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Double Bass Gallien-Krueger

#41
shoreacres29 said:
yeah and i'd be shlepping an electric as well. alright.... so - i'm thinking out loud and wanna make a flippin decision! the 500 RB is comparable to the MBE combo that i've tried out. but gives more versatility right? so the bergantino - i can't locate this big price i'm scared of - ballpark of it's cost?
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Shoreacers,
Well I'd always tell some one to try before you buy. Bass Central
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed] lists the 210 on their website. It's not cheap. The cost of the AE and A MB2 500 would be in the @ $1,400.00. So you should definitely try this rig with your bass, pickup, and electric to see if it works for you. Try before you buy

Ric
 
#42
I can't believe no one has said this yet and if I missed it and am repeating someone, I apologize.

First of all, I own a MB150 combo. I also have a EA Wizzy Combo and in past have owned and RB400 head, with a few different cabs (including the MBX), an Eden head, Ashdown and other stuff that I may not even remember at the moment. I used to double on gigs (EBG and DB), but now it's 1 EBG gig out of 99 DB gigs and no switching back and forth on the same gig.

Now, all that out of the way. The MB150 is made for double bass and works quite well, although it does have some limitations and some people don't like them for personal sonic reasons. There are alternatives now in that weight/power/function range that didn't used to exist and it's valid to "prefer" the GK vs something else or not.

There's nothing wrong with plugging an elecric bass into a MB150 and I do it more often than not. I would not suggest this for playing electric bass with a band on stage or outdoors or anything bigger than say a coffee house gig that required climbing several flights of stairs. It's just not what it's for, no matter what ext cabinet you use.

I don't think the other GK heads are voiced or impediance matched as well for doublebass. So in other words, don't let the fact that a lot of DB'ists use the GK MB150 goad you into thinking the GK700whatever will be any better than another brand would be.

For people who truely double, the Mark Bass and Euphonic Audio are generally better respected and with the money you're talking about spending, you could get a good set up there.

Take it for what it's worth, I hope it helps.
 
#43
Alright fellas just throwin out that I've made some preliminary purchases. I got the GK MB2-500 amp, and a GK112MBX to match up to it. I feel good about this handling smaller gigs and practices, etc. Now to find something for the larger/outdoor venues. Maybe the wizzy m-line cab, or a Neo212 or something. At least I've made progress haha!

Also trying to find the a good case/bag for that amp - RMC audiodirect sellls a GK amp head bag but the unfortunately the MB2-500 head isn't listed as being compatible.

Also interested in the David Gage Realist pickup if anyone has a favorite place to buy. I've been searching for one with free shipping, but no luck yet.
 
#45
I have the GK bag for my MB150 combo...if there was another option, you should consider it. It's sturdy and has plenty of room for the combo and cords, it lacks a grab handle and hoisting it up by the shoulder strap is a hassle...to stick 25+ lbs on the shoulder in one move.
 
#48
shoreacres29 said:
Alright fellas just throwin out that I've made some preliminary purchases. I got the GK MB2-500 amp, and a GK112MBX to match up to it. I feel good about this handling smaller gigs and practices, etc.
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Shoreacres,
I think you have the makings of a very nice rig. Deciding on that
second cabinet will take a little thought. The Berg 112 would work for most gigs except the really large venues. If you are just playing the DB then I'd figure out some way to sent the signal to the house. That way you don't have to mess with heavy, bigger, and potentially more feed back prone cabinets. I have one cabinet for small gigs and one for larger concerts.

shoreacres29 said:
Also interested in the David Gage Realist pickup if anyone has a favorite place to buy. I've been searching for one with free shipping, but no luck yet.
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Unless you do a lot of bowing, then the Realist may not be the best choice. I use one it's a great low to medium volume pickup, but I've never had great results with the sound through the amp onstage at higher volumes. The Realist really has a old school sound that I prefer, but a Full Circle may be a better overall choice with the Pro Platinum EQ you can send the signal directly to the house.


Ric
 
#49
For my MB150E combo, I use a cart called a "pack n roll" that cost somewhere around $15 at an office supply store. It easily holds the combo plus all of my cords and everything else. I simply plop the whole thing in my car.
 
