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Genz Benz Shuttle 9.0 Appreciation Thread
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Just picked up a Shuttle 9. Wow! The EQ on this thing is money. Finally, an amp I like with both my SR5 and my J bass.
Not to mention the balls this thing has. Glad I pulled the trigger.
Not to mention the balls this thing has. Glad I pulled the trigger.
Just picked up a Shuttle 9. Wow! The EQ on this thing is money. Finally, an amp I like with both my SR5 and my J bass.
Not to mention the balls this thing has. Glad I pulled the trigger.
This is inconsistent with the views of Kenny G's bass player, but consistent with mine, so you're good.
Thanks Fretno! I just received my red pointer knobs from Spiratronics and they're cool
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Sweet !
I've now owned a shuttle 9.0 for 10 days. At the same time, I purchased this LDS 12/6 nEarful from jxbass: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f127/fs-lds-12-6-3012lf-faital-mid-754392/ I've been searching for a one cab solution to handle practice, small/medium gigs that won't break the back. Preferably an 8ohm 112 that I could pair with a 112 no tweeter cab I've already got. I think I've found it.
Up until today it was by myself practice in the basement. Today I spent 5 hours rehearsal with what was supposed to be a blues band with two electric guitars and drums. It's turned into more of a blues/rock/dance band.
At first I was afraid this pairing was too clean. With a fender jazz both p/u's full I had the gain and the volume pretty much maxed without much gain light action. The limit light blinks at about 11-12 o'clock master volume. In the basement, it didn't seem particularly loud. Paired with my other 112 cab, it really seemed to pump. AB'd with the 112, it sounded good with either cab, with the LDS having an edge in clarity and bite. But the 112 had a softer, less harsh sound when playing solo.
Today, with just the LDS, this rig kicked major tail. The bass cut through but at the same time really pounded on the bottom. Never farted. My old trace 115/210 pairing would have been farting low E-G at this volume. At triple the weight.
Although in the basement I EQ'd some and played with the shape switches, it was unnecessary with the band. I started with everything flat and never felt the need to tweak. On some songs that needed long sustaining notes I used the low boost but it was almost too much. Almost. The cab never flinched. Even when digging in with a pick.
I'm not sure if this is a shuttle review or an LDS review, or both, but wow. That's about all I can say about that.
Oh yeah--easy load in and out. I'm not sure of a situation where I would need the extra 112, because at that volume I might as well bring the NV215. I haven't got a chance to try the TF550b with this cab or the shuttle with the NV. It should be interesting to AB the amps.
Up until today it was by myself practice in the basement. Today I spent 5 hours rehearsal with what was supposed to be a blues band with two electric guitars and drums. It's turned into more of a blues/rock/dance band.
At first I was afraid this pairing was too clean. With a fender jazz both p/u's full I had the gain and the volume pretty much maxed without much gain light action. The limit light blinks at about 11-12 o'clock master volume. In the basement, it didn't seem particularly loud. Paired with my other 112 cab, it really seemed to pump. AB'd with the 112, it sounded good with either cab, with the LDS having an edge in clarity and bite. But the 112 had a softer, less harsh sound when playing solo.
Today, with just the LDS, this rig kicked major tail. The bass cut through but at the same time really pounded on the bottom. Never farted. My old trace 115/210 pairing would have been farting low E-G at this volume. At triple the weight.
Although in the basement I EQ'd some and played with the shape switches, it was unnecessary with the band. I started with everything flat and never felt the need to tweak. On some songs that needed long sustaining notes I used the low boost but it was almost too much. Almost. The cab never flinched. Even when digging in with a pick.
I'm not sure if this is a shuttle review or an LDS review, or both, but wow. That's about all I can say about that.
Oh yeah--easy load in and out. I'm not sure of a situation where I would need the extra 112, because at that volume I might as well bring the NV215. I haven't got a chance to try the TF550b with this cab or the shuttle with the NV. It should be interesting to AB the amps.
Glad to hear that it's working out. That LDS 12/6 is a beautiful cab and the S9 is a great amp. You should hear that 12/6 with a Streamliner!
They seem to be made for each other.
Glad to hear that it's working out. That LDS 12/6 is a beautiful cab and the S9 is a great amp. You should hear that 12/6 with a Streamliner!
Get thee behind me!
I do not need another amp.
I do not need another amp.
I do not need another amp.
I do not need another amp.
I do not need another amp.
I do not need another amp.
I do not need another amp.
I do not need another amp.
Repeat until GAS subsides.
Now, now. You can't think that way. If there were no more gas I'd still have the 12/6 and you wouldn't
I love my Shuttle 9.0 no doubt but I also like my Streamliner 900. They are just two different animals. Your welcome to try mine out any time. Not trying to fuel GAS here.
