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Geddy Lee Sansamp Pedal!

#941
dannybuoy said:
Does anyone not have their tight switch in?

Even the suggested Geddy setting in the manual has it switched in, and I can't get a decent sound out of it with the tight switched off! Although I can imagine it being better suited to a lower output bass than my BB1025X.
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I mostly run the mix knob all clock wise to the drive side when having the tight switch off. Plenty of low end there
 
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#942
The tight switch also seems to increase the attack & tighten up the overall sound. I heard it was to help emulate Geddy’s really aggressive attack on the strings. I love what it does to the sound. I prefer the sound of the YYZ with the tight switch engaged over the 2112.

The 2112 does have some more flexible connections that are great if you need them but in my use case I don’t.
 
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#943
hbabels said:
The tight switch also seems to increase the attack & tighten up the overall sound. I heard it was to help emulate Geddy’s really aggressive attack on the strings. I love what it does to the sound. I prefer the sound of the YYZ with the tight switch engaged over the 2112.

The 2112 does have some more flexible connections that are great if you need them but in my use case I don’t.
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Glad to hear that about the YYZ over the 2112. I pretty much use it to pinpoint my metallic attack on the drive side and use less bass now that I learned to balance it with the clean side for both lowend and highmid/treble bite.

That gets fed into my Oxford which provides grunt just below those higher frequencies, and can also add bass to compensate. I like the YYZ more now because of how useful it is at getting attack.
 
#953
cataract said:
I was planning on buying a YYZ pedal but a friend let me borrow his RBI the other day and I’m in love— anyone have any thoughts on how they compare?
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Well Geddy was using and RBI and an RPM in tandem before his signature rack unit so they’re in the same family of tone as far as drive sounds but the Geddy pedal and rack units have a distinctive voicing. Instead of a blend of your raw bass and the drive section you get an EQ d deep cleanish amp sound to blend with a gritty to overdriven sound.
 
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#954
Here is my story with the pedal :

I am fan of parallel processing.
Before the YYZ :

My first set up was :
Boss LS2 [ Signal clean + Signal affected by Behringer BDI 21 ( clone of tech 21 BDDI ) ] into Tech 21 Leeds.
But too much harsh treble from BDI 21 clank into Leeds Clink

Second setup was
BOSS LS2 [ Signal clean + Signal affected by Behringer BDI 21] into BOSS LS2 [ Signal clean + signal affected by Tech 21 Leeds and eventually an Electro Harmonix OD glove before to have more gain ]
It was better but took a lot of pedals spaces

I waited so long to receive the YYZ that I ordered a Electro Harmonix Parallel 3 channels pedals.
Received the 2 pedals same week

My last setup was :
Parallel mixer composed of mixes of
- Signal clean
- Behringer BDI 21 in parallel
- Additionnal YYZ full drive channel in parallel to add drive to the tone.

It was COOL to keep and mix those 3 tones but I found I was using the YZZ in a "degraded" mode only..

This morning I wake up and put the YYZ after the parallel mixer.
AND MAN ( ans woman).
Why did I do what I did ?!
OBVIOUSLY it works with a little bit of deep channel.
My obsession with parallel processing was because I always feared to lost the high mid/treble clank of the BDI 21 in favor of some drive ( or to have harsh trebles like in config 1 ) And since the deep channel is not a CLEAN channel and is turning down the highs.. But the drive channel seems to be magic. It clanks ans drives without clinking ans harshing ( Leeds I talk to you )

YES THE YYZ is now my fav pedal
I managed to configured it to be off-turnable if I want some deep funk and clean tone without losing bass or high mid , only the drrrrrrive.
And now since a channel of my parallel mixer is available I can put an OD Glove on it to have my tone + parallel drive ( à la Tim Commerford) feeding the YYZ


And also I never found the Leeds working like I want with my Modulus Flea Bass but YZZ does.
And works SURE with Rick or Jazz

COOOOOOOOOOOL pedal
( And yes my pedalboard is a little suburb since I have also two compressors and enveloppe filter and flanger and clean boost and fuzz ( IN PARALLEL) )
 
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#955
hbabels said:
Well Geddy was using and RBI and an RPM in tandem before his signature rack unit so they’re in the same family of tone as far as drive sounds but the Geddy pedal and rack units have a distinctive voicing. Instead of a blend of your raw bass and the drive section you get an EQ d deep cleanish amp sound to blend with a gritty to overdriven sound.
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With the 2212 you also have a third sound to blend in, the clean "DI" sound via the blend control in the Drive section.This is the holy trinity used by Geddy, Squire, Entwistle and others...
 
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I'm really digging this thing. If you play it right it really does have that elusive Geddy sound. When I was 14 I would have been beside myself to achieve this. I monkey with it every evening, but right now I'm running mine:

Master: a little above unity gain
Low: noon
High: a hair past noon
Drive: a hair before noon
Mix: a hair before noon
Mid: totally dimed

I don't really know any Rush songs anymore, but I still remember a bit of that jam in the middle of Tom Sawyer. It has that signature Geddy punch and growl. Just perfect.

I have yet to see how this fares in the mix with my band...
 
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