Bass and Beyond might. http://www.bassandbeyond.com/ Don't go by the online inventory. I got my 6.0 there; they had two of the 6's in stock eventhough they didn't show it online. Email or call.
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Genz-Benz Shuttle Megathread: Part II
- Thread starter Kelly Lee
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Bass and Beyond might. http://www.bassandbeyond.com/ Don't go by the online inventory. I got my 6.0 there; they had two of the 6's in stock eventhough they didn't show it online. Email or call.
I've had my STL3.0-10T since last Thursday.
I've used it twice in our sanctuary which seats around 400. It covered the room nicely, with volume to spare with my G&L L2500. No problem with the low B.
My regular amp is the Genz Benz ML200-210T.
The Shuttle will be my portable gigging amp from home.
I also used it for our sunrise service by the bay outside for around 50 people and no prob there either.
I'm sure as others will attest to the 6.0 will really kick in any venue but with a $400 difference, and the venues I play, the 3.0 was a slam dunk. For large settings an extension cab would be a nice addition, but don't have the need at this point.
I'd also like to say a word about the GB customer service. I am blind and called them and asked if it might be possible to send me a text file of the manual so that my speech system I use for my computer, could read the manual for me. In a half hour, I had a manual I could read on my own without asking someone else's help.
Customer Service: 100%
HTH
Larry
I've used it twice in our sanctuary which seats around 400. It covered the room nicely, with volume to spare with my G&L L2500. No problem with the low B.
My regular amp is the Genz Benz ML200-210T.
The Shuttle will be my portable gigging amp from home.
I also used it for our sunrise service by the bay outside for around 50 people and no prob there either.
I'm sure as others will attest to the 6.0 will really kick in any venue but with a $400 difference, and the venues I play, the 3.0 was a slam dunk. For large settings an extension cab would be a nice addition, but don't have the need at this point.
I'd also like to say a word about the GB customer service. I am blind and called them and asked if it might be possible to send me a text file of the manual so that my speech system I use for my computer, could read the manual for me. In a half hour, I had a manual I could read on my own without asking someone else's help.
Customer Service: 100%
HTH
Larry
Dennis (fretlessboy) has a packing strap connecting the two side handles, just long enough so that it will hang down behind the cab. He uses that to pull the cab. I'm going to look into something like that myself ...
Cheers
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run a packing strap through the handles then tilt back and roll. $3 (us) fix of handle issue. I use a 1 inch with "D" ring closure...works like a charm
oops.... I missed your post Liam
Now that I have covers, I am gonna look for a strap with the plastic buckle to speed up cove removal. HMMMMM acording to FedEx website, 212 cover number 2 should be here today.
oops.... I missed your post Liam
Now that I have covers, I am gonna look for a strap with the plastic buckle to speed up cove removal. HMMMMM acording to FedEx website, 212 cover number 2 should be here today.
Any idea on how much power the shuttle 3.0 uses? I ask as I've been looking for some way of playing bass when car camping with friends. I thought about getting an ABG but the volume just isn't there to compete with drums, acoustic guitar and trombone. If the current draw of the 3.0 is low enough it just might work.
Dave
Dave
Opinions wanted...
I'm debating buying a used GBE 600 vs. a new Shuttle 6.0.
I'm driving (2) 8 ohm Aguilar GS112's, rated 300 watts each. They are not very efficient and my current 250 watt @ 4 ohm amp is woefully underpowered, supplying only 125 watts per speaker. I believe with enough power the Aggies should be adequate for medium sized clubs, hence the upgrade.
Has anyone heard these two heads side by side? It's hard to believe the little Shuttle could crank like the GBE ... but if it does that's my preference. I'd like to keep the weight down.
If you've heard them, is the sound nearly the same when pushed? How do the switching mode power supplies used in the Shuttle and other small form factor amps do with typical club power which is often inadequate? Thanks, David
I'm debating buying a used GBE 600 vs. a new Shuttle 6.0.
I'm driving (2) 8 ohm Aguilar GS112's, rated 300 watts each. They are not very efficient and my current 250 watt @ 4 ohm amp is woefully underpowered, supplying only 125 watts per speaker. I believe with enough power the Aggies should be adequate for medium sized clubs, hence the upgrade.