Now, now. You can't think that way. If there were no more gas I'd still have the 12/6 and you wouldn't
That thunderchild must really be something for you to part with this cab.
I will most certainly take you up on that. I'm looking at the calendar now trying to figure out when we can get together.
I would have kept it if it were just the Thunderchild 12 and LDS but I have a Thunderchild 15 coming and it's just too many cabs for me. I also have a new Rob Allen in the works and something had to go.
Just posting what was to me a rather unexpected result with this amp.
We did a St Patty's Day gig on an outdoor stage, and I took the 9 and a Schroeder 1212BMF. I had previously not been using this combination and presumed everything would sound fine set mostly flat. However, the stage sound was way thin in the lower mids, which were actually slightly boosted on the amp; and that threw me.
Anyhow, I was wrestling with this over the past few weeks, and blaming the sound on the cab.
Turns out I may not have understood the parametric controls.
Sunday night while messing with it, I set the parametric mid at about 12 o'clock, which is roughly 1kHz I'm guessing), and set the gain down to about 9 o'clock to cut those frequencies. Lo and behold all kinds of lower mids suddenly appeared in the cab. In fact to the point that I would not accuse the cab of being low end shy at all.
OK, it shouldn't have taken me so long to dial that in; but, in my defense, I had no idea that cutting the 1 kHz range would actually boost the lower mids.
So, long story short, this is actually a pretty flexible amp, but learning the tone manipulation is not necessarily straightforward and takes a bit of work.
Play on.
We did a St Patty's Day gig on an outdoor stage, and I took the 9 and a Schroeder 1212BMF. I had previously not been using this combination and presumed everything would sound fine set mostly flat. However, the stage sound was way thin in the lower mids, which were actually slightly boosted on the amp; and that threw me.
Anyhow, I was wrestling with this over the past few weeks, and blaming the sound on the cab.
Turns out I may not have understood the parametric controls.
Sunday night while messing with it, I set the parametric mid at about 12 o'clock, which is roughly 1kHz I'm guessing), and set the gain down to about 9 o'clock to cut those frequencies. Lo and behold all kinds of lower mids suddenly appeared in the cab. In fact to the point that I would not accuse the cab of being low end shy at all.
OK, it shouldn't have taken me so long to dial that in; but, in my defense, I had no idea that cutting the 1 kHz range would actually boost the lower mids.
So, long story short, this is actually a pretty flexible amp, but learning the tone manipulation is not necessarily straightforward and takes a bit of work.
Play on.
I've hardly used the para on this amp at all, but your story may inspire me to. I usually cut a bit around 1.2k when I record direct to my interface. Since the 9.0 with only a bit of low boost sounds very much like my instrument it'd make since that I would enjoy some cut around 1.2k on the 9.0 as well. Gonna try it tomorrow.
I set the frequency at about 2:00 and cut a bit when using my Avatar 3 way TB153 cabinet. With that cut and everything else flat, it works great with a Pbass.
I think at noon, the mid frequency is closer to 650 or 700. I believe it starts at 150hz and each line is in increments of 100hz.
I'm sure that adjustment you made was the right one for the Schro cab which is quite mid forward even with the newer design.
I'm very impressed with the power of the EQ on the 9.0. A few small adjustments can really make a difference. It can also still be musical at what some might consider extreme settings.
Well, there are 11 generic marks; and for this control, they go from 0.15 kHz to 2.0 kHz. Noon is halfway, which I was just approximating at 1 kHz; but, who really knows? I mean is the taper completely linear etc etc. Not really the point of the post.
The surprising thing to me was that the cut at this frequency setting is accompanied by an apparent boost somewhere, again guesstimating, in the 200 Hz'ish area. Whatever it is, its quite distinct and just what this cab needed. That was my point. I'm not just hearing the cut going on.
Think we agree. With the proper EQ, that "mid-forward" character/reputation thing is somewhat moot; since I'm left with a nice balanced output, even weighted to the lower mids as I like it, with plenty of power. Oh and the whole rig weighs in at just over 40 pounds. Yay.
Ok I just got back from a really loud rehearsal with a new band and gotta gush a bit. This is my first time working in a power trio format. I recently got an Avatar TB153 ("nearful" type) cabinet and have been playing around a bit getting just the right push. This is a very mid-present cabinet and my P5 with roundwound strings can get a little clanky with the tone up and a little muffled with it down. Today I tried a new approach and used the mid scoop button with a generous low mid boost on the Shuttle 9.0 (freq at 8-9:00 and level to 3:00) and it all fell into place. I had great sparkle and clarity with the treble flat and a big ol' booty behind it - great stuff.
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