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Gas'n for a Fender P

I've never been attracted to the Fender Precision. I have always liked the Jazz, but never the Precision. One day I woke up and had bad GAS for a P bass. Who knows what brings these feelings to bass players just outta nowhere.

Is there a big difference in American, Japanese, and Mexican P basses? Is the difference something you couldn't fix at a later date with some upgrades?
Are the woods the same?

My style: Finger pick only. Jazz, funk, r&b, motown, and blues. Ampeg SVT-CL amp. Flatwound strings.
 
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The P-bass GAS is inevitable, it's just a matter of time.

In the case of the P-bass, if you have the option to go American then you should definitely do that. You can make an MIM or MIJ sound like an MIA, but if you are one who appreciates excellent build quality, fit and finish, then the MIA is totally worth it. The finish is better, the bridge is nicer, the pickup on the MIA is a custom shop, the body is made out of fewer chunks of wood so it resonates better (and looks much better through the finish), the fingerboard has rolled edges, there are some small details like the string spreader and saddles being cast rather than stamped, the neck has graphite reinforcement for added durability (even Billy Sheehan couldn't snap a P-bass neck!), the fret dressing is done better, and probably a few more details I'm forgetting.

If you are simply GASing for the tone and nothing more, then go for a used MIM and have a blast! (maybe just upgrade the pickup if you desire), however, if you want to own the icon then go for the American, no doubt.

Also, don't forget that tortoise shell pickguards improve your tone by 180%
 
I've never been attracted to the Fender Precision. I have always liked the Jazz, but never the Precision. One day I woke up and had bad GAS for a P bass. Who knows what brings these feelings to bass players just outta nowhere.

Is there a big difference in American, Japanese, and Mexican P basses? Is the difference something you couldn't fix at a later date with some upgrades?
Are the woods the same?

My style: Finger pick only. Jazz, funk, r&b, motown, and blues. Ampeg SVT-CL amp. Flatwound strings.
A Fender P is perfect for what you play. I thought I was a Jazz only guy myself. Then I found I would solo the neck pup 100% of the time I would play. Then, I got a P bass and was like "dude, this is the sound I'd always wanted on a jazz."

Do it, you won't regret it.
 
I've never been attracted to the Fender Precision. I have always liked the Jazz, but never the Precision. One day I woke up and had bad GAS for a P bass. Who knows what brings these feelings to bass players just outta nowhere.

Is there a big difference in American, Japanese, and Mexican P basses? Is the difference something you couldn't fix at a later date with some upgrades?
Are the woods the same?

My style: Finger pick only. Jazz, funk, r&b, motown, and blues. Ampeg SVT-CL amp. Flatwound strings.
Here you go.....these are really nice and have a great neck.

Ive always plays a 90's Stingray or my Jazz, but at 12lbs the Jazz was getting to heavy and me to old, so much like you I started keeping my eye out for a P bass. I bought one of these new from GC a year ago and it has been my number 1 ever since. For Sale - 2014 Fender USA Nitro Satin Series Precision Bass
 
It all depends on how much time and $ you want to drop on finding "the one". Spend more, get a more consistent build quality wasting less time; spend less, get a less consistent build quality and spend more time finding one that does it for you. In quality from top-to-bottom: MIA, MIJ, MIM. Now, I have played some MIM and MIJ basses that definitely give their USA counterparts a run for their money but it took time and patience to find them. I ended up dropping some coin on a G&L LB-100 (profile pic), and couldn't be happier.

TL;DR - You have three options: Find Quality, Find Fast, or Find Cheap; Pick two.
 
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It all depends on how much time and $ you want to drop on finding "the one". Spend more, get a more consistent build quality wasting less time; spend less, get a less consistent build quality and spend more time finding one that does it for you. In quality from top-to-bottom: MIA, MIJ, MIM. Now, I have played some MIM and MIJ basses that definitely give their USA counterparts a run for their money but it took time and patience to find them. I ended up dropping some coin on a G&L LB-100 (profile pic), and couldn't be happier.

TL;DR - You have three options: Find Quality, Find Fast, or Find Cheap; Pick two.
This is sound advice....Fenders are known for inconsistencies, but when you find good one, it's hard to beat and will be a lifer. I think because the P bass is such a simple instrument, variations in weight, neck profile, pickups, finish, etc, can add up to a noticeable difference in tone. There is no fancy pre-amp to hide behind:)
 
I've never been attracted to the Fender Precision. I have always liked the Jazz, but never the Precision. One day I woke up and had bad GAS for a P bass. Who knows what brings these feelings to bass players just outta nowhere.

Is there a big difference in American, Japanese, and Mexican P basses? Is the difference something you couldn't fix at a later date with some upgrades?
Are the woods the same?

My style: Finger pick only. Jazz, funk, r&b, motown, and blues. Ampeg SVT-CL amp. Flatwound strings.

American basses have a bit more attention to detail than MIMs, but in my opinion it's not that noticeable all the time. There will be lots of MIMs that are built almost as good if you look around for them. Japanese Fenders are probably somewhere in the middle between Mexican and American to same-as-American quality depending on when they were made.

An American Fender Standard does have features that are arguably "better" than what MIMs typically offer. That would be the posiflex rods that strengthen the neck, lightweight tuners to combat neck-dive, and Fender custom shop pickups. They also have a high-mass bridge and string-through body, which are upgrades for some people but not upgrades for others. The truss rod is at the heel on American basses, and on the headstock on most of the Mexican basses (some Mexican basses have a heel-access truss rod).

