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Thanks. I also have the feeling it would work well with EUB, rounding out the bottom,
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Genz Benz Streamliner Part 3!!!!
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Thanks. I also have the feeling it would work well with EUB, rounding out the bottom,
Aussie Mark
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- Oct 26, 2002
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My Streamliner 900 arrived from the US yesterday. Ok, here's my short review after 2 hours with headphones last night (the missus was having a catch up marathon on the Tivo, and the kids were in bed). Actually, headphones were probably the ideal introduction to this head - the Streamliner sounds lovely and tubey warm like a top quality studio preamp, such as an Avalon, but with the added ability to dial in as much grit as you like with the gain and preamp controls. And the EQ is dead easy to tinker with, since it's just bass/mid/treble - no bright or presence switches, no parametric ********, no low boost buttons etc. No bells and whistles, as they are simply not needed to get a good tone out of this baby! I really like it when an amp has less controls than my Big Al SSS.
I can make this sound like a B-15 or an overdriven SVT by merely adjusting two or three knobs. I can't wait to open up this 900 watt beast into a big cab at rehearsal or a gig soon.
It has a 1/4" headphone out, a tuner out, and an aux in, so you can practice with decent headphones and your mp3 player, and be able to control the volume independently - use the preamp volume to control the overall bass volume level, and the master volume to set the mp3 player at a suitable volume.
And, the front panel looks very cool when the tubes are warmed up - the three tubes sit right behind the see through part of the panel.
I can make this sound like a B-15 or an overdriven SVT by merely adjusting two or three knobs. I can't wait to open up this 900 watt beast into a big cab at rehearsal or a gig soon.
It has a 1/4" headphone out, a tuner out, and an aux in, so you can practice with decent headphones and your mp3 player, and be able to control the volume independently - use the preamp volume to control the overall bass volume level, and the master volume to set the mp3 player at a suitable volume.
And, the front panel looks very cool when the tubes are warmed up - the three tubes sit right behind the see through part of the panel.
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- Sep 23, 2004
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I'd play the Shuttle for DB in a heartbeat. I majored in Jazz Performance on DB and played with many jazz "stalwarts" back in the 80's and 90's. I've done quite a bit of tech back up for some big lions in Jazz DB...including Ron Carter.
I apologize if this seems like "name dropping"...I just want to give a reference.
So....the Shuttle: I like this for DB because the mid eq network lets you identify that frequency that needs to be relieved or boosted to get you to where you want to be.
We're very well known for our acoustic amps too. I often get DB players asking if they should play an acoustic amp. Well....they DO sound great when you play by yourself. When you're with a hard hitting "be-bop" drummer though, you want the backbone that will get you to cut through. The Shuttle also lets you dial in the mid-frequency that will help you.
I hope this makes sense.
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This thing is more hyped than the freaking Iphone ! Just say "warm" its all out bananas in here. Are there really no other "warm" class D amps that everyone is gassing for this bad boy? Looking forward to the test drive & if anyone can post reviews vs. other class D amps that would be awesome.
I find with the Shuttle 9.0 I need to cut a little at 150 Hz to work with my Upright but prefer not to cut with my Electric.
With the Streamliner it seems to be a better compromise for doing both set flat.
Now that is with the Mid Scoop on using the 9.0. For some reason these days I'm liking a mid scooped sound more and more. Kind of stays out of the way of the guitar but I sure can still be heard and with either Genz amp, felt!
Also my P Basses (with their single coil pickups) are very mid heavy.
With the Streamliner it seems to be a better compromise for doing both set flat.
Now that is with the Mid Scoop on using the 9.0. For some reason these days I'm liking a mid scooped sound more and more. Kind of stays out of the way of the guitar but I sure can still be heard and with either Genz amp, felt!
Also my P Basses (with their single coil pickups) are very mid heavy.
AFAIK I'm on the top of the list for an SL600 from YOMS, so hopefully this delivery will bring some good news. I'm not knocking on Mike, as he's been great to work with, my GAS is just suffocating me.