Has anyone heard these two heads side by side? It's hard to believe the little Shuttle could crank like the GBE ... but if it does that's my preference. I'd like to keep the weight down.
If you've heard them, is the sound nearly the same when pushed? How do the switching mode power supplies used in the Shuttle and other small form factor amps do with typical club power which is often inadequate? Thanks, David
The Shuttle puts out more power than the GBE 600, believe it or not.
There are just a few things that might make you choose a GBE600:
1) 2 ohm stable. It puts out about the same at 2 ohms as the 6.0 does at 4 ... so if you wanted to add a 3rd 8 ohm cab, you'd be running the GBE600 at 2.67 ohms, producing about 550 watts of very conservatively rated power.
2) Two channels, FET and tube pre, blendable and footswitchable.
3) The LF, Mid scoop and HF filters are tunable on the GBE600, versus being non-adjustable on the 6.0.
Balance those versus the advantages of the 6.0:
1) More power at 4 ohms.
2) Weighs about 22 pounds less!
I love my GBE600 ... I'm mostly a lightweight gear kind of guy, but the 600 won me over. That said, I gig with the NeoPak or the Shuttle 3.0 a lot more. If the GBE600 weighed about 15 pounds or so, though, I'd be using it more than anything else.
Cheers
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Be sure to use an inverter that uses a sine wave type input, the PWM generated sine waves are plenty good. Average power draw is around 100 watts when playing at a moderately loud volume (just hitting the output limit light).
The SMPS is very stable on poor input power regulation situations.
Cool. That should get me at least 10 hours on a 115 AH deep cycle battery.
Thanks,
Dave
Just got my Arriba AC-160 case. Great fit for the shuttle 3.0 10t combo.
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CHEAP! $23 plus shipping from Pro Sound and Lighting on ebay.
The auction said "used", but it wasn't, it was still sealed in the plastic. I think they say used, just to get around MAP pricing "minimum advertised price".
Johnny
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CHEAP! $23 plus shipping from Pro Sound and Lighting on ebay.
The auction said "used", but it wasn't, it was still sealed in the plastic. I think they say used, just to get around MAP pricing "minimum advertised price".
Johnny
Man I dont know if this helps me or makes me more confused lol. Thing is, I really dont use the tone shaping or the FET hardly if at all on my 600. It does sound sooooooo good though (esp. through my NEO 212). But if the 6.0 is as you all say, and is a great fit with the 212, I think I may be ordering tomorrow. Do you guys think it can be a good R&B type amp?
YES!
I use my Neo-pak on a Motown set with a group two weeks ago. Warmed it up just enough with the tube gain, turned my tweeters way down, rolled off some highs, and it was old school thumpy.
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EDIT: I also use it every Sunday in a gospel setting. Urban, shout, R&B, hip-hop, etc.
For that I boost lows to around 2-3, mid-frequency around 11, mids at 1, highs around 1, and sometimes I engage the LF boost. This produces a very BIG, thick bottom that is on the modern side. It's great for gospel, slap, etc. Works like a champ.
For that I boost lows to around 2-3, mid-frequency around 11, mids at 1, highs around 1, and sometimes I engage the LF boost. This produces a very BIG, thick bottom that is on the modern side. It's great for gospel, slap, etc. Works like a champ.
Yup. The main band I play with at the moment is an RnB band and the shuttle 6.0 kills for it. Even if yoru bass is pretty anti-smooth, between your onboard and the shuttle, you'll get a great sound.
That's what I'm thinking. The Neo-pak is the predecessor to the Shuttle 6.0. It doesn't have as much power as the Shuttle, but it STILL gets it done with ease. For that motown thing I mentioned, I was outside with the Neo-pak pushing the 212/112 rig, and it was slamming. Light output clipping which gave it a warm, round tone. I also use this rig in church every Sunday, where or course I don't turn up nearly as loud. It sounds fabulous, and the height of the 212/112 stacked lets me hear myself very easily without having to turn up and drown everyone else out. Wonderful, wonderful setup.Yup. The main band I play with at the moment is an RnB band and the shuttle 6.0 kills for it. Even if yoru bass is pretty anti-smooth, between your onboard and the shuttle, you'll get a great sound.