I say all that because you won't get a Mexican Standard Fender to be exactly like an American one just with upgrades. You can get it close but not exactly. You can't change where the truss rod access point is located, or put posiflex rods in your neck. Drilling for a string-through bridge is inadvisable.

That being said, the Mexican line is pretty great anymore. They're good quality and pretty much everything you'd need in a bass if you make sure to inspect it first, and get it set up well. American Fenders used to have better wood but now it seems people are finding both the Mexican and American Fenders are using two or three piece bodies, and neither have a real bone nut.

On Mexican Standard basses they actually use an older American Standard design for their pickups, and they use a bridge and tuners from older American Fender designs as well. You can easily spend a few hundred bucks to upgrade the bridge, tuners, and pickup to get something pretty stellar. You can still get a high mass top-loading bridge, lightweight tuners, and but custom-shop pickups. For modding, a Mexican Fender is pretty good.

If you'd like something inbetween a American standard and a Mexican standard I'd suggest the Classic 50s or Road Worn P bass, or shop around for an American Special which is about Road Worn/Classic 50s quality if not a bit more.

Anyway, don't let fanboyism turn you away from either one. Try them out. Fender does a great job of offering a good instrument at any price you can afford.

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If you are willing to get something that doesn't have Fender on the headstock I'd suggest G&L. G&L is a Leo Fender company.

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Those LB100s are incredible. You get a Plek job (makes frets very even, no fret buzz), a bone nut, and a special bridge that really makes the wood resonate. They also have really nice electronics, and lightweight tuners. The pickup is designed by Paul Gagon who worked at Fender and took apart every pickup they ever made. They're super nice. They can be had for like 900 used, but if you order a new one you can tell G&L to make it with almost any style of neck you could want. G&L is run kinda like Fender Co. was in the 60s I've heard. All custom orders, and very high quality.
 
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The best one I've found is MIJ. The other comments are correct though, the electronics and hardware are not as good on MIM or MIJ as MIA. Also, basswood is common among the Japanese basses, which isn't as nice as Alder IMO.

<---- '62 reissue Japanese P, with American custom electronics, and Alder body. I can say for sure this one sounds and feels better than the 5-6 MIA Ps I have played (after I fixed the neckdive with hipshot ultralights).
 
I've always loved the Precision profile. Never cared for the Jazz; to me the Jazz looks like a Precision that is seven months pregnant.

Somebody more knowledgable about these things than I am needs to chip in with caveats about quality date ranges; e. g., post-2008 being really good for both MIA and MIM, 1990's being pretty dicey for MIM, etc.
 
I've always loved the Precision profile. Never cared for the Jazz; to me the Jazz looks like a Precision that is seven months pregnant.

Somebody more knowledgable about these things than I am needs to chip in with caveats about quality date ranges; e. g., post-2008 being really good for both MIA and MIM, 1990's being pretty dicey for MIM, etc.

I think the 90s is what makes a lot of people turn their nose up at MIMs. Anymore they're pretty nice though.

I don't remember MIA Fenders ever having problems but I started playing bass in the 90s and never picked up anything older than that from Fender.
 
I've never been attracted to the Fender Precision. I have always liked the Jazz, but never the Precision. One day I woke up and had bad GAS for a P bass. Who knows what brings these feelings to bass players just outta nowhere.

Is there a big difference in American, Japanese, and Mexican P basses? Is the difference something you couldn't fix at a later date with some upgrades?
Are the woods the same?

My style: Finger pick only. Jazz, funk, r&b, motown, and blues. Ampeg SVT-CL amp. Flatwound strings.
I ordered mine from the Fender ADE web site. Just something you may want to consider. It was a little more $ but I finally got my Lake Placid Blue American P!

I am 100% satisfied with the bass in every respect. I couldn't be happier.

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Agreed, the 2008 and up are consistently great quality. Hardware and electronics are great too(especially the last few years with the CS 60's pickup). With MIA you get a finished product that doesn't need upgrading. MIM are less consistent in terms of quality control. That said the 50's Classic(or Road Worn) are excellent instruments and one of the best deals around on the used market.
 
Ok, I've been researching these Fender Precision basses, and I have a few questions. I have found that there are several different kinds of woods these basses were made from over the years. Alder, Ash, Popular, Walnut, Basswood, and Agathis. Also 2 different kinds of fretboard wood, being rosewood and Maple. My question, is there any way to determine the type of body wood from the serial number? Another question, is there a difference in sound between a maple and rosewood fretboard?
I do know that Agathis and Basswood are the cheap basses, i.e. the Squiers and some Mexican/Japanese.
 
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Sea Foam Pearl color
Alder body with urethane finish
Synthetic bone nut
Maple fingerboard
Black neck binding
Black block inlays
Chrome hardware
3-Ply parchment pickguard
Fender high mass bass bridge
Standard open gear tuning machines
Passive Fender Precision split single-coil w/ passive Jazz Bass noiseless pickup in the bridge position
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Go to the store and try out every Precision bass they have. Pay no attention to what's written on the headstock. Find the sound and feel that you like. Only then should you pay attention to which of Fender's plants produced it.

That's how I ended up with a Fender 50's Precision as my primary, and a Fender American Precision as its backup.
 
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