The TC RH450 is warm as can be. I have one, but that was yesterday's hype and three part mega thread. This is today's hype. Buy now while supplies last.
The TC RH450 is warm as can be. I have one, but that was yesterday's hype and three part mega thread. This is today's hype. Buy now while supplies last.
Hmm, I like that TC... would be a great A\B test.
I have gone back to gigging my '62 RI J through an S9 into either a Schro BMF1212 or Berg NV610, depending on the gig. Agreed that passive J's are a bit low output; though that depends on pup height to some extent. When I was using an S6, I did have to use a small tube pre to get the input gain structure where I wanted it. I find the S9 to be whole different ball game. With the '62 RI, I am setting the input gain and pre-out around 1 o'clock and output at around 9 o'clock to 10 o'clock. Any more and I catch it from the sound guy or just blow everyone else off the stage.
Bit OT, but, honestly some of these "power" discussions with these more recent amps just seem academic to me. I mean, I can't even get close to using the S9 all the way up to what it can deliver at any gig I'm playing; and I'm predominantly playing rock level stuff. Who cares what the wattage is? The darn thing is way past what is needed. Wish I could just put those type of posts on ignore at this point. Is the DB750 more powerful? Who really cares? I would certainly never want to experience the difference. God willing, I'd like to have some hearing left 10 years down the road. From a musical point you pretty quickly get to where that is just some kind of excess. I mean if it makes a cat feel better about having 10x more than they will ever use, then go for it. I don't personally think that's much of a practical point with these amps any more. Being properly set in the mix doesn't care what's not being used above that. Just my <2c. GL2A.
I had one and got rid of it mostly due to poor customer support. Going from sonic memory, the TC was much more attenuated in the highs and woolier in the lows/low mids. The S900 is capable of less colored tones and has a much wider range of gain possibilities. The "tubetone" on the TC is not tubey compared to the S900. For features, the TC blows the S900 out of the water. Just depends on what you want. I'm happy enough that I'm buying a second GB amp (Shuttle 9.0), in no small part due to the attention to detail and customer service.
I thank each and every one of you guys for being honest and blunt........ and extremely helpful!!!!! Just glad to be here.
Got my sl900 the other day. Happy so far. Lots of power. Tried through headphones tonight, lots of detail. I think i need to sit with headphones for a bit to play and dial in and then switch to cabinet after I understand the details of the head better. VERY much like the non-harsh highs, thanks gb!
That is one interesting thing about the RH450 - it didn't seem to make that much difference between 8 and 4 ohm load.
I confess that my last two 8 ohm cabs are sitting underneath some other things and that I have not actually used the S9 at 8 ohms. So, I really should not comment one way or the other. Also with the S6, I never really used identical driver area with 4 vs 8; so, that was probably not a fair comparison either.
It seems like the MB Fusion from Gallien Krueger would possibly be worth comparing, but from what I've heard those still have the GK "SS" bite to them. Definitely a big step towards a warmer sound, but to my ear still unmistakably GK.
Through random chance I had a chance to A/B my SL 900 with a Markbass LMIII the day I got it. It seems to me that the MB stuff is considered to be warmer and, particularly with the VLE cranker, able to get a more old-school vibe. While I didn't have a ton of time, the MB did just that but couldn't touch the "cush" of the Streamliner, though the VLE went a long way toward warming it up.
+1 on all points. I tried an RH450 when I first started looking for a tubier amp and couldn't get what I was looking for out of it - it's still a bit gritty and digital for my taste. Definitely in the same neighborhood though. Ken's video comparison of these two is a great sampling of the differences/similarities.
That's exactly what I like about my Shuttles (6&9) for electric bass, the frequency range of the mid EQ which I've recently found myself using more than I thought I ever would depending on the room.
The only obstacle I have with the Streamliner is that there's only 3 selectable mid freqs rather than the full range of my Shuttles.
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