Stating the obvious perhaps: Easier for me to turn down bright than turn it up when it is not there
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STREAMLINER & GK NEO 115 stack GIG REVIEW !
A Fantastic pairing !
I ended up messing around with the pair at home for a hour before getting to the gig. I haven't run this stack at a gig... ever in favor of the wireless & Shuttlemax 9.2 combo as I end up being the soundman. I ended up finding 3 settings I liked with these cabs. 1) Bass at 10 Mids at 2 Freq at 220 treble at 2... Overall warm but still with a strong round mid punch to hear fills 2) Bass at 9 Mids at 3 Freq at 600 treble at 2... Clarity without losing the volume during fills 3) Bass at 1 Mids at 10 Freq at 600 Treble at noon... Pure warmth. ALL GAIN OUT. Those 3 settings allowed me to cover the tone of the artists for most covers we are playing
At the gig... I ended up just using setting 1 all night. POST EQ for soundman so I didn't want to screw him up. The tone was AWESOME. I was really surprised at the tone... it was warm, thick, punchy while still clear & present in the mix. My fills I heard very well. The trick is cutting the bass & raising the Mids at that 220 freq. It really cuts the super bass this Streamliner puts out. Since the Streamliner puts out very little treble glass I put the tweeter up to normal vs 9 oclock with the Shuttlemax 9.2. Even a cranked treble doesn't get you sharp treble but still present round upper notes.
The GK NEO 115 handles all this Streamliner warmth perfectly.... basically because its the opposite. The 15 inch GK has LESS low warmth than the 12s. MORE grindy Mids than the 12s. PROOF that speaker size & tone assumptions are wrong. I love how the GK NEOs tighten up the overly warm Streamliner & add mids to where the Streamliner is missing mid grind. I was still able to get a clear & punchy tone due to the GK NEOs 115s
I've tried to pair a Streamliner & an Epifani 310 UL which is a cab with big lows & little mids. What an AWFUL combo that was & totally ungiggable. Sounded good with my Shuttlemax 9.2. Same for the combo of my GK NEO 115s & GK MB500. Two aggressive pieces yield a crazy aggressive tone thats hard to tame. Cool if thats what you're shooting for but a versatile tone for many covers... not so much.
So if you have a muddy warm amp & want to clear it up.. grab some GK NEO 115s
If you have aggressive grindy cabs & want to warm it up.. grab a Streamliner
Enjoy!
A Fantastic pairing !
I ended up messing around with the pair at home for a hour before getting to the gig. I haven't run this stack at a gig... ever in favor of the wireless & Shuttlemax 9.2 combo as I end up being the soundman. I ended up finding 3 settings I liked with these cabs. 1) Bass at 10 Mids at 2 Freq at 220 treble at 2... Overall warm but still with a strong round mid punch to hear fills 2) Bass at 9 Mids at 3 Freq at 600 treble at 2... Clarity without losing the volume during fills 3) Bass at 1 Mids at 10 Freq at 600 Treble at noon... Pure warmth. ALL GAIN OUT. Those 3 settings allowed me to cover the tone of the artists for most covers we are playing
At the gig... I ended up just using setting 1 all night. POST EQ for soundman so I didn't want to screw him up. The tone was AWESOME. I was really surprised at the tone... it was warm, thick, punchy while still clear & present in the mix. My fills I heard very well. The trick is cutting the bass & raising the Mids at that 220 freq. It really cuts the super bass this Streamliner puts out. Since the Streamliner puts out very little treble glass I put the tweeter up to normal vs 9 oclock with the Shuttlemax 9.2. Even a cranked treble doesn't get you sharp treble but still present round upper notes.
