Genz Benz Streamliner Part 3!!!!

[deekay911]

Do you or anyone know the lead time to get one from him? Is it a couple weeks or does he have them in stock?

He isn't holding any stock right now as they are so new, but mine took about 10 days, and he says they are taking a week or so to come through for a new order.

 

[adivin]

I have the RH450 and love it. My settings seem to evolve over time. With 3 pre-sets you can lock and load though once you find your sound. I love not having to worry about the knobs moving during transport and having to dial them up again.

Still it's human nature to wonder what you are missing. I feel like the subject of a social experiment. It a conspiracy to make me buy stuff.

 

[Vic]

The RH450 is a cool amp.. Lots of great features. To me though it is Sooo tweak-able that it is harder to find those two or three sounds that you need easily. I'm sure they are there, but it is matter of getting to them easily.
That is what i am looking to in the Streamliner. It is "stream-lined" to the essentials with a user friendly interface..
On a gig that is what i want.. Instant sound..And not having to learn an interface to the tone control interface to get what i want. etc.
Just my opinion....

The "problem" is, I'm not talking about EQ. I'm talking about behavior and other tonal characteristics that are more architecture related. I have a feeling the SL900 will just be a "different animal" from the RH no matter what you do with the tone shaping.

 

[jlepre]

I was wondering how Genz production is keeping up with demand? I have one on order, and can't WAIT to get it

 

[svtb15]

I was not disagreeing with you..
From my experience, i was saying i thought the interface on the RH is not blow and go For me.. Folks can dial up a sound at home ( as many here do) messing with the Tube tone, the variable EQ slopes, etc then get to the gig and its different than what worked for them at home.
You know what im talking about.
Where the streamlined Streamliner is really nice and almost bare bones. Which i always have liked..
I didnt want to lead you to believe that i was emphasizing the EQ.. Just that the user interface and oh so many variable parameters on the Rh450 are cumbersome for my needs.

The "problem" is, I'm not talking about EQ. I'm talking about behavior and other tonal characteristics that are more architecture related. I have a feeling the SL900 will just be a "different animal" from the RH no matter what you do with the tone shaping.

 

[Michael Vee]

Other than price and power, are there any other differences between the 600 and 900? In reviewing the manuals, I don't see any.

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I think am probably still going to wait until some of this initial buying frenzy abates before I get one- probably in March or April.

 

[Adam Wright]

Just put some money down on the 900. The Friedland demo got me from the first few notes.

 

[Personatech]

Got the same call from Eddie but I'll have to move some gear before pulling the trigger. Missing the Jeff Genzler clinic too, dammit, as I already have plans for that evening.

The GB clinic is Thursday, Feb. 17, BTW.

I am in Raleigh NC and the boutique seller here is Indoor Storm. The owner of the place called me to let me know he just got two SL-900s in on Tuesday and I put one on hold with a credit card cuz I'm traveling. But will pick it up tomorrow! He as one left and will ship if anyone's interested. www.indoorstorm.com.

What is even cooler is that Jeff Genzler will actually be at Indoor Storm in Raleigh to give a clinic on the new products. I don't know how the owner pulled that off, but I will definitely be there to meet the man in person!

 

[svtb15]

I am going to be at the the Alleva Coppolo show in San Diego on Feb 12th.. Will be bringing my streamliner head.... not sure what cabs he will have there.. most likely his aggs.

 

[mambo4]

What kind of consideration does Genz Benz give to visual design?
I shared Ed's review video with my band mates and my drummer (graphics designer by trade, also a vintage gear entuisiast) came back with this comment:

It sounds great. Like, really great, for a modern piece.
FWIW—and this might be bit pretentious so bear with me—they just look so silly. No style whatsoever.
Ugly logos, ugly knobs, ugly type. The thing kind of looks like a DVD player, YMMV.

Of course my natural reaction is "Who cares how it looks?" But from a purely visual standpoint, He may be onto something.
Visually, the streamliner It doesn't quite "vibe" the way it sounds.
Personally I could care less, but I do think there is a chunk of potential buyers
who will weigh the visual impact of gear and may steer away form a streamliner for those reasons.