#50
fDeck thanks for the suggestion on the cart. I'll check that out. I've seen those padded case at Guitar Center and other places like that. I'd like to think I could find one to lay the amp head in, and some cords around it.

Ric - good stuff on the pickup. The thing is... I already bought the David Gage Realist. So.... I liked it a lot when I tried it out, but will confess I didn't either a) try it out at loud volumes, or b) try any other pickup. I was pretty much instantly in love with it. So.... I'll give it a shot, but will standby with the Full Circle or others.

To extend this thread further with anyone still interested - here's another thing to discuss? The amp head I got has a "tuner out." How do people utilize this? Favorite tuner? Or do you guys prefer to just tune to a direct device and not use the out?

Thx
 
#52
People might not see your latest question(s), just due to the title of your thread. So you might could try a search. Click Search on the blue toolbar up above. Then pick Advanced Search. Enter keyword 'tuner', select 'Search titles only', then highlight this forum in the bottom right hand box. Six threads out there already, lots of good info.

I've never messed with a tuner out or tuner out of the effects send. Just plug my cable from the pickup into a Korg GT-12 during setup. Might retune on a break if something sounds off. And it's not always me that's off. ;)
 
#54
shoreacres29 said:
Just updating, which goes along the lines of another thread. I'm sending back the Realist. Am loving the Full Circle pickup.

Still curious about peoples thoughts about tuners and "tuner-outs."
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Shoreaceres
Well, I only use a "tuner" on the Lakland 5 string electric. I've always had better luck tuning to either the piano, or guitar, even if they are slightly out of tune (that is relative to a fixed A 440) Unless you are playing solo then you really need to tune to the instrument that's providing the chords. Even in a trio with only a tenor sax and drums I generally tune to the tenor's A. Tuning to a fixed a from at tuner and ignoring the Piano or Guitar just doesn't work.

Ric
 
#55
Well said Ric. I usually check the piano w/ my tuner and the built-in mic, see how far off it is (if at all), and then use that as my "440" even if it's not. But you're right.

Even then, pianos are not always in tune with themselves. Oh well. Make the best sound you can.
 
#58
It really depends on the piano. Often it is better to have a good centered pitch if the piano is all over the place. I always have a tuner in my bag just in case the piano sucks.

As far as guitar... I'm not sure I can think of a guitar player that doesn't tune to an electronic tuner.

Ric Vice said:
Shoreaceres
Well, I only use a "tuner" on the Lakland 5 string electric. I've always had better luck tuning to either the piano, or guitar, even if they are slightly out of tune (that is relative to a fixed A 440) Unless you are playing solo then you really need to tune to the instrument that's providing the chords. Even in a trio with only a tenor sax and drums I generally tune to the tenor's A. Tuning to a fixed a from at tuner and ignoring the Piano or Guitar just doesn't work.

Ric
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#59
Good discussion fellas thanks. Yeah I'm starting to play in this group now that has keys and we had our second practice last night and realized my question about a tuner was moot since I had to tune to the "A" on the piano.

I'll certainly keep an electronic tuner in my case for the EB and other necessities.
 
#60
fingers said:
It really depends on the piano. Often it is better to have a good centered pitch if the piano is all over the place. I always have a tuner in my bag just in case the piano sucks.

As far as guitar... I'm not sure I can think of a guitar player that doesn't tune to an electronic tuner.
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Let me clarify a just a little. In most cases the guitar player has their own electronic tuner. So I defer to them for the pitch rather than use my own seperate tuner. As far as pianos go, well it's a rather dicey propositon. I'm usually in a situation where the piano is tuned at least on a semi regular basis, so I don't use a electronic tuner on most of the regular gigs I play. If the piano really sucks then I tune to the A that's stored in my head, I have really good relative pitch. It's only been a problem once in the last ........ years when they moved a piano stored in the alley behind a sea food restaurant that had leaves inside it. It gives a whole new meaning to Autumn Leaves.

P.S. even if I do use a tuner I only tune to it's A and then tune all the other strings and octaves to it. I'm really not sold on setting the individual strings with a tuner.

Ric
 

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