The GK NEO 115 handles all this Streamliner warmth perfectly.... basically because its the opposite. The 15 inch GK has LESS low warmth than the 12s. MORE grindy Mids than the 12s. PROOF that speaker size & tone assumptions are wrong. I love how the GK NEOs tighten up the overly warm Streamliner & add mids to where the Streamliner is missing mid grind. I was still able to get a clear & punchy tone due to the GK NEOs 115s
I've tried to pair a Streamliner & an Epifani 310 UL which is a cab with big lows & little mids. What an AWFUL combo that was & totally ungiggable. Sounded good with my Shuttlemax 9.2. Same for the combo of my GK NEO 115s & GK MB500. Two aggressive pieces yield a crazy aggressive tone thats hard to tame. Cool if thats what you're shooting for but a versatile tone for many covers... not so much.
So if you have a muddy warm amp & want to clear it up.. grab some GK NEO 115s
If you have aggressive grindy cabs & want to warm it up.. grab a Streamliner
Enjoy!
KJung always talked about yin and yang when pairing cabs and heads, particularly with the Streamliner. Makes perfect sense.
It's why I love the MB heads with my AudioKinesis Thunderchild. Crystal clarity meets the ultimate in smooth...
Not really. Thermal ratings are pretty useless in the real world. Unless it's a massive, pro level sub it won't keep up with a good 410. Not by a long shot.
My second NEO 212 arrived today,.......Holy Schnikes!!!! This rig sounds HUGE!!!! MB800 Fusion up top,.....With the volume at 9:00 o'clock I was afraid of causing serious structural damage to the house. Can't believe how light and portable this rig is compared to my old Bag End stack. Besides the weight advantage, the sheer volume of this rig leaves the BE rig a pretty distant second. Consider me a GK believer!
I'm going to have to make it out to see this rig in action! I have the NEO 410 that I pair with an AG 500 and it can be brutal.
Did a last minute, fill in/sub gig last night. Just one set for a blues society benefit. Backline was provided, an Ampeg fridge cab and a SWR 550 head. I had my NEO 212 and MB800 Fusion in the truck, since I had just finished another earlier gig.
Let me just say, there was NO comparison between the two amps. I had to really crank the swr to just get a passable stage volume, and the tone was very so so'ish. I think I just invented a new word there.
On sheer volume alone, my GK rig mopped the floor with the huge Ampeg/swr. AS far as tone, once again, no comparison. I was kicking myself for not having drug the GK rig and running through it. I was extremely tired though, having just finished a 4 hour outdoors gig, plus having some minor surgery done on Thursday. I was told it sounded great @ FOH though, so it was all fine in the end.
Next time, I'll stick with my own rig. I guess I've become an official GK fanboy. Do I get a GK hat or tee shirt or something for that status?????
Let me just say, there was NO comparison between the two amps. I had to really crank the swr to just get a passable stage volume, and the tone was very so so'ish. I think I just invented a new word there.
On sheer volume alone, my GK rig mopped the floor with the huge Ampeg/swr. AS far as tone, once again, no comparison. I was kicking myself for not having drug the GK rig and running through it. I was extremely tired though, having just finished a 4 hour outdoors gig, plus having some minor surgery done on Thursday. I was told it sounded great @ FOH though, so it was all fine in the end.
Next time, I'll stick with my own rig. I guess I've become an official GK fanboy. Do I get a GK hat or tee shirt or something for that status?????
Hey Ransom! I rarely use both 2X12's, the single 212 is really enough for almost any gig. Played outdoors yesterday and the single box was just fine by itself. It's a beast!!!
Hey Ransom! I rarely use both 2X12's, the single 212 is really enough for almost any gig. Played outdoors yesterday and the single box was just fine by itself. It's a beast!!!
Where did you play the outdoor gig? I haven't had the pleasure of hearing you throw down in a while.
Here's a pic of my GK gear. I have a 115 MBP on the way this week.
The pic with me in it shows the GK NEO 410 w/ the Aguilar AG 500.
Hey buddy. I played Smokies BBQ yesterday in east BA for a BBQ and Blues deal. May turn into a regular Saturday afternoon thing, we'll see. Nice folks and pretty killer Q !!! I need to hear you play again sometime soon too. Always enjoy your lines!
My MBF800 has finally arrived (after missing the gig).
I can plug it in to a cab until the next gig on the 1st Aug so ill just be using headphones to get a feel for it.
