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G&L L-2500 bridge mod

StuartV

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The original version of this is here:

http://www.bassesbyleo.com/l2500_bridge_mod.html

I made this modification to my L-2500 over the weekend and wanted to pass along a few things I learned.

1) I used 2" long 6-32 machine screws and did not have to trim them at all. The original link (above) says he ended up with screws that were 1 9/16". I figured that meant I could use 1 1/2", as that would only be 1/16" shorter. Well, 1 1/2" screws didn't even touch the back of the 1/4" threaded spacers. I bought 2" thinking they would be overkill and I'd just trim to length. But, as I said, there turned out to be no need.

2) It took me a long time to get this mod done because I first spent a bunch of time trying to find threaded spacers that were already slotted for a screwdriver, and couldn't. So I procrastinated even longer because I was without an air compressor to run my air cutoff tool, and I didn't have a Dremel tool. I finally ordered the threaded spacers from McMaster-Carr and bought a Dremel and slotted the spacers. I thought I would need the "Thin" cutting wheels, but they made slots that were too thin. I used the regular Dremel cutting wheel and the slots are the perfect size for a medium-sized slotted screwdriver.

3) When I finally assembled it all, it turns out I don't think I needed to slot the spacers at all. I put each one in and held it with my fingertip as I screwed the screw in. Once it started to get tight, the spacer got enough friction from its seat that I was able to tighten the screw firmly without having to hold the spacer with a slotted screwdriver.

All just FYI.

Also, FWIW, I recently took the bridge off my G&L SB-2 (a 4-string bass) and put it back on and I noted to myself that it actually uses something like 6 screws to hold it on. It has the same style of bridge as the L-2500, but it does not allow for thru-body stringing, and it has screws through the bridge into the body in all the same spots where I just put machine screws through the L-2500 bridge.

I just thought it was kinda funny that G&L would think it necessary to use so many screws to hold a 4-string bridge on and then only use 2 on a bridge that does allow top-loading on a 5-string. I wonder if some designer actually planned that users would do this mod if they intended to top load their strings.

Oh, and I got it restrung and set the intonation - it was way off with TI flats from where it had been setup with Dunlop rounds. But, I have not actually played it yet, so I cannot coment on whether this mod makes any difference to tone or sustain.

And here are some pics of the final product.

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I did this recently as well on a 2004 tribute l2500 I picked up cheap. On mine the 2" screws were too long, they poked out the back, the 1 1/2" screws just barely touched the spacer, but I made them work by beveling the spacers with a file to make them sit deeper and got them to screw down fine without slotting them. Is yours USA model?
 
Yes, mine is a U.S.. I believe it was made right around 1998. Just shortly after they changed from the 3-bolt to the 6-bolt neck. And I guess, now that I think about it, the body on mine must be right at 2" thick. No wonder it weighs 10.5#!
 
looking at another l2500 for the stable, already have a tribute one

my tribute doesn't have string through

the usa l2500 I am looking at does---if I just string through body is this something I wouldn't need to worry about? also, if I did string through body--what limitations of strings would there be?
 
I did the same this weekend. I tried 2 inch screws and they were too long. I found 1.75 screws and they're a little short but have about 98% engagement with the nut so I used them. I did not alter the nut in any way. Friction from your finger and the final positioning will hold it in place. I did clean up the holes with a "bump" from a 5/64 drill bit before inserting the screws. Yeah it looks better than 5 holes staring back at me.
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Yes, mine is a U.S.. I believe it was made right around 1998. Just shortly after they changed from the 3-bolt to the 6-bolt neck.
FWIW, the L2500 never had a 3-bolt neck attachment. 3rd quarter 1996 was the introduction of the L2500 (at least earliest examples I’ve seen of date stamps were May 1996), and all had 6-bolt neck attachment, albeit with a neck plate. Mid 1997 had some aesthetic changes (headstock & body) but still had the neck plate. I think 1998 was the first year with no neck plate and countersunk neck screws into the body.


I just thought it was kinda funny that G&L would think it necessary to use so many screws to hold a 4-string bridge on and then only use 2 on a bridge that does allow top-loading on a 5-string. I wonder if some designer actually planned that users would do this mod if they intended to top load their strings.
I think it was kind of an oversight. They probably planned on everyone stringing through the body and overlooked the fact that 2 screws held the bridge on otherwise. I highly doubt anyone planned on this mod.


the usa l2500 I am looking at does---if I just string through body is this something I wouldn't need to worry about? also, if I did string through body--what limitations of strings would there be?
If you string through the body, you will be fine, no need to worry.
You shouldn’t have any limitations on strings…G&L has been unsung D’Addario XL nickels for years, I don’t think any 34” string would be any different. I think there is an issue when you get into 35”, you need to get extra long strings…
 
