb.
I'm not complaining mind you, but do they really vary that much in weight? I know wood varies in weight, but for others who have the same bass, how much does yours weigh?
I'm not complaining mind you, but do they really vary that much in weight? I know wood varies in weight, but for others who have the same bass, how much does yours weigh?
Pretty sure it is mahogany. Mine feels quite light weight as well. No idea what exactly since I do not have a bathroom scale or anything. I am not too worried about how much things or people weigh...Empress or Basswood perhaps...?
Supposed to have a carved mahogany body which is fairly light but not this light. Wonder if they did use a different wood on this thing. I feel gipped. lol I owned a Tribute L2000 not too long ago which did feel around 9-10 lbs but that thing was made of swamp ash. Ultimately, it was the weight and width of the stock neck on that Tribute that made me trade it for another bass.Empress or Basswood perhaps...?
Just puzzled because I had read up on this particular M2000 GTS before I got it and quite a number of posts made mention of the weight of the bass. Again not complaining, in fact happy as a clam that it's light just curious if earlier ones were possibly heavier.
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