First impressions are its fantastic. Better than i thought it would be. Smaller and more sturdy. I see what others are saying about the looser knobs. I cant see that its ever going to be a problem for me. Im a bit concerned about the switches on the rear getting broken, but that would only happen if i put the amp in the bag face up. I guess putting it on its side will work better.
Its a shame the DI cant be used with the channel switching, i guess ill have to use a jack to XLR lead again.
I can plug it in to a cab until the next gig on the 1st Aug so ill just be using headphones to get a feel for it.
First impressions are its fantastic. Better than i thought it would be. Smaller and more sturdy. I see what others are saying about the looser knobs. I cant see that its ever going to be a problem for me. Im a bit concerned about the switches on the rear getting broken, but that would only happen if i put the amp in the bag face up. I guess putting it on its side will work better.
Its a shame the DI cant be used with the channel switching, i guess ill have to use a jack to XLR lead again.
Guys, can i just ask your opinion on how well the front panel has been put on.
By this i mean is there any slight bubbling under the edges of the screen printed panel.
It looks pretty shoddy to me, although i realise its only cosmetic.
EDIT. Actually i can see a few scratches/marks around the base of one of the silver rack handles on the front. Definitely too shoddy to keep. Hopefully i can get another sorted quickly.
By this i mean is there any slight bubbling under the edges of the screen printed panel.
It looks pretty shoddy to me, although i realise its only cosmetic.
EDIT. Actually i can see a few scratches/marks around the base of one of the silver rack handles on the front. Definitely too shoddy to keep. Hopefully i can get another sorted quickly.
Right. amp went back today, hopefully the new one will be here in a couple of weeks.
Im surprised this amp was let out of the factory in this state, unless this is normal.
Im surprised this amp was let out of the factory in this state, unless this is normal.
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Picked up my Fusion 550 today. My first impressions of this amp: HOLY FREAKIN CRAP!! 
Received my MBP115 today here at work. I can't wait to give it a good workout tonight. I plan on gigging it on Saturday too. Hopefully it holds up to the volume levels that I'm used to.
Hey Ransom! I rarely use both 2X12's, the single 212 is really enough for almost any gig. Played outdoors yesterday and the single box was just fine by itself. It's a beast!!!
That's encouraging. I'm considering the 212 to add to an old Ampeg svt15e cab I have, particularly for outdoor gigs. I usually pair a small SVT210AV with the 15 for outdoors (running the 500w MBFusion), and it sounds great, but I definitely started hitting a volume wall at a recent larger gig outside. Other people in the band were asking me to turn up, but I just felt like I couldn't. I usually have PA support everywhere I play, but I've started picking up gigs with a couple of bands that's putting me in new situations. I've been watching for a used Ampeg 810, but the Neo 212 has been catching my eye and would probably go okay with a 15. Not sure it would be as beast with my 500 watter, though.
Anybody know how to remove the grille on the latest MB cabs? I want to take some internal measurements of my MB110 combo, and I can't figure out how the grille attachment works.
The cloth grille is very tight in its surround, seemingly too tight to be able to lever it out from the front..
There are little access holes at the sides and underneath (covered by plastic plugs on the sides), but I'm not sure what they are for. They pass right through the wall of the cabinet, and I don't see how you could apply enough leverage through them to pop velcro loose...
The cloth grille is very tight in its surround, seemingly too tight to be able to lever it out from the front..
There are little access holes at the sides and underneath (covered by plastic plugs on the sides), but I'm not sure what they are for. They pass right through the wall of the cabinet, and I don't see how you could apply enough leverage through them to pop velcro loose...
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You have to remove those plugs on the side of the cabinet to access the screws that are holding the grill frame in place, there's no Velcro. This is what G-K support told me when I contacted them asking how to remove the grill on my MB410-II & MBP-410-II.
TD
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Hey fellow GK'rs, not sure if any of you have seen this yet, but I found it on GK's FB page. This looks total boss.
Dig it!!!
Dig it!!!