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Yes, mine is a U.S.. I believe it was made right around 1998. Just shortly after they changed from the 3-bolt to the 6-bolt neck. And I guess, now that I think about it, the body on mine must be right at 2" thick. No wonder it weighs 10.5#!
Here is an early example of a late-‘97/early-‘98 L2500 with 3+2 headstock, neck plate, and string-through-body bridge. These also had bird’s eye necks (from what I’ve seen)

G&L L-2500 USA 5 String Bass '97/98 translucent blue & Stunning Birds Eye Maple | Reverb
 
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Just a question for y’all.
Why did you do this mod?
You now can’t do string though.
Why not just string through?
Sorry two questions
I’ve been playing G&L since 1986 and my 97 fretless with a 4-1 headstock has screws in all the holes instead of string through
Just wondering
Thanks
Duke
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Here is an early example of a late-‘97/early-‘98 L2500 with 3+2 headstock, neck plate, and string-through-body bridge. These also had bird’s eye necks (from what I’ve seen)
G&L L-2500 USA 5 String Bass '97/98 translucent blue & Stunning Birds Eye Maple | Reverb

Beautiful!

It is a standard L-2500, that has an arm contour, no body binding and no book-matched ash top over alder body (it's solid ash or alder body), three features that make it different from a 'L-2500 Custom' of the same era or slightly earlier.
Same as this earlier one (a 1996, with a black crinkle neck plate, a top-string-only bridge, and a 4+1 headstock):

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Just a question for y’all.
Why did you do this mod?
You now can’t do string though.
Why not just string through?
Sorry two questions
I’ve been playing G&L since 1986 and my 97 fretless with a 4-1 headstock has screws in all the holes instead of string through
Just wondering
Thanks
Duke
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I did it on my Sire MM P-5 because:
1) I changed the bridge to an Hipshot style A that has a different design compared to the original Sire bridge
2) I could not line up the string holes in the Hipshot bridge with the body holes without moving it much forward
3) I did want to make it reversible, i.e. without drilling additional screw holes in the body
4) Many argue that thru-body stringing causes too much stress on strings (with two sharp angles), particularly on the B-string, with negative impact on resonance and sustain. Not proven, either way.

I own or had owned six G&L USA basses, only one (M-2500, 2013) was with a string-thru-body bridge...
 
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I did it on my Sire MM P-5 because:
1) I changed the bridge to an Hipshot style A that has a different design compared to the original Sire bridge
2) I could not line up the string holes in the Hipshot bridge with the body holes without moving it much forward
3) I did want to make it reversible, i.e. without drilling additional screw holes in the body
4) Many argue that thru-body stringing causes too much stress on strings (with two sharp angles), particularly on the B-string, with negative impact on resonance and sustain. Not proven, either way.
Thanks
I did not know why, so now I know.
I learned something new this day!
Be well my friend
Duke
 
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I asked my question for the serial number because of a similar bass on the G&L Registry with number CL09174 (L-2500, green swirl, fretless, Ebony FB, 1998???). Just being curious… ´cause it’s a quite rare model with these options.
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B000578: Surrounding serial numbers for L-2500 (4+1 headstock + 6-bolt black crinkle neck plate) suggest March thru June 1996, as an overall trend.
 
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I asked my question for the serial number because of a similar bass on the G&L Registry with number CL09174 (L-2500, green swirl, fretless, Ebony FB, 1998???). Just being curious… ´cause it’s a quite rare model with these options.
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B000578: Surrounding serial numbers for L-2500 (4+1 headstock + 6-bolt black crinkle neck plate) suggest March thru June 1996, as an overall trend.
I purchased mine from the original owner in Indiana, who told me he purchased it new in Chicago in December of 1997.
So I guess there were two or more built like this, not just the one I have.
Also just because the registry only list one, maybe my guy never registered the one I have
Duke
 
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I have three 4-1 headstock and the black crinkle neck plate. So is mine a 1996 model?
The original owner told me it was a 1997?
Thanks
Duke
You’d have to take the neck off to be sure, there is a date stamp on both the neck heel and body. Usually the two date stamps would be within a month of each other. Mine are June & August of ‘96.
Yours could be a ‘97, G&L made the aesthetic changes mentioned in mid-late ‘97.
Though I must point out that Serial number didn’t really mean anything as far as date codes go. At G&L, they literally had a box full of numbered plates, and they just reached in and grabbed one when they needed it.

I’ve seen that Leo had a notebook with every single serial number written by hand along with model, options, and where it was sent from the factory.
I wonder if G&L continued that process after Leo passed. It would be cool if these basses were somehow listed like that. By 1996, 1997, do you think they would have entered the numbers into a computer spreadsheet…and probably gone forever because the floppy disk would have deteriorated by now…?
 

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