 

[KJung]

What kind of consideration does Genz Benz give to visual design?
I shared Ed's review video with my band mates and my drummer (graphics designer by trade, also a vintage gear entuisiast) came back with this comment:



Of course my natural reaction is "Who cares how it looks?" But from a purely visual standpoint, He may be onto something.
Visually, the streamliner It doesn't quite "vibe" the way it sounds.
Personally I could care less, but I do think there is a chunk of potential buyers
who will weigh the visual impact of gear and may steer away form a streamliner for those reasons.

Interesting. If you go back to the original thread (part 1), one of the things I mentioned and then got into a discussion with Roger (Hasbeen) about was the beautiful design of this head, and how the sort of art nouveau look really vibed well with the more vintage design goal. The 'streamliner' graphic, inspired by those early diesel locomotives of the 50's really works for me, and the name vibes great with the sort of 'simple feature set'.

I guess it is just like colors of a bass or whatever... aesthetics is personal. It is one of the best looking micro's I've seen... I totally dig the look and feel of the thing.

No big deal though, but interesting, since most have been raving about how good the thing looks.

 

[GRoberts]

Interesting. If you go back to the original thread (part 1), one of the things I mentioned and then got into a discussion with Roger (Hasbeen) about was the beautiful design of this head, and how the sort of art nouveau look really vibed well with the more vintage design goal. The 'streamliner' graphic, inspired by those early diesel locomotives of the 50's really works for me, and the name vibes great with the sort of 'simple feature set'.

I guess it is just like colors of a bass or whatever... aesthetics is personal. It is one of the best looking micro's I've seen... I totally dig the look and feel of the thing.

No big deal though, but interesting, since most have been raving about how good the thing looks.

+1! Looks GREAT to me. How are those comparison Sound clips coming along Ken? Hook your brothers up will ya?

 

[wateroftyne]

Hmm... beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I quite like it. The only bit I'm really not keen on is the use of the 'streamliner' font outside of the logo (for the knobs, etc). It dilutes the impact of the logo. I'f have used something more traditional. IMO, of course.

When you see some of the awful designs that pass for bass amps these days, I think they done good with this one.

 

[nostatic]

What kind of consideration does Genz Benz give to visual design?
I shared Ed's review video with my band mates and my drummer (graphics designer by trade, also a vintage gear entuisiast) came back with this comment:



Of course my natural reaction is "Who cares how it looks?" But from a purely visual standpoint, He may be onto something.
Visually, the streamliner It doesn't quite "vibe" the way it sounds.
Personally I could care less, but I do think there is a chunk of potential buyers
who will weigh the visual impact of gear and may steer away form a streamliner for those reasons.

Just because someone is a "graphic designer" that doesn't mean they necessarily have (good) taste or a sense of aesthetic. I've worked with plenty that didn't. Well, only for one job until they got dumped

Taste is up to the individual. Having seen the amp in person I like it a lot and think it cuts a nice path between "classic" and "modern." The only thing that might be considered cliche is the blue window but that is there to showcase the tubes as a point of market differentiation. SO I get why that design element is there. One nice thing is that GB actually listened to customer feedback and make the knobs easier to read from a distance. Giving a nod to function perhaps at some loss to form is appreciated in some instances.

 

[Blues Cat]

I love the way the amp looks. More glass would be cool too. Love the brushed aluminum finish.

The EF video sounds fantastic. I prefer the Stream 900 over the Shuttle flat.

The best part is the rounded and routed corners so it'll slide effortlessly into a tight gig bag. The smooth corners also keep the amp from wearing through the bag on the corners over time. Brilliant gentlemen.

 

[Top_Ten]

I have succumbed. Order placed with Ye Olde Music. I guess the wife will have to go without that desperately needed medical treatment for a bit longer!

 

[kobass]

To add to Ken's comments, I see the illuminated "tube window" as a "updated" nod/homage to the illuminated "Ampeg" logo on the classic B-15.

Purely IMO, of course.

 

[kesslari]

Another +1 to "IMO this is a good lookin' bit o' kit".

 

[Stephen]

I have succumbed. Order placed with Ye Olde Music. I guess the wife will have to go without that desperately needed medical treatment for a bit longer!

We are a sick bunch, aren't we

 

[KJung]

+1! Looks GREAT to me. How are those comparison Sound clips coming along Ken? Hook your brothers up will ya?

Here are links to a couple of clips (I had a separate thread set up).

Both are with my Nordy P and AE410. The first clip is a bit of a bright, clean take, and the second is a bit more fat setting, and comparison with the RH450. Both explore clean to slightly 'pushed' tones. Sounds killer to